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A Guy Named Goo ([info]the_clansmen) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-05-02 16:15:00
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PP and Plan B...go!
Someone posts in [info]vaginapagina about a Planned Parenthood that is going to be offering Plan B pretty much hassle-free. The thread is pretty much making with the "yay!" until [info]bambenek comes along and confuses everyone. Or at least he confused me.

EDIT: It seems [info]bambenek has crossposted to several threads, and has also joined in a similar thread here in the [info]chambana community.

Best quote so far:

[info]muliebrity: You know, you're right. I'm not really prolife. I really want to KILL ALL TEH BAYBEEZ IN TEH WORLD.
No. I want to prevent unplanned pregnancies so that abortion doesn't even enter to picture. It's called being sensible. While you go and scream on your soapbox all day about the evils of EC, I'll spend my time educating women about birth control. I guarantee my method of creating the need for less abortions would be more effective than yours.

[info]bambanek: Maybe, but I guarantee my method will have women not being used as sex toys.

Why do you believe that women are worth nothing more that a recepticle of some random men's sperm? I guess maybe I have more respect for the equality and dignity of women then that.

[info]bambanek - his logic is not only not from earth, it is not even from this solar system!

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2005-05-03 12:27 am UTC (link)
He's not very bright, is he?

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 01:29 am UTC (link)
He should be put in a room with [info]rfjason. That should keep both of them occupied for awhile.

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[info]greypearl
2005-05-03 12:36 am UTC (link)
They are violating the law by writing prescriptions for problems that don't exist yet.

*stares* Yeah, that one really makes sense.

Patient: I'm travelling abroad, and I was told to take some anti-malarials. Can I get a prescription for them?
Doctor: No, I'm sorry, we're not allowed to give any preventative medicine. Please come back when you're dying.

Or even better--

Patient: Doctor, I've been having some problems with the missus lately. You know what I mean, don't you?
Doctor: Explain.
Patient: I can't get it up anymore, Doc. Can I have some Viagra?
Doctor: Sorry, you'll have to come back when you're actually experiencing erectile dysfunction.
Patient: What, during sex?
Doctor: *grins evilly* Exactly.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 12:39 am UTC (link)
...You win for the second one. Don't suppose I could crosspost that over there? (Course... then I'd have to move this to i_wank...)

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[info]greypearl
2005-05-03 01:00 am UTC (link)
Thanks. If you really want to crosspost, feel free.

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[info]iczer6
2005-05-03 03:42 am UTC (link)
Does that mean that I wouldn't be able to get my insulin if I'm not having problems with my blood-sugar when I see the doctor?

Or get my asthma medication when I'm not having an attack?

Sadly I think we're not putting enough time into finding a cure for Asshatness.

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[info]aerobot
2005-05-03 09:21 am UTC (link)
OMFG that is brilliant. I love you.

Can I metaquote, please please?

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[info]greypearl
2005-05-03 01:57 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! You have permission. *feels flattered*

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[info]aerobot
2005-05-03 02:07 pm UTC (link)
Quoted! You sexy thing!

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redwarrior
2005-05-03 12:59 am UTC (link)
Whoa, bambenek is a misogynist bastard...

It sounds to me like he thinks the only reason women exist is to make more people. *headdesk*

"Fertility not a problem"? Yeah, right.

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[info]tempslut
2005-05-03 01:28 am UTC (link)
The way bambenek phrases things, you'd think it would be easy to get Plan B just about anywhere. Easy to say when you live in a college town such as Champaign. As this article illustrates, Plan B--and even regular birth control pills--can be extremely hard to come by in rural areas. It doesn't help that some of these towns depend a lot on Wal-Mart for everything, and Wal-Mart, for so-called "business reasons", won't stock Plan B.

