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	mistressrenet 2005-04-11 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, belladona totally missed hir Prozac that day. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kadath 2005-04-11 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	Belladonna is right, though. Still, way to make her side look stupid, wot? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sailoreagle 2005-04-11 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah. I agree with her, in theory, but the way her point is presented almost makes me want to side with the OP. It's not like the guy made a huge "so this totally queer guy came into my store today and was, like, totally gay"-type post... it was mostly harmless. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kadath 2005-04-11 09:05 pm UTC (link)
	It doesn't have to be overt to be homophobic. In fact, the subtle kind is worse, because it's harder to identify. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sailoreagle 2005-04-11 09:48 pm UTC (link)
	I know, and I agree - my point was that belladona's reaction was WAY over the top when looking at what the original post was. That's all :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kadath 2005-04-11 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, sure. She went nuclear when all the situation warranted was a "Dude, that's not cool." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mistressrenet 2005-04-12 12:47 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah-- a comment saying "that offended me, and here's why-- it's something you might not have considered" is far more effective, in my experience, than SCREAMING IN SOMEONE'S EAR. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rosehiptea 2005-04-12 01:40 am UTC (link)
	I think belladonna has a really good point too. I just want to snerk whenever I see anyone say "exploiting decades of orpression." Which is probably very cynical of me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kadath 2005-04-11 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	I saw this, and didn't want to click to expand the comments so that I could report it. You are braver than I. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sailoreagle 2005-04-11 09:01 pm UTC (link)
	Trainwreck syndrome. I couldn't help but look. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cat_mcdougall 2005-04-11 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	I think what got me is this comment. I've used gay to mean happy. I'm not homosexual, nor am I homophobic. Does this mean I can't use the word? Because she certainly (at least to me) is making it sound that it's ok for homosexuals to use it, but not anyone else. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2005-04-12 11:14 am UTC (link)
	I love it when people go "You can't use that word! It's our word." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	miss_kitten 2005-04-11 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	and I've tried being gay... not my cup of tea. I tried being black once. The whole "racism deal" was totally not my cup of tea either. Man, I am glad I'm white and heterosexual. Can you even imagine? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	nicolae 2005-04-12 01:48 am UTC (link)
	Oh my god your icon. It fills me with such ~~cum~~ joy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nicolae 2005-04-11 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. So...this is a cop? Wanting to put people who have been arrested in fluffy maribou handcuffs? Man. (And just sayin', but none of the gay people I know who are into bondage are into, you know, fluffy pink bondage. It's just not kinky.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	loony666 2005-04-11 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	heh. I know a couple people who are. Not because of the humiliation aspect. They just think it's purdy. shrugs Lesbians, though, not gay men. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	nicolae 2005-04-11 10:13 pm UTC (link)
	Personally, if I'm going to be tied up, I'd prefer household implements (scarf, t-shirt, whatever) than something I have to pay for. But that's just because I'm cheap. And also don't struggle very hard. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	greenglass 2005-04-11 10:57 pm UTC (link)
	It's more realistic too. Also, they are more comfortable than most handcuffs. I like ribbon. But that's because it's shiny and pretty! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2005-04-12 12:37 am UTC (link)
	Hear hear. I'm such a -girlyass- kinky h0. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	plazmah 2005-04-12 04:05 am UTC (link)
	I am changing my name in at JF to "girlyass kinky h0", if you don't mind ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kannaophelia 2005-04-12 02:25 am UTC (link)
	Pink makes everything more fun. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	funwithrage 2005-04-11 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah. I think fluffy and pink is humiliating regardless of orientation. I do like the idea of sticking hardc0rz gangsta teen shoplifters in pink maribou. And then parading them down the street, honestly. Hee. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	nicolae 2005-04-11 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	I could see, like, you want something that doesn't look all big and scary. But if you're a cop? It's supposed to be scary. (I think all teenaged boys should have to wear pink maribou. Just 'cause.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2005-04-12 06:34 am UTC (link)
	I think it's more to humilate them publically... Gangsta hos are all like 'y0, I gots me arresssttedd' But when you have them in fluffy pink maribou handcuffs.. They arn't going to feel so tough and punk.. (Reply to this)(Parent)

sadisticferret
2005-04-11 10:45 pm UTC (link)

The whole "I'm gay, and I did/didn't find it offensive, so everyone/no one else should!" thing irks me more than anything else in this thread.

