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Del ([info]big_bad_wolf) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-07-02 10:31:00
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A brief but bitter gripe about whether apologising for lewd behaviour in a Pride Parade is really necessary: here.


I suck at wank reporting. Can someone give me lessons?

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[info]princessdot
2005-07-02 11:34 am UTC (link)
Meh, saw that. While I weigh in the to each hir own camp I also am firmly in the will you LEAVE your damn pda's at home! side. Don't care who you're groping, just do it on your own time. 'sides, I thought the OP's response wasn't all that "omg mea culpa for being gay!".

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-02 11:44 am UTC (link)
I tend to come down on the side of "kissing fine, all other activities perhaps NOT in the middle of the street" regardless of the couple as well.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-03 10:36 am UTC (link)
I'd like to put some restrictions on the kissing, as well. For example, if his spit is DRIBBLING DOWN HER CHIN, that's NOT something I need to be seeing before I've even had coffee, THANK YOU TEENAGED COUPLE ON THE BACK SEAT OF THE BUS!

Ugh.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-03 11:06 am UTC (link)
Eww, that poor girl. You should have leapt in and rescued her. "Hello, darling, I am a billions times better at kissing than this loser and I'm probably better in bed too..."

Also there needs to be a cattle-prod available to poke people who think they're being subtle about sticking their hands down their boyfriend's trousers. Vomflash! You most certainly are not being subtle. Stop it.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-03 05:26 pm UTC (link)
Wel,l she was one f those vapid blonde girls. Also, sixteen. And I had a gf at the time. :/ But yeah, seriously, that was just ... ew. I kept wanting to offer her a bib or something.

Dude. Word. Like, just because you're on the back seat of the bus doesn't mean we can't ALL SEE YOU ON THE CCTV SYSTEM YOU TWITS!

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-03 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Ah, yes, the CCTV on buses. What a genius plan that was. Now they cn record chavs rutting on nightbuses and sell it to other chavs as "amateur porn".

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 02:12 pm UTC (link)
Snarf! So true, so true. (Well, except they're called "neds" over here.) Although I wouldn't want to watch said porn, because SO MUCH PINK! Is that a Scottish thing, or a UK thing? Because I have NEVER seen this much pink before I came over here. o_O

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 02:46 pm UTC (link)
Unless that's those horrid baby pink jogging suits that the female of the species feels it necessary to wear [presumably in preparation for imminent pregnancy] then I'm guessing it's a Scotland thing. London hasn't been particularly overwhelming with the pink on buses/chavs of late. We're still being gripped by the Burberry craze. I saw a homeless guy wearing a Burberry cap outside Finsbury Park on Friday. WTF is all that about, anyway? BEIGE TARTAN. There are no words.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 02:59 pm UTC (link)
The track suits, but shirts, skirts, boