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Wednesday, July 19th, 2006
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7:12a - Gardening Wank--I never thought I'd see the day!
Since I almost never update this journal--
Surfing the forums at Gardenweb, I came across Lisalj. http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0713392730448.html?74
Turns out that when she ordered from reputable rose vendor Roses Unlimited she odered a rose called 'Coral Carpet.' The vendor therefore send her the rose she ordered. Alas, Roses Unlimited forgot their special Vulcan mind melding and thus did not know, Lisalj actually wanted the rose "Coral Flower Carper.' Oops.
Well, the posters at garden web are pretty straightforward about it.
Lisa, I don't understand why you would think RU should send you another rose. You ordered the wrong rose, so the vendor is not responsible for replacing it. Next time check HelpMeFind.com for help with rose names. Google is not a reliable source in this regard.
Lisa, I know you are upset and disappointed, but this misunderstanding comes more from your assuming and lack of research than anything else. Type in "Coral Carpet" at HelpMeFind.com and you'll get the Ben Williams rose that they sold to you. So you see, RU did not send you a mis-marked rose and therefore while I'm sorry for your mistake I don't see that they owe you anything
Trospero seals the deal : In your own words: you ordered 'Coral Carpet', not 'Coral Flower Carpet'. You got what you asked for, so I don't think your mistake should be regarded as their problem. Sorry, but I disagree with your complaint.
Meanwhile, the OP has emailed the owners of the nursery demanding the rose she didn't order wanted. Roses Unlimited's response?
The pictures you sent was a rose that you thought you had ordered from Roses Unlimited. We have never carried the rose that you sent pictures.
The rose that you received was a Ben Williams rose that was Coral Carpet. We carry this variety as well as Hortico.
I do not feel it is our responsibility to do anything other than what we have done and that was to send the rose that you ordered. The rose that you wanted has a slightly different name and that is Coral Flower Carpet. We have never carried that rose. We are not even given in Combined Rose List as being a source for that rose. We list Coral Carpet as a medium pink and the date is 1997. The date of the rose that you sent pictures is not this date.
I do not feel we are responsibile that you ordered a rose from us and the date and name is completely different from the one that you sent pictures. I wish this had not happened for you as you wished something different from what you ordered. We did send the correct Coral Carpet and I can give you Ben Williams email to verify that you did receive the correct rose that you ordered from Roses Unlimited.
Sincerely,
Pat Henry
And---cue the soup! Lisalj shoots back.
It's just funny to me that the vast majority of people 100% list the Coral Carpet Rose that I wanted on the Google search That doesn't persuade some of you know it alls that maybe I had a right to expect that rose to come? - every other vendor for example that I checked and have previously successfully ordered from showed that same rose.
and in spite of that I am subjected to (not that I care)the verbal abuse and sarcasm here immplying that I probably should have guessed she would sell me some obscure and hideous form of that rose that almost no one knows,
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME THAT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD that she had an obscure version I have no problem with that and wanted to work it out as a substitute or a refund.No problem with either.
I think I am 100% in the right and was perfectly reasonable to expect the rose I finally ordered elsewhwere to complete my mass planting. Funny none of the other 10-20 vendors were confused....
It's a shame as wonderful as this list is and 99% of the participants are how a certain faction likes to pile on and be ugly when they don't even know what they are talking about.
I guess that's inherent in that type of individual. --Lisalj
It moves on from there to an argument over how to Google a rose bush and whether or not the rose vendor was rude to her or not. No internet argument would be complete without the
Goodbye Cruel Internets! follow up.
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1:11p - Next chapter and verse, same as the first....
It's my first report, OMG DUN BE MEEEEN.
fangtsu posts in the LJ feminist comm about two sexism related issues he encountered at work: one involving his boss valuing fangtsu's opinion over that of a female coworker, and the other involving fangtsu having trouble finding a new job because he has long hair and wears earrings (i.e. "isn't manly".)
First comment:
You're a male, correct? If so, then this isn't sexism.
And they're off! Semantics arguments abound, dictionary definitions of sexism are trotted out not once, but twice, there are accusations of hatred of white men (which are, of course, denied) and the requisite threats to leave to community and go to the anti_feminism side of the Force.</a> 131 comments and counting. But THAT'S NOT ALL!
The wank continues in this post titled "Definitions of Sexism", which is, as we know, always a subject for calm and rational debate on this comm.
Not huge yet, but it can only grow from here.
Edit: Fixed the HTML WTFery.
current mood: amused (163 comments |comment on this)
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1:52p - Presidential Groping Wank
George W. Bush recently gave an unwelcome shoulder-squeeze to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. (Video footage here.)
A blogger posts about the incident, with pictures and analysis:
http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/18/bush-the-decider-groper/
And lo, there is wank. The very first comment sets the mood nicely:
I gotta be honest…youre statements are mind-blowingly childish. Get a life…get a job…get something to do instead of sit on your ass all day and come up with stupid things to bitch about.
Not a huge fapfest, but still very amusing.
current mood: amused (82 comments |comment on this)
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3:09p - And they're off (again) ...
Yellowsnakepoet thinks that "people who are in serious relationships with/married to people with children (under 18)" should be banned from CF_Hardcore.
The rest of the comm disagrees.
And my favourite bit? Yellowsnakepoet's solution for people in love with parents - snap out of it!
current mood: Caffeinated (161 comments |comment on this)
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3:11p - "O Faygo, my Faygo": Faygo wank in English Majors
Since I was an English major in college, I joined ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif) english_majors on LJ. Given our stereotypical need to argue things, I fully expected wank from this comm. at some point.
I did not expect the wank to be about soda.
So someone starts a post with his thoughts on Dead Poets Society. Some agree that it's not really doing much for English literature; some say, "Hey, it's just a movie, you should really just relax." kickouttheiambs is the first to agree with the latter, and he/ she uses an unrelated in any way icon of a Detroit billboard advertising Faygo soda.
likeawoman objects to the ad, on the grounds that red, grape, and orange sodas in the ads and with the area codes are pandering to racial stereotypes.
Your typical small and pointless argument ensues. Snark happens. Fun in the form of responses to likeawoman by:
kickouttheiambs: I refuse to argue about racism with a white girl from the suburbs anymore. People identify with Detroit and Flint and they identify with Faygo, whether or not your one black friend in undergrad really liked grape soda. Get over yourself.
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abbacat: Well you have to admit, in the arena of comedy, this was too good not to be shared. I doff my tricorner hat, sprinkle ethnically-appropriate pixie dust & dip my unicorn's knee to you.
I will say I really liked drinking Faygo when I visited Detroit. You could chalk that up the the fact that I'm black, though.
current mood: Mystified (174 comments |comment on this)
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3:52p - FtM wank on gay_sex_tips
This comm is often brings the wank, and I can't imagine anyone was surprised that the question I was wondering what opinions you guys have regarding sex with transmen? would you be interested or completely turned off by it? if you have had sex with a transman, what r yer thoughts? got wanky with the very first comments.
There are trolls, FtMs lecturing everyone (including each other), guys getting called size queens for saying they want their partner to have an average-sized cock, and more.
Be sure not to miss the trolls saying all FtMs are fiscally irresponsible.
current music: The Killers – When You Were Young (113 comments |comment on this)
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