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A pipe? No! ([info]also_not_a_pipe) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-05-16 03:17:00


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Seeing as we don't have a wtf_wank...
I was unwise earlier and delved into the Jack forums to see if anyone else was confused as to exactly what the hell was going on in the last strip. For those who aren't familiar with it, Jack takes a strong stomach to read. A furry comic with some damn cool characters and interesting ideas, but graphic physical violence and sexual content, frequent reference to sexual violence, some dark storylines, and a lot of generally really disturbing stuff running around. Basically one of those things that you don't touch unless you're unsquickable and have no trauma in your past. Even then, take it in small doses or your brain will melt right out of your ears.

And if you think that's bad, you should see the forums.

For example, one of the posters posts in the forums for help with amoral dilemma: "Hey, should I take sexual advantage of these two young teenagers if I'm in my mid-twenties and they're really hot?"

The common sense answer would be "FUCK NO (or rather, "no fuck"), run far and fast" right?

You'd be surprised. Dreyfuss, the first poster to answer says more or less, "D00d, what's the problem exactly?" And also whines because this post is distracting attention from his incredibly long piece of spooge where he wangsts about being unsure whether he should go stalk the girl he's creepily obsessed with.

Most of the other posters are a little less creepy and a little more reasonable and tell the OP that Dreyfuss is a moron, and they're more 'leeter than him because they can't feel romantic love. No, really. They do. They also make a big deal about how he should wait until the girls are eighteen before he messes with them, but they're dirty little sluts if they don't wait the two years to have him as their firsts.

On the second page, after some fairly dull discussion about the compatability of love and sex, Dreyfuss is offended that a gay American would *gasp!* support laws to protect young girls from creeps like Dreyfuss. 'cos, like, pedophiles and gay people are all the same and they need to hang together to stick it up to the Man. Or something.

One of them offers the priceless support Remember that scene at the end of Predator where Schwarzenegger is all covered in mud and yelling at the alien to come and get him and the Predator stops for a second thinking the whole thing is fishy before noticing the spike trap? That Predator is you.

Yes, dear. Yes it is.

The third page is boring until rkolter starts making up stories about how if one of them was his daughter, he'd shoot the OP in the head and then only get two years in jail. And then fly away on a magical winged horse to Sugarcandy Mountain, where he would be crowned king of the pixies. Which, really, is just as likely.

Then Dreyfuss shows up yet again to squawk about rape is OMG wrong, but statutory rape isn't rape because what if they're in luv, huh? What about that? Dreyfuss, dear, let me introduce me to Mr. Nabokov's friend Humbert Humbert. Why don't you two go have a nice chat?

There's los of annoying banter, then Reyadel Someoneorother shows up to advocate that age of consent laws be thrown out in favor of case-by-case inspection. Because in his world, the iJudge has already been invented and is running on a spankin' new Tiger OS.

Then someone someone getting offended about the whole mature minor vs. immature adult issue turns the whole thing into a bonus Clinton wank. At this point, I stop reading and go take a long, hot shower where I do not once look down.


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[info]sepiamagpie
2005-05-16 08:30 am UTC (link)
I've been afraid to look at the Jack forums. I love the comic but I can't escape the nagging thought that someone, somewhere, is getting off on it and wants to tell the world.

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[info]loony666
2005-05-16 08:40 am UTC (link)
I love the guy who thinks there's time, money and motivation to judge every single statatorial rape case ever. That's so cute.

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ataniell93
2005-05-17 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Er, actually they do judge them. They don't just throw people in jail because somebody said there was underage sex.

If there were no age of consent laws, there would be no law to judge them on.

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[info]loony666
2005-05-17 10:41 pm UTC (link)
Right, but what I meant was... aw, screw it. *feels dumb*

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-17 11:49 pm UTC (link)
You meant "judge" as in "review each and every case individually focusing on the circumstances, the participants' mental maturity, etc., instead of, as with the age-of-consent laws, following the underage sex=crime=arrest&prosecution procedure", right?

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[info]loony666
2005-05-18 03:34 am UTC (link)
*nods*

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[info]cellardoor28
2005-05-16 10:14 am UTC (link)
Oh god, why am I not surprised? I used to post on the forums when Jack was on Keenspot (when the forums were, you know, working, and not down) but I havent been arsed ever since I discovered there was an LJ feed and I could get the comiccy goodness without having to drown in wank. well, apart from when Drip is feeling particularly frustrated...

