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	kadath 2005-03-31 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	What's all this "you can't be a feminist if you're not a woman" static? Also, holy overreaction, Batman! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	lindentree 2005-03-31 11:23 pm UTC (link)
	Word. That gave me a bit of a "buh?" moment. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	xero_sky 2005-03-31 09:06 pm UTC (link)
	Gay, I may be, but truth be told, there's still a penis attached. And most days, there's also knitting needles in my hand. Wouldn't that chafe? (Reply to this)

	judyhazeleyes 2005-03-31 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	I'll never understand... why people... feel the need... to abuse poor... ellipses... in such a cold, heartless... manner... I think, they're almost as, badly abused as the, comma. And let's not allow ourselve's to forget the apo'strophe. Some days, I want to start a support group for abused punctuation marks. It makes my heart hurt, I tell you. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	miss_kitten 2005-03-31 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	It's all...the...FAULT...of Shatner. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	atalantapendrag 2005-03-31 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	hands you a virtual copy of EATS, SHOOTS & LEAVES (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	judyhazeleyes 2005-04-01 10:49 pm UTC (link)
	Hehehehe! I actually saw a copy of that at the bookstore the other day, and would've snatched it up immediately if I had any money. You're every kind of awesome =D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	atalantapendrag 2005-04-01 10:55 pm UTC (link)
	Not only is it well worth the reading, but when strapped to a copy of THE TRANSITIVE VAMPIRE, it makes an excellent bludgeoning instrument should gentle correction prove fruitless. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	edana_ni_emer 2009-05-26 05:38 am UTC (link)
	I totally read that as THE TRANSVESTITE VAMPIRE. I'm... not entirely sure why. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sam_chan 2005-03-31 11:09 pm UTC (link)
	Won't someone please think of the punctuation? Well, someone had to say it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2005-04-01 02:08 am UTC (link)
	It thinks of you... naked. C'mon, that was almost as inevitable! Though trying to understand the exact... physics of that makes my head hurt. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	judyhazeleyes 2005-04-01 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	Indeed. Filthy apostrophes. No wonder they're always showing up where they aren't needed/wanted - they're actually voyeurs, hoping to get a glimpse of some hot plural action. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	squib 2005-04-01 10:17 am UTC (link)
	I know! Poor things, they never get so much as sick leave. :) (Not that I--can talk-- considering as how-- I abuse-- dashes--) (Reply to this)(Parent)

somnambulicious
2005-03-31 09:19 pm UTC (link)

The connotations of feminism to me has always been anti-male, something that women can do that is strictly for women and men can't have any part in. It's always been presented to me as an anti-patriarchal thing to keep males out of the female world. To me, feminism has always seemed so negative because I have a penis, and therefore can't possibly understand what it's like.

So...he's a gay man who gets all his information about feminism from Rush Limbaugh?

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	kadath 2005-03-31 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	He's helping break down my stereotypical perception of gay men as fun, socially-informed, and just generally lovely people. It's a learning experience. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	redwarrior 2005-03-31 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	Or really really pissed off lesbians. And have him get out of my sexual orientation, STAT, it's making it look stupid. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

*fervently hopes sarcastic tone comes through*

somnambulicious
2005-04-01 12:00 am UTC (link)

How dare you bring your sexuality into this! I find that offensive, because I am female and ~~feel left out~~ have a fucked-up definition of male-on-male homosexuality which I shall now share with you!

The connotations of male gayness to me has always been anti-female, something that men can do that is strictly for men and women can't have any part in. It's always been presented to me as an anti-matriarichal thing to keep females out of the male world. To me, male gayness has always seemed so negative because I don't have a penis, and therefore can't possibly understand what it's like.

*sobs dramatically* Why? Why do you all have to be so goddamned exclusionary? IT'S ALL ABOUT LEAVING US GIRLS OUT, ISN'T IT? YOU SEXIST SNOBS!

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	Re: fervently hopes sarcastic tone comes through sesana 2005-04-01 06:10 am UTC (link)
	Are you from ancient Greece, by any chance? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: fervently hopes sarcastic tone comes through somnambulicious 2005-04-01 09:07 am UTC (link)
	Oh, Cleonice, my heart is on fire; I blush for our sex. Men will have it we are tricky and sly. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: fervently hopes sarcastic tone comes through redwarrior 2005-04-03 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	ROFLMAO The sad part is, you sound like some women I knew in college. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gaminette 2005-03-31 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	isn't there anything in jurisimprudence about feminists and auto-wank? I could have sworn there was (and if there isn't, there should be!) O_o (Reply to this)

	isntitironic 2005-03-31 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	I would just like to point out that during the Middle Ages, only men were allowed to join Knitters' Guilds. Also, pink and red, as the colours of flesh and blood, were considered strong, manly colours. Blue, traditionally the colour of the Virgin's Veil, was a properly modest colour for a woman. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	lurker32 2005-03-31 10:31 pm UTC (link)
	I LOVE THAT ICON. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	isntitironic 2005-03-31 10:37 pm UTC (link)
	It is much too easy to add sarcastic captions to Tudor portraiture. It shouldn't be. But it is. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lurker32 2005-03-31 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	Heee. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kadath 2005-03-31 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	They're all thinking "You traded us for the Hapsburgs? Bitch, please." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lindentree 2005-03-31 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	Hee! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	akairis 2005-04-03 09:05 am UTC (link)
	GIP (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lurker32 2005-03-31 10:37 pm UTC (link)
	feminist does not imply female. Uh, yes it does. What you mean to say, nicolegray, is "feminist does not NECESSARILY INCLUDE female". Because, sorry, the first image that leaps to mind when someone says feminist is... a woman. Surprise. [/pedant] (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ashenmote 2005-04-01 12:31 am UTC (link)
	But what if the the first image is 'wank' and only the second image is 'a woman'? Won't nobody think of my journalfen'ed mental conditioning? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ladybirdsleeps 2005-04-01 03:38 am UTC (link)
	Wow, I had no idea that men can't be feminists. You learn something new ~~on Fandom Wank~~ everyday! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lurker32 2005-04-01 05:25 am UTC (link)
	No, I was just picking apart her phrasing. Because I'm annoying like that. XD (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adora_spintriae 2005-04-01 12:34 am UTC (link)
	Oh dear fucking IPU... hedesk (Reply to this)

	princessdot 2005-04-01 08:14 am UTC (link)
	Hijole, this is why I stay AWAY from the knitting comm on LJ. Scarier than having them come after me with their metal needles. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2005-04-01 06:15 pm UTC (link)

Actually, for the most part things are very reasonable. The second-largest thread in there concerns someone who posted a PETA article about merino sheep asking "Is this true?" And a number of people saying, basically, "Not really," and everyone coming to the conclusions that "PETA overreacts" and "okay, good, I like merino wool anyway so I'll ignore this."

It's fine, really.

Queencallipygos on LJ, who appears here and there in the thread

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	teapotgirl 2005-04-01 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Have you seen the mini yarn snob flamewar in the recent "Why does Red Heart suck" post? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2005-04-01 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	I haven't. Eh, I tend not to pay too much attention to snobbery as a general rule; it usually doesn't even register on my radar. I'll take a look, though. - QC (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-04-02 10:52 am UTC (link)
	Well, I personally am absolutely fucking gobsmacked that something like knitting...KNITTING, for fuck's sake!...generates such an enormous amount of shitfights. It is beyond belief! Lucan (http://www.livejournal.com/users/lordlucan) (Reply to this)(Parent)