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tourette (tourette) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-02-22 21:38:00


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Donated by a watchful anonymouse.
As a followup to the last Hunter S. Thompson wank, we have another one here, from the ever-present [info]ginmar, veteran of more than one wank. Anyway, she posts a quote from the late writer himself, proceeding to accuse him of glamourising rape.

On the subject of rape fantasies.

Hexyhex is shot down.

Writing is not always real.

Edited to add links. And to say that badmouthing the dead is probably quite wanky enough for some people, even without the comments.

Edit no.2 to add this, the thread that preceded the one in the wank, and this thread, which mostly concerns rape fantasy. Donated by the anonymouse below.



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[info]jetamors
2005-02-22 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Good Lord, is reading comprehension dead?

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-02-22 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Hunter S Thompson glamourised EVERYTHING. Doesn't mean the rest of us think it's a good idea to vomit in someone's shoes, threaten waitresses or get the shit kicked out of us by bikers.

*sigh*

I need to step AWAY from this wank and wait until I've stopped being wibbly about Hunter topping himself, I think.

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(no subject) - tourette, 2005-02-22 11:03 pm UTC
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*snrk* - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 05:05 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2005-02-24 06:27 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-02-22 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Good lord. I wish Ginmar would keep a separate journal for her Iraq experiences (which are very interesting) and another for everything else she spews. I had to take her off my flist because when she isn't talking about Iraq, she's a wanky, humorless cunt.

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(no subject) - [info]jaina, 2005-02-23 12:51 am UTC
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[info]darkrose
2005-02-22 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Ah, Ginmar. Asking you to not be wanky is like asking the sun not to rise.

Don't ever change.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2005-02-23 12:15 am UTC (link)
So it's sexist to say that women think with their wombs, but not sexist to say that men think with their dicks?

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-23 03:54 am UTC
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(no subject) - tourette, 2005-02-24 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-02-24 09:44 pm UTC

[info]soleta
2005-02-23 12:30 am UTC (link)
oh, god, it's so good to see ginmar back. I was beginning to get withdrawl symptoms.

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[info]chaimonkey
2005-02-23 01:25 am UTC (link)
Two pronouns: Margaret Atwood.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2005-02-23 01:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-02-23 03:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2005-02-23 10:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-02-23 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2005-02-23 10:24 pm UTC
Off of my planet, bitch.
[info]darkrose
2005-02-23 01:28 am UTC (link)
This person is making me want to spit nails. Not only does she haul out the old line about "Women do BDSM because they were abused or raped," which she bases on anecdotal evidence, but when people point out that's not true for then, she says they must be lying to themselves.

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Re: Off of my planet, bitch. - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-23 03:55 am UTC
Re: Off of my planet, bitch. - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-02-23 08:33 am UTC
I've been having so much fun watching this trainwreck
(Anonymous)
2005-02-23 01:38 am UTC (link)
So, Gin made her initial post about her death (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/376445.html). Enough people disagreed with her, that she needed to start another thread with an inflammatory quote (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/378104.html) just to SHOW everybody how bad he really was. And so many people still disagreed with her that he must've been a bad bad man that she had to start a third thread (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/378511.html), because people still don't get it.

Now that she no longer has the "I'm in Iraq. Cut me some slack" defense, she seems to be having much more problems with people not just nodding and bowing at her wisdom. She also needed two (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/376814.html) separate (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/377032.html) threads yesterday over some comment about stripping as a valid career choice, after the majority of comments went the other way.

Ginmar went all wanky on me a while ago. I no longer participate in her threads, but I must say I enjoy reading them, particularly when I see people who danced to her tune a few months ago undergoing the same treatment I got... If she keeps this up, before long she won't have any friends left...

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Re: I've been having so much fun watching this trainwreck - [info]rachelmap, 2005-02-23 01:52 am UTC
Re: I've been having so much fun watching this trainwreck - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-23 03:56 am UTC

[info]blue_linnet
2005-02-23 01:51 am UTC (link)
Oy.

Well, that quote was annoying, but more because he said 'in EVERY woman's mind'. I see that kind of thing used quite a bit when talking about rape fantasies. I don't doubt that many women have them. But lots don't. (I don't, for instance. Just not my thing. Whatever.) So it's annoying to see that kind of generalization.

But good lord, ginmar, take it down about..um, ten notches. I wouldn't think a comment like that is saying 'there is no such thing as rape', or so forth.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 01:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-02-23 03:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blue_linnet, 2005-02-23 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2005-09-16 09:58 pm UTC

[info]smo
2005-02-23 02:13 am UTC (link)
Whether Thompson meant it that way or not, the bit about husbands' reactions to raped wives reflected worse on the men than it did on the women, at least to me.

All right, guys, either you two cool off or I freeze this thread, okay? Walk away for a few minutes, that's all I ask. I love you both, but just...step away for a bit, okay?

You know, when I'm the one saying this, you guys ought to be worried.


o_O

*looks around for the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse*

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[info]littleshebear
2005-02-23 02:24 am UTC (link)
Wow. I've learned SO much from this thread:

*Your argument carries less weight if Ginmar doesn't recognise your name.
*Calling people "sweetie" isn't patronising but disagreeing with Ginmar is.
*Your argument is invalid if you're younger than Ginmar.
*An ad hominem attack isn't really ad hominem if it's true.

Such an education, thank you Ginmar.

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(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2005-02-23 02:26 am UTC
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OT - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-02-23 08:19 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2005-02-23 06:45 am UTC
When all you have is a hammer... - [info]darkrose, 2005-02-23 07:27 am UTC
Re: When all you have is a hammer... - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-02-23 08:25 am UTC
Re: When all you have is a hammer... - [info]rachelmap, 2005-02-23 10:00 am UTC
Re: When all you have is a hammer... - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-02-23 11:41 am UTC
How effing thick? Gin on prison rapes - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 05:24 pm UTC
Re: How effing thick? Gin on prison rapes - [info]panthea, 2005-02-23 09:06 pm UTC
Re: How effing thick? Gin on prison rapes - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 09:14 pm UTC
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[info]mambo
2005-02-23 02:26 am UTC (link)
Ooh, this is touching on a sensitive issue for me so I may be having a knee jerk reaction, but...

tj642 does not deserve to reside under the same ozone layer as the rest of humanity. What a fucking douchebag. I am surprised she can breathe with all that pretentious egomania constantly spewing out.

[/wankwankWANK]

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[info]blackjackrocket
2005-02-23 02:55 am UTC (link)
She banned me from her journal. She can dish it out but BOY she can't take it.

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[info]gal_montag
2005-02-23 06:08 am UTC (link)
Good thing we're debating all this now that he's dead. I mean, holy shit, we can put whatever we want to in his mind now.

But hey, who can argue with someone who doesn't think an opinion holds any weight unless it's the same as hers? There's no way we can know the truth behind the statement because wow, the source of it is DEAD! She will never be right about it and neither will anyone else.

*unclenches* And stop talking shit about dead people. It's unbecoming.

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(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-02-23 06:28 am UTC
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[info]dreamtoday
2005-02-23 07:01 am UTC (link)
The thing is, some women do make other women look bad, and they do it because it's easier than working.

ahahahaha. truer words have never come out of ginmar's mouth. er, fingers. whatever.

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Inconsistency, thy name is ginmar - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 05:26 pm UTC
Re: Inconsistency, thy name is ginmar - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 11:54 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-02-23 07:50 am UTC (link)
There's something in the water, and now I'm fairly sure Hunter S Thompson put it there right before he killed himself.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-02-23 11:35 am UTC (link)
Jesus, this woman causes me to get my wank on.

I wonder how one would explain to her that not only are men capable of being raped, they're capable of being raped by women, and that it's not a social fucking act or whatever she's babbling on about, but an act of violence and NOTHING MORE?

"You're not even of the gender that gets raped"? THE FUCK?

However it was she was arguing with their gets my babies. He was funny, and didn't let her rile him.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-24 05:43 am UTC
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(no subject) - tourette, 2005-02-25 01:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-02-26 01:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-27 06:37 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-02-23 01:41 pm UTC (link)
So, somebody who's actually read HST's book pops in (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/376445.html?thread=6519677#t6519677) to provide context. Gin mocks and then bans him (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/376445.html?thread=6674301#t6674301), but get a load of this coda:
I don't even get the good trolls.
I practically had to sit on my hands not to reply, "Well, maybe if you didn't ban everybody who remotely disagrees with you, you'd have some more interesting people to talk with!"

Oh, and get a load of comments here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/378511.html?thread=6655887#t6672271) and here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/378511.html?thread=6668687#t6668687) where even her supporters are starting to question her rhetorical style. I'm curious how (or whether) she'll respond...

- C

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[info]gorogoro
2005-02-23 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Every time I read a Ginmar wank, the urge to take up the fine art of trolling rises just a little more. I mean, can you imagine if she /totally/ flew off the handle? It'd be priceless.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-23 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-24 06:50 pm UTC
Bwah!
[info]darkrose
2005-02-23 07:45 pm UTC (link)
Sigh. Can I get Gerard Butler in my emotional thrall? Because---Oh, sorry, did I said that aloud?

So now RPS != rape when Ginmar's the one doing the fantasizing? This just keeps getting better.

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[info]charmian
2005-02-23 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Tips for avoiding being banned at Ginmar's LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=ginmar

Wow, she has the longest userinfo I've ever seen.

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(no subject) - [info]lindentree, 2005-02-24 03:24 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-02-24 10:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-02-26 01:02 pm UTC

[info]blackjackrocket
2005-02-23 11:15 pm UTC (link)
I asked why she was so hard against RPGs and she screamed at me. Apparently she knows them as being some sort of grenade launcher, so when I pointed out that really, more people connect that abbreviation with "role playing games", I got this reply:

Subject: oh, grow up!

Only a relatively small fraction of the world knows what a
role-playing-game is, whereas all too many folk have experience or
knowledge of rocket-propelled-grenades. Oh, to be a coddled little
darling!


Does she need to be reminded of the amount of gamers that join the armed forces?

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(no subject) - tourette, 2005-02-24 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2005-02-24 01:13 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-02-24 12:34 am UTC (link)
This is the first time I've ever wanted to troll. Ever. I'm fighting hard the urge to wank.

She makes me hate feminists, which is really unfortunate, since I'm fairly sure the majority of them aren't so *batshit insane*.

-bluedelirium at lj

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-24 12:36 am UTC

[info]gal_montag
2005-02-24 09:37 am UTC (link)
I want to print out that entry just so I can burn it and pee on the ashes. And she calls herself Radar O'Reily with a sex change!? Oh I loathe her. And she put a copyright on her userinfo. *facepalm*

Pretentious fucking twat. *growl*

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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2005-02-24 09:25 pm UTC
Apparently, anonymity isn't cool in yonmei's book... - (Anonymous), 2005-02-25 01:04 am UTC
Re: Apparently, anonymity isn't cool in yonmei's book... - [info]gal_montag, 2005-02-25 01:58 am UTC
That's a flame? - (Anonymous), 2005-02-25 06:51 pm UTC



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