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[info]frau_eva
2005-05-03 01:35 am UTC (link)
God, I hate arguing with smug pricks who make no sense and no matter how thoroughly you explain it, will not realize that their arguements are full of crap. They won't even acknowledge when they're being backed into a corner. Fuckin' annoying.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 05:09 am UTC (link)
I'm not pro-life, but on their behalf: Get off my side, you're making my side look really, really stupid.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-03 04:21 am UTC (link)
From Bambenek's blog:

I have called Planned Parenthood and the woman who answered the phone confirmed this event is taking place sponsored by their education department. The problem is that EC in Illinois still requires a prescription. They COULD have a qualified person on hand to write those presecriptions but unless people are planning on scheduling their "accidents" on May 10th, it's clear they are putting these drugs in circulation for future use and not relating to any current issues. This is in complete disregard of the law. The notice itself makes clear this as well. In short, they are giving away this prescription drug for free without a prescription knowing full well it is going to be stockpiled. This is flagrantly illegal. The police have been notified. Here is contact info: [snip]

Rrright. I see where the disconnect is. He's assuming that:

1. Plan B is an emergency medication.

2. Plan B requires a prescription.

3. Therefore, Plan B should be prescribed only in the presence of an emergency.

In reality, all the prescription law means is that someone with the appropriate medical knowledge should oversee the dispensing of the drug to make sure that the woman knows how to take it and doesn't have any risk conditions. As several other people have pointed out, there are plenty of emergency drugs that are dispensed early as a preventive measure. Plan B is no different.

...Now can someone who's involved in the wank pound this into the asshat's skull? Possibly with a rusty firepick?

-- Issendai

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 04:31 am UTC (link)
Wow, thank you for deciphering his so-called logic. Now I sort of understand what the hell he's babbling about. Except I don't, really.

Feel free to come join the wank, I'm sure we'd love to have you.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-03 06:33 am UTC (link)
He's crossposted his stupidity everywhere, and refuses to listen to reason.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-05-03 10:23 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I suppose I should go yell at my doctor for prescribing me extra-strength painkillers for future migraine attack, huh?

Idiots like this make my brain hurt. Ow.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 10:36 am UTC (link)
He prescribed them in case of idiot attack, right? Cause it sounds like you'll be needing them now.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-05-03 10:39 am UTC (link)
Well, idiots are one of the main triggers, it seems, and the one I can't seem to actually avoid, so yeah.

"In case of idiots, take two and call me in the morning."

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-23 08:14 pm UTC (link)
With all due respect, why, if stupid trigger the pain, do you subject yourself to wank? Intellectual masochism?

-A different mouse

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[info]bubosquared
2005-05-24 08:01 am UTC (link)
Yes.

Also with all due respect, you do realise this entire discussion is nearly a month old, right?

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[info]eljuno
2005-05-04 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Same for me with the anti-seizure meds I've got around, right?

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[info]ororo
2005-05-04 09:55 pm UTC (link)
and my inhaler too?

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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-05-03 07:12 am UTC (link)
Bzuh? Wait a minute... PP is violating whose freedom of speech? Timmy fell down the well again? Grandma put the cat in the microwave?

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 07:28 am UTC (link)
Again? Dammit! Granny, how many times do I have to tell you, if you try to dry the cat that way it'll explode!

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[info]deadlettero
2005-05-03 09:18 am UTC (link)
bambenek is either the funniest man ever or the final way to crush my soul. Hard to tell at this point.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 10:33 am UTC (link)
I'm with you on that one. Anytime I read anything he says, I'm torn between laughing because it makes no goddamn sense or crying because he seems to genuinely believe what he's saying.

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[info]mastervex
2005-05-03 11:05 am UTC (link)
Comdey-bringing troll or total nutbar? The world may never know.

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[info]mastervex
2005-05-03 11:06 am UTC (link)
Comedy. *curses under breath*

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 07:04 pm UTC (link)
I think it's the latter. He has himself listed as living in Champagne (sp? too lazy to look up) where the PP is located that's doing the free Plan-B. So unless he's an area or interest specific troll, he's unfortunately serious.

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[info]lessis
2005-05-03 09:41 am UTC (link)
Sorry I have to get this out of my system

I'm using common sense. I don't think people are planning their condom breaks for May 10th.

People don't plan for condom breaks EVER!!!

Why why does this idiot not get that women want to plan ahead and be prepared in the event of an emergency? And that it is perfectly legal for them to do so. An emergency does not need to have happened or even be eminent for a person to plan for it. It's better to have Plan B there and ready in the event of an emergency, than to have the emergency and THEN get plan B(no matter how "easy" it is to get Plan B.