Much safer to play in the Vinci and Artie forums. No wank there.

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Re: *stares in awe*
[info]suzycat
2005-05-17 12:32 pm UTC (link)
In fact, they would actively dislike the experience but do it anyway. For the good of the kids. Those sainted chaps.

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing?
[info]bubosquared
2005-05-16 01:00 pm UTC (link)
What about a sexual dillamma? Can I have one of those?

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing?
[info]bubosquared
2005-05-16 01:15 pm UTC (link)
I wasn't saying, I was dillemning. :D

(I love the English language. Verbing nouns is FUN!)

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing?
[info]ecchaniz0r
2005-05-16 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Verbing weirds language :D

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing? - [info]aerobot, 2005-05-17 01:06 pm UTC
Re: What do you call your laptop crashing?
[info]lurker32
2005-05-16 04:55 pm UTC (link)
DAMN IT, I just got that song out of my head!

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing? - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-05-16 07:34 pm UTC

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Re: What do you call your laptop crashing? - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-05-16 10:24 pm UTC

[info]shoiryu
2005-05-16 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Dreyfuss says: "Devil's advocate? I AM the devil, girl."

LOOOOOOOOL

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[info]miss_kitten
2005-05-16 04:06 pm UTC (link)
From The Dreyfuss Wangst Retrospective:

Online I was a bit of a pimp before I met Cassie.

*dies*

And I'm Jenna Jameson. Don't sprain your hand; sock jerks can be dangerous.

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Funniest thing ever written
[info]tiki
2005-05-16 11:52 pm UTC (link)
Online I was a bit of a pimp

Beautiful in its perfection.

Online I was a bit of a pimp

I love this phrase. I do I do I do.

Online I was a bit of a pimp

*gazes lovingly at phrase*

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Re: Funniest thing ever written
[info]necronomist
2005-05-17 01:34 am UTC (link)
Then you'll love my icon.

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Re: Funniest thing ever written
[info]tiki
2005-05-17 02:48 am UTC (link)
Indeed, it is glorious.

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Re: Funniest thing ever written
[info]erototoxin
2005-05-18 08:01 am UTC (link)
Online, nobody knows that bit of a pimp's a dog.

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[info]fiatincantatum
2005-05-16 04:39 pm UTC (link)
amoral dilemma

Best typo ever!

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[info]lurker32
2005-05-16 04:56 pm UTC (link)
they're more 'leeter than him because they can't feel romantic love.

What are these guys, seventeen?

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[info]supertetris
2005-05-16 04:57 pm UTC (link)
"Now, I'm only partially saying this because I'm a colossal pervert and closet pedophile."

BYE GIRL. You lose all rights in regards to giving advice. Forever.

"If you refuse them, they'll probably go after someone easier"

Yes, of course. You should obviously have sex with them because if you don't, they'll just go have sex with someone their own age. That would be "throwing them to the wolves" apparently. *puke*

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[info]somnambulicious
2005-05-16 05:34 pm UTC (link)
"If you refuse them, they'll probably go after someone easier"

That has to be the most fucked-up version of "Won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN???" ever.

...why, no, I don't want to see examples of even more fucked-up versions. *wants desperately to be sheltered*

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/cackle
[info]supertetris
2005-05-16 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children? You think of them...naked.

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Re: /cackle
[info]electricchick
2005-05-17 12:08 am UTC (link)
In Soviet Russia, firearms stockpile YOU!

...I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. xD

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[info]kookaburra
2005-05-16 11:19 pm UTC (link)
I'm boggling that Dreyfuss managed to call himself "straightedge" without the slightest hint of irony.

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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-05-16 11:24 pm UTC (link)
Drey: I'm actually of the opinion that the age of consent should be 16.
Younger than that though, and you're either a scumbag or Japanese.


...

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Re: ...
[info]chash
2005-05-17 12:52 am UTC (link)
Can't I be both?

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Re: ...
[info]birene
2005-05-17 11:32 am UTC (link)
Erm, Japan is hardly the only country with an age of conset below 16. Maybe those states should form the SCUMBAG union or something?

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Re: ...
[info]monkeywrench
2005-05-18 03:00 am UTC (link)
Argentina is, like, the scumbaggiest scumbag that ever scumbagged. Unless they're secretly Japanese too.