It's sort of like they're all trying to represent the Hive Vagina, only everyone's on a different side. Maybe gays and lesbians aren't meant to be a Hive Vagina. Perhaps we should be a Double-Ended Hive Dildo? Or maybe I should just go back to bed.

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	nicolae 2005-04-11 11:02 pm UTC (link)
	EXACTLY. I get irritated when people get offended on my behalf (OMG, you said that in front of a lesbian, IMAGINE HOW SHE FEELS) but I am a bitter and cynical misanthrope, so this amuses me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lurker32 2005-04-12 12:33 am UTC (link)
	Somehow, the phrase "Hive Dildo" makes me all crawly. ~_~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2005-04-12 04:12 am UTC (link)
	Same here. I think it's all those teeth. Brr. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kenovay 2005-04-11 11:25 pm UTC (link)
	I really, really want Belladonna to choke on a pretzel. (Reply to this)

	adora_spintriae 2005-04-11 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	what would a homosexual toaster look like? My toaster is pretty gay. She keeps on trying to hump the kettle. But the kettle doesn't know whether she wants the juicer or the toaster. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eclair 2005-04-12 01:37 am UTC (link)
	...Agh. I read the sentence as "But the kettle doesn't know whether she wants to juice her or to toast her." Which, in its own sounds immensely kinky. Hello brain. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ruby_tuesday 2005-04-12 12:30 am UTC (link)
	Wow. On one hand, I kind of agree with belladona, but at the same time, I want to force-feed her some heavy medication. (Reply to this)

(Anonymous)
2005-04-12 01:00 am UTC (link)

Hey, just a friendly anonymouse with a tip for a small wank you all might be interested in ... the lj comm anti_bush has a 14 year old moderator who has recently banned

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Hey, just a friendly anonymouse with a tip for a small wank you all might be interested in ... the lj comm anti_bush has a 14 year old moderator who has recently banned <a href="<a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/the_atomic_bomb/4492.html?view=13964#t13964">one member</a> of the community for omg! <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/anti_bush/517242.html?thread=2889850#t2889850">disagreeing </a>with her, and she's also been quite bitchy in general. Not much so far, but it might be fun to poke at a little ^_^

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	ashenmote 2005-04-12 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Fourteen? Nah. Way to old. waves that away (Reply to this)(Parent)

	wankprophet 2005-04-12 02:15 am UTC (link)
	We've been rejecting this wank at a rapid clip. 14 = way too young for these wank communities. Rule of thumb: if I, as an adult, can't fuck the wanker ten ways to Sunday without being brought up on charges, then the wanker is too young for Journalfen. In other words, send nudie pix and a reproduction of her driver's license and we'll see. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	blackjackrocket 2005-04-12 05:38 am UTC (link)
	I thought communities were exempt from that. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-04-12 11:33 am UTC (link)
	14 is age of consent in Michigan. they'll let people basicly commit pedophilia, but heaven for bid I be allowed to have pellet guns or Mead shipped directly to me... I hate the people in this state...... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	suziecroft 2005-04-13 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	Perhaps, but they still gotta be 18 or over before they can be wanked. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	loonylupinlover 2005-04-12 03:10 am UTC (link)
	Oh, belladona. I remember you from this wank. Fond memories! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sailoreagle 2005-04-12 08:16 am UTC (link)
	So she REGULARLY wanksplodes like that, and it's not just a freak occurrence? Good gods, who pisses in her cereals daily? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mastervex 2005-04-12 05:29 am UTC (link)
	The homosexual=degrading part pisses me off. But yeah, overreaction there. (Reply to this)

	twocorpses 2005-04-12 05:40 am UTC (link)
	Once again the awful awful spelling by belladona makes it hard for me to even TRY to read the whole thing. I want to see some wank that has correct grammar and spelling dammit!!! (Reply to this)

	jfpbookworm 2005-04-12 04:46 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, belladonna overreacted and fed the trolls with a ranch dressing hose (and then the ljdrama trolls took over, and things got really stupid), but customers_suck has become a dumping ground for a lot of offensive/hateful material, and a haven for the "PC police police" who will attack anyone who calls them on it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kadath 2005-04-12 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	That's because pezstar practices some strange Zen form of driveby community maintenance which doesn't bear any resemblance to actual responsibility. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	loony666 2005-04-13 11:08 am UTC (link)
	Yo. Stop being on my side. (Reply to this)