For some reason I keep thinking about a local mall that has signs near the door boasting about emergency defibrillators kept there(with staff trained to use them) So if a patron has a heart attack(you a time matters emergency) a defibrillator is right there rather than wait for an ambulance to come. Oh and btw right across the street from the mall is a hospital.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 10:33 am UTC (link)
Why why does this idiot not get that women want to plan ahead and be prepared in the event of an emergency?

And you know... I can't even figure out what exactly he's arguing for. Is he against Plan B? Is he against something he perceives as illegal? Is he just an asshat? (I'm banking on that last one.)

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[info]funwithrage
2005-05-03 05:45 pm UTC (link)
He's against women having sex for any reason than the baybeeez, apparently. So, yeah, asshat.

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[info]gweniveeve
2005-05-03 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Does he think that women don't have sex very often? That's why it's a good drug to have on hand -- women, just like men, frequently have sex. And mistakes happen.

According to his logic, if you have asthma, you shouldn't have an inhaler on hand at all times, you should simply go to the doctor when you have an attack. Or something. Because seriously, lots of people have asthma who rarely use their inhalers -- but they're damn glad to have them on hand when needed.

He's just someone who's trying to use "OMG it's illegal!" talk so that he sounds more logical. Pro-lifers often use meandering legal tactics since making something inconvenient is much easier than making it illegal.

His incessant commenting makes me want to scream.

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Every time someone has asked him to cite the specific law, he ignores them. I think he's of the "you know you've won when he stops responding" variety.

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[info]gweniveeve
2005-05-03 08:24 pm UTC (link)
Probably because he's taking "illegal without a prescription" to mean "you have to REALLY NEED IT RIGHT THEN or it's an ILLEGAL prescription!!" My favorite parts are where he makes analogies about EC being like morphine and antibiotics, yet he says it's NOT like having an inhaler on hand in case you have an asthma attack.


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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-03 09:36 pm UTC (link)
I mean... he seems to be ignoring the fact that you can't just write prescriptions for morphine because it's incredibly addictive. And you can't just write prescriptions for antibiotics because then people will misuse them and we'll end up with Super!Bacteria strains taking over the world.

And... yeah. [brain explodes]

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-09 02:45 pm UTC (link)
thus why I want teleportation powers.

there would be this wave of unexplainable deaths/murders of these people :D

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[info]teratologist
2005-05-03 11:21 pm UTC (link)
I love the whole "accesible birth control makes men disrespect women" line. Because before birth control? The world was a veritable paradise of female-respecting. That's why there were no illegal abortions or baby farms or Magdalene workhouses or foundling homes.

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[info]rosehiptea
2005-05-04 05:11 am UTC (link)
Oh word.

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[info]backfromspace
2005-05-04 12:09 am UTC (link)
What? Women are things.

I love it when crazy rightwingers respond to abortion debates by insisting it will lead to rampant anonymous sex. Repression, yay.

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[info]necronomist
2005-05-04 01:54 am UTC (link)
"I love it when crazy rightwingers respond to abortion debates by insisting it will lead to rampant anonymous sex."

I think they are telling on themselves than anything else. They really believe that if people are allowed to have sex without reproduction, that they will gorge on it like it's going out of style. Much how like anorexics are afraid if they start eating again, they will never stop.

They don't trust other people's small still voices and figure they have to be the big obnoxious voice telling how it must be.


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[info]backfromspace
2005-05-04 06:27 am UTC (link)
Yes, exactly.

And you know the South would be just one big orgy if it weren't for all those prolifers keeping everyone to the straight and narrow. God only knows how the rest of the world doesn't just fuck itself into oblivion.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-05 03:47 pm UTC (link)
bambanek: Maybe, but I guarantee my method will have women not being used as sex toys.

Why do you believe that women are worth nothing more that a recepticle of some random men's sperm? I guess maybe I have more respect for the equality and dignity of women then that.

I think you have it backward, sir. I want birth control so that I can use men as sex toys. Naughty, dirty toys that need to be punished, yesssss punished, and deprived of their equality and dignity like the filthy little beasts they are. Beasts! Beasts! And then I'll ride them, like the--

...Er, sorry, was that outside voice?

-- Issendai

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[info]the_clansmen
2005-05-05 06:51 pm UTC (link)
XD XD Marry me?

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-06 04:34 am UTC (link)
You have "babies falling into volcanoes" as an interest. I find you worthy.

-- Issendai

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