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the_wanlorn ([info]the_wanlorn) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-06-10 12:39:00


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Current mood:*Snarl*
Current music:Counting Crows - Mr. Jones

It isn't racism if it's from a minority!
Here we have some more DebunkingWhite wank. Dohnut makes a post about interracial relationships. It's also crossposted to his journal and, in a slightly different form, to Militant_Asians. Some of the comments on both posts are referring back to comments in DebunkingWhite.

White men who really understand the hateful, destructive messages sent out by white men/Asian female relationships don't date Asian females.

White women who really understand the hateful, destructive messages sent out by black men/white females relationships don't date black males.

This applies across the board for any and all interracial relationships between a white person and a "poc."


There's a lot from all sides. People agreeing, people telling the OP that hesheit is an idiot, people agreeing with some of it and disagreeing with the rest.

I think that BlackPerson sums it up perfectly: "Please tell me this is a joke. You're shitting me, right?"

The only person who mentions it outside of that post (in a public post, at least) is MissRuckus, here and here.

It's a lot of tl;dr from all sides on a fairly touchy subject (<-- totally trying to excuse myself from not nabbing choice quotes here, since the whole thing pisses me off). Interestingly enough, Dohnut doesn't once reply. It's mostly wanking and discussion from the rest of the community.


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[info]phosfate
2005-06-10 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Jesus H. Krishna.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2005-06-10 06:31 pm UTC (link)
What a racist fuckhead.

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tourette
2005-06-10 06:34 pm UTC (link)
And here's me thinking these non-white individuals were capable of making their own decisions about relationships, without having to go with whatever white people wanted. As the last post there when I looked said, Asian men telling Asian women who they can and cannot sleep with isn't exactly displaying respect or empowering them. It's true that they might wind up shagging a creep, but so might anyone.

As for white women with black men, I am suddenly reminded of a newspaper column I read a couple of years back which said that white women going out with black men was a sign of Empowerment, but white men sleeping with black women was exactly what slave traders used to do, and therefore blatant racism. Good grief.

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(Anonymous)
2005-06-10 06:40 pm UTC (link)
[info]debunkingwhite: so spoogey it could start its own sperm bank.

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[info]smo
2005-06-10 06:48 pm UTC (link)
*ex dee ell oh ell*

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Totally OT - [info]melancthe, 2005-06-10 08:27 pm UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:30 pm UTC

[info]marlo
2005-06-10 08:00 pm UTC (link)
so true. I read a bunch of stuff over there yesterday, and then got really bummed.

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[info]kadath
2005-06-10 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Shit! If I wanted to hook up with my smart, funny, really cute coworker who happens to have sub-Saharan ancestors, I couldn't? Someone hand me the White Guilt Checklist; I can't keep up on my own anymore. This means I have to stop thinking Tony Leung is a total hottie, too, doesn't it? Dammit!

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[info]smo
2005-06-10 06:47 pm UTC (link)
This means I have to stop thinking Tony Leung is a total hottie, too, doesn't it?

And I have to do the same for Daniel Dae Kim. Woe!

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(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 06:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 06:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 07:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 08:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 08:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-06-10 08:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-06-10 08:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 08:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-06-10 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-06-10 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-06-10 08:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-06-10 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2005-06-11 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ourself, 2005-06-11 09:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-06-10 08:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-06-11 05:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tetsuki, 2005-06-11 03:31 am UTC
According to my parents... - [info]monkeywrench, 2005-06-12 11:22 am UTC

[info]telophase
2005-06-10 08:32 pm UTC (link)
*hides large amount of Asian manflesh photos sent to her by [info]homasse*

Are we allowed to obsess over like them if they're fictional non-white characters?



reposted ... with correct HTML!

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 08:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 09:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 09:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 09:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-11 06:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-06-12 03:51 am UTC

flightstothesea
2005-06-11 11:14 am UTC (link)
What, no love for B.D. Wong? Heathens.

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(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-06-12 12:05 am UTC

[info]smo
2005-06-10 06:46 pm UTC (link)
It took me about five minutes to figure out what a "poc" was. o_O

Alas for the OP, I cannot take seriously the opinion of someone who substitutes "u" for "you" without a trace of irony.

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[info]marlo
2005-06-10 08:02 pm UTC (link)
yeah, the first time I read it I totally thought they were talking about Pirates of the Caribbean.
Only for like three seconds, though. ;)

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-06-10 10:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-06-10 11:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-11 06:19 am UTC

[info]sarracenia
2005-06-10 06:59 pm UTC (link)
...So, when I declared my intent to marry my best friend (who was a black guy) back in kindergarten, I was exercising white privilege and am therefore racist?