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Re: ...
[info]loony666
2005-05-18 03:38 am UTC (link)
Because we all know that at the exact age of 16 everybody magically becomes mature enough to handle sex, STIs/STDs, pregnancy and the affect or lack thereof that sex may have on a relationship.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-17 02:04 am UTC (link)
In all fairness, the OP comes off as a reasonable and conflicted young man who's being hit on by a couple of girls who are way too young for him. Given that they're the ones asking to sleep with him and blowing off his concerns that it's a bad idea, I'm inclined to think that he's not such a bad egg.

(The rest of the thread was tl;dr, so I didn't see any later posts the OP made.)

Dreyfuss, OTOH... Yikes. "I adore this girl. Here's her real name, her embarrassing life story, the best way to find her online, a couple of pictures of her, and a heartfelt private email that she wrote me. How do I get her back?" Buddy, if there's justice in the world, YOU DON'T.

Now go learn what "privacy" means.

-- Issendai

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[info]mastervex
2005-05-17 02:11 am UTC (link)
Ignored wank. Started reading comic. Brain leaking out ears now. The crappy cutesie generic furry art combined with the blood and guts and rape and death and depressingness and semi-Christian mythology is weirding me out, bad. And I can't stop reading because the story and characters are good. Dammit.

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[info]electricchick
2005-05-18 09:18 pm UTC (link)
I know. One strip is all about Fnar, the cutest thing ever, and the next is all about evisceration. It's the most bipolar comic strip I have ever read.

And I can't stop reading.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-25 05:09 pm UTC (link)
See, I stopped at "crappy furry art". Weasels don't get to be angsty, sorry.

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[info]ignatius
2005-05-17 03:39 am UTC (link)
Wait, so what *is* going on in the latest strip? Did you ever find out?

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2005-05-17 06:39 am UTC (link)
Not so much, no. I get that Jack and Drip are probably talking about Farrago as much as about Arloest. But what's confusing me is tha t dude, if Drip was beheaded a couple of strips ago, how is he talking at all? And if it's just his head in the shadows on the ground, where is that head coming from?

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[info]drazzi
2005-05-17 08:08 am UTC (link)
Well, he's already dead, where was he gonna go? Detroit? and a sin. I think he could regenerate back together at some point in Hell.

Kind of like the "when you behead a sin they return to Hell" rule.

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2005-05-17 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Well, sure, I figured that he would probably be back in commission at some point. Just not so soon after the sort of trashing he took from Jack. The way that arc had been playing out up until then, I'd expected it to be more serious than a "right, five minutes in the penalty box" kind of thing.

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(no subject) - [info]drazzi, 2005-05-17 04:36 pm UTC

[info]also_not_a_pipe
2005-05-17 04:28 pm UTC (link)

And if it's just his head in the shadows on the ground, where is that head coming from?

Where is the hand in a few of the panels coming from, Lord. No internets after midnight for me. I turn into an idiot.

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[info]gorogoro
2005-05-17 06:44 am UTC (link)
But, let us not forget the most notable reason for mid-twenty-somethings to not boink teenagers: because teens are annoying little shits.

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[info]prettyveela
2005-05-17 12:02 pm UTC (link)
*blink*

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ataniell93
2005-05-17 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Huh. One of the girls is 16. That's actually legal in a lot of places.

I don't think 15 is legal outside of Canada, though it might be in Louisiana.

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[info]cpip
2005-05-17 08:54 pm UTC (link)
A quick Googling suggests that 15 is the age-of-consent in a number of European countries, actually. I may be wrong.

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ataniell93
2005-05-17 09:00 pm UTC (link)
For some reason though I had the impression that the yahoos in question were Amurrican, or at least North American.

In Japan I think it's even lower. Camilla would know.

Just, when I read "young teenagers" above I was thinking 13-14, not people the age that I was when I started having sex.

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[info]birene
2005-05-17 10:48 pm UTC (link)
15 is pretty much the average here (= EU). After the Osterweiterung the average actually went up from 15,1 to 15,3 I think, not because of the eastern countries, but because of the "tourist islands" Cyprus and Malta which have the highest age of consent overall, 18. Spain has the lowest at 13, now. (Pushed up from 12 after some child prostitution scandal)

But yeah, the OP is very likely American, where the lowest is 16 I think.

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