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electricchick (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} electricchick) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} otf_wank,@ 2005-03-17 14:59:00 |
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Wow, Metaquotes is sure bringing the wank lately.
It all starts when gunneryunagirl has her angry rant against males metaquoted. Some highlights:
It is also unattractive when you gawk at me because I like slash. Okay, get over it. If you can like girl-on-girl, I can like guy-on-guy. On the same note, gender roles should be a thing of the past. Just because I'm female does NOT mean I was fucking born to do your dishes, act like a damsel in distress, and be your general eye candy.
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Hey. My face is up here, thank you. Unless my tits suddenly sprout eyeballs, a mouth and a nose, I forbid you to use it as your default eyelevel. While I dislike people staring at me straight in the eyes while talking (because it's creepy, thank you), I'd just appreciate it if you could meet my eyes. It means alot to know you're listening to what I have to say, not nodding and saying "uh-huh" once in a while while you stare at my chest. Fuck you.
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I do not consider my gender to be smarter than yours. I do not consider yours to be any smarter than mine, either. But I do think that the gender line seems to draw a distinct realization between our sexes - the media says you guys must be macho, funny, sexy bad boys, and the media says I have to be thin with a D chest and so-and-so fashionable clothes. I, apparently, also have to be your personal thing to play with, and I do not agree with any of that. You know what? I don't exist to be that pretty doll for you to stare at, to smile at you, and devote all my attention to you. I am a human being, and I, shock of shocks, like to be on my own sometimes. I like having time to think, where I don't have to entertain *you*. And guess what? THAT'S OKAY. You're a human too, right? I assume you can find something to occupy yourself with! You can find something to do, right? GOOD. DO THAT. Let me have my private time alone.
First comment:
deviatednorm: Man, what a twatty lady.
biztheinsane: How dare she be her own woman!
deviatednorm: I'm sure she could do it with a lot less bitching.
I mean, isn't that the most basic stereotype of a woman?
And of course, from there the thread degenerates into a spooge-fest on sexism. Of course.
acetal jumps in about his annoyance with women who bitch about men.
I think that a fair proportion of these responses are because, pardon my language, guys are getting fucking sick of this sort of thing.
Okay, have a moan. Fair enough. But it seems that it's become chic to put men down. To generalise, whenever a female wants approval from other females, they bash guys. "Oh, all men are scum." "They're so pathetic, aren't they?" "I'll never stop finding it funny when they get hit in the balls."
To use a recent [Unknown LJ tag]example, there was a quote in which a man related that a doctor `took a relatively large q-tip and without warning stuck it in my peehole.' Predictably, we got 96 comments from women saying that that was nothing. Because your pain makes everyone else's less in comparison OMG. To quote, `cry me a river'. Nothing excuses being a bitch: not PMS, not having a bad day or a bad boyfriend. Vent all you like - you have that right, just like everyone else. But there's venting and then there's misandry
It's bad enough that guys are being raised in a generation that tells them they're automatically bad and fools without constantly being told that none of their experiences are valid because they're not women.
Guess what? There are nice guys out there. Some of them aren't taken or gay. They just don't want to have anything to do with you because your attitude towards men puts them off. Yes, I generally consider myself one of those nice guys. Nice doesn't equal doormat. By the same token, nice doesn't mean `treats everyone except you like crap.'
Remember, people are...people. Regardless of gender.
elettaria: OMG mysogyny!
acetal: Dude, WTF?
Massive wanking about feminism ensues, as if you had any doubt.
Man, Metaquotes... three OTF_wank entries in a row. Must be some sort of record.
It all starts when gunneryunagirl has her angry rant against males metaquoted. Some highlights:
It is also unattractive when you gawk at me because I like slash. Okay, get over it. If you can like girl-on-girl, I can like guy-on-guy. On the same note, gender roles should be a thing of the past. Just because I'm female does NOT mean I was fucking born to do your dishes, act like a damsel in distress, and be your general eye candy.
...
Hey. My face is up here, thank you. Unless my tits suddenly sprout eyeballs, a mouth and a nose, I forbid you to use it as your default eyelevel. While I dislike people staring at me straight in the eyes while talking (because it's creepy, thank you), I'd just appreciate it if you could meet my eyes. It means alot to know you're listening to what I have to say, not nodding and saying "uh-huh" once in a while while you stare at my chest. Fuck you.
...
I do not consider my gender to be smarter than yours. I do not consider yours to be any smarter than mine, either. But I do think that the gender line seems to draw a distinct realization between our sexes - the media says you guys must be macho, funny, sexy bad boys, and the media says I have to be thin with a D chest and so-and-so fashionable clothes. I, apparently, also have to be your personal thing to play with, and I do not agree with any of that. You know what? I don't exist to be that pretty doll for you to stare at, to smile at you, and devote all my attention to you. I am a human being, and I, shock of shocks, like to be on my own sometimes. I like having time to think, where I don't have to entertain *you*. And guess what? THAT'S OKAY. You're a human too, right? I assume you can find something to occupy yourself with! You can find something to do, right? GOOD. DO THAT. Let me have my private time alone.
First comment:
deviatednorm: Man, what a twatty lady.biztheinsane: How dare she be her own woman!deviatednorm: I'm sure she could do it with a lot less bitching.I mean, isn't that the most basic stereotype of a woman?
And of course, from there the thread degenerates into a spooge-fest on sexism. Of course.
acetal jumps in about his annoyance with women who bitch about men.I think that a fair proportion of these responses are because, pardon my language, guys are getting fucking sick of this sort of thing.
Okay, have a moan. Fair enough. But it seems that it's become chic to put men down. To generalise, whenever a female wants approval from other females, they bash guys. "Oh, all men are scum." "They're so pathetic, aren't they?" "I'll never stop finding it funny when they get hit in the balls."
To use a recent [Unknown LJ tag]example, there was a quote in which a man related that a doctor `took a relatively large q-tip and without warning stuck it in my peehole.' Predictably, we got 96 comments from women saying that that was nothing. Because your pain makes everyone else's less in comparison OMG. To quote, `cry me a river'. Nothing excuses being a bitch: not PMS, not having a bad day or a bad boyfriend. Vent all you like - you have that right, just like everyone else. But there's venting and then there's misandry
It's bad enough that guys are being raised in a generation that tells them they're automatically bad and fools without constantly being told that none of their experiences are valid because they're not women.
Guess what? There are nice guys out there. Some of them aren't taken or gay. They just don't want to have anything to do with you because your attitude towards men puts them off. Yes, I generally consider myself one of those nice guys. Nice doesn't equal doormat. By the same token, nice doesn't mean `treats everyone except you like crap.'
Remember, people are...people. Regardless of gender.
elettaria: OMG mysogyny!acetal: Dude, WTF?Massive wanking about feminism ensues, as if you had any doubt.
Man, Metaquotes... three OTF_wank entries in a row. Must be some sort of record.
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