The things I never knew. So, is a white woman dating an Asian guy racist? What about Indian? Native American? Middle Eastern? Really, he needs to explain more. I don't want to be racist by accident, after all.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-06-10 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Haven't you heard? We're white! Therefore we can't not be racist!

>_

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(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-06-10 07:12 pm UTC

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Belated comment - (Anonymous), 2005-06-16 11:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pepperlandgirl4, 2005-06-10 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthfi, 2005-06-10 09:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 10:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthfi, 2005-06-10 10:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2005-06-11 04:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2005-06-11 06:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2005-06-12 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenglass, 2005-06-13 04:45 pm UTC

[info]darkrose
2005-06-10 07:30 pm UTC (link)
*snicker*

I saw so much of that particular brand of whining when I was at Stanford. It has nothing to do with political consciousness and everything to do with Asian guys being grumpy because they're not getting laid as much as they think they should be.

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 08:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-06-10 08:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-10 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2005-06-10 08:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-06-12 03:42 am UTC

[info]lurker32
2005-06-10 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I think [info]hadiya wins.

i think i need a new icon.
it should spoof scary movie.
and it should say...

i eat...
WHITE PEOPLE!


Caucasians: The Other White Meat. :D

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-10 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-06-10 10:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-11 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-06-11 06:17 am UTC

[info]feloniousfeline
2005-06-10 08:45 pm UTC (link)
White women who really understand the hateful, destructive messages sent out by black men/white females relationships don't date black males.

I'd love to see this idiot say this sort of thing to my sister.

Jackass: OMG! You've dated black men and had the nerve to have children with them! You're being destructive!

Sister: No, fucker. *punches Jackass repeatedly in the head* NOW I'm being destructive.

*sighs* My sister has no sense of humor.

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(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-06-10 09:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]feloniousfeline, 2005-06-10 10:13 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-06-10 09:57 pm UTC (link)
not about your post, but I have to point this out to someone:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/rupiconic/2706.html

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(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-06-10 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]walkingundine, 2005-06-10 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-06-10 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]walkingundine, 2005-06-10 10:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-11 12:10 am UTC

[info]mastervex
2005-06-10 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Wow. He really needs to STFU.
I mean, it bugs me when people say they're only attracted to whatever race, because usually they have some painfully dumbshit stereotype-based logic behind it, and make anybody unfortunate and clueless enough to date them miserable. But that there is just fucking idiotic shit.
Also, question. What happens if the black guy and the asian girl happen to skip the white people and date each other? Is that ok, or does that raise a whole new set of problems or something? Just curious.
And isn't it kinda racist to assume that nonwhites could not possibly choose to date anybody white because they're honestly attracted to them, care about them, have a lot in common, etc....they only ever date white people because of self-hate? I think it's pretty fucked up to say that because you are a certain race you are not capable of properly making your own damn choice of who to love. It's racist to assume that nobody white could ever be honestly attracted to and care about someone nonwhite, too.
And who are interracial people supposed to be allowed to date?
Fuck you lots, dohnut, and not in the good way.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-06-10 10:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-06-11 03:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-06-11 03:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-06-11 03:26 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-06-11 12:12 am UTC (link)
Me=Asian-American.

Ex-boyfriend=white, had a bit of an Asian fetish. Could be a little irritating at times.

Husband=white, loves me for me and loves that people can't figure out what ethnicity I am, either.

Exactly what destructive message are we sending out these days? (Besides the "taking over the world" one, of course.)

eisoj5@lj

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[info]isntitironic
2005-06-11 03:47 am UTC (link)
I want to ask him if this applies to homosexual relationships, too. But I worry about his answer making my head explode.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-11 08:58 am UTC

[info]eljuno
2005-06-11 08:22 am UTC (link)
So...as someone who's almost half Cherokee, but looks like the whitest white boy who ever whited (seriously, blond, blue eyes, complete inability to tan...if I didn't have EXACTLY THE SAME FACE as my father, we'd be giving sidelong glances to the mailman) am I selling out by dating white people or people of colour?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-11 09:16 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-06-11 08:55 am UTC (link)
Damn it, I apologize to that funny, witty hottie in poetry club, because I'm a racist on the inside. I didn't realize I only liked him because he was black and not a cool guy or anything.

Unless my Algonquin blood cancels it out, since I know the rest of my blood isn't helping -- what can I say, I'm pretty sure my Jewishness is too busy stealing this fucker's money.

- Felinephoenix

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[info]heddychaa
2005-06-11 11:31 am UTC (link)
as someone who is the white participant in an interracial relationship with an asian guy, I must say I kind of feel ripped off that I can't come up with a witty response to this.

how lame.

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(no subject) - [info]msmanna, 2005-06-11 09:59 pm UTC

[info]necronomist
2005-06-13 01:03 am UTC (link)
My long distance SO is half-Chinese. That means I'm half oppressing him by having a relationship, right?


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