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	darthhellokitty 2003-10-21 03:55 am UTC (link)
	Wow, some "debate"... (Reply to this)

	banal_o_rama 2003-10-21 04:16 am UTC (link)
	A single person is none too bright. Get a group of them together to work on something--particularly if they barely know each other--and they're not going to produce much worth reading. Debate is the community of a thousand boners, ain't it? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-10-21 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	If you actually want to stand there and count, you'll find that that's most likely the case. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	northatlantic 2003-10-21 04:56 am UTC (link)
	Fuck you. I'm a dragon. ~snerk~ ah, a true gem of rhetoric there--when at a loss to prove one's own superiority, make fun of otherkin! has that been Godwinized yet? or possibly a corollary of a similar law re: furries? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tempslut 2003-10-21 06:22 am UTC (link)
	This needs an icon... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	psychofangirl 2003-10-21 07:15 am UTC (link)
	Like this one? I did it pretty quickly though. Heh (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	fandom_bitch 2003-10-21 07:16 am UTC (link)
	I love how the "fuck you" is right by the dragon's open mouth. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sarahchica 2003-10-21 05:47 pm UTC (link)
	I love that icon. So great. Heh. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	tempslut 2003-10-21 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	Perfect! swipes (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	psychofangirl 2003-10-21 06:56 pm UTC (link)
	EHEHE! Thanks! I'm going to make more! :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	terminal_frost 2003-10-21 08:04 am UTC (link)
	~snerk~ ah, a true gem of rhetoric there--when at a loss to prove one's own superiority, make fun of otherkin! has that been Godwinized yet? or possibly a corollary of a similar law re: furries? I'd make a motion to create a new law just for that, but I've already got one, so I'm just avoiding egotism. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	virago 2003-10-21 05:01 pm UTC (link)
	Well, "when in doubt, randomly attack the other person's subculture/fandom/interests" is a staple of online asshattery. It's not just otherkin. I'd say they're probably getting hit hard lately there because of the recent thread, but the "Yeah, but you're [blank]! ahahahaahha!" is nothing new. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	northatlantic 2003-10-21 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	was the person she was replying to with that one of the otherkin folk? I thought it was less an attack than a sad attempt to invoke solidarity "well, at least I'm funny, not crazy like those OTHER (insert your favorite PRE-verts here), ha ha ha." which, yes, also a tried-and-true disguise for lack of a real argument. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	virago 2003-10-21 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	I don't know if they were, but yes, that's true. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	beandelphiki 2003-10-22 12:44 am UTC (link)
	If you go back a few days, you can probably find the debate post that comes from. Some guy who's otherkin had a post where he was asking how his belief that he is spiritually a dragon is any better than someone's belief in God. (Reply to this)(Parent)

terminal_frost
2003-10-21 08:10 am UTC (link)

I wonder... Is she using "average" in the most general way possible, or is she using specifics?

I mean, we're all "average" or "below average" at something. In my case, I am "below average" when it comes to mathematics (I can't calculate formulas with big numbers without resorting to a calculator). In that sense, I am stupid.

But what about when I'm being assessed in an area in which I am good? Like say, art. To some, I am above average. Does that make me smart?

Stupidity and intelligence are all relative at some point, and one example of lousing things up does not make someone stupid, nor does getting a perfect grade in a test make you smart.

It's all in the eye of the beholder I guess...

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	teratologist 2003-10-21 02:44 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. Way to provide hardly any useful context and make sweeping assumptions from a minuscule sample group. That's what I think of when I think of 'elite intellectuals'. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-10-21 05:40 pm UTC (link)
	Elite intellectuals powered by high-tech mechanisms indeed. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jfpbookworm 2003-10-21 05:33 pm UTC (link)
	Is debate always overrun by trolls, or has it just gotten really bad in the last few days? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-10-21 05:40 pm UTC (link)
	Pretty much. You can go shift through some older entries and find that it really is always that bad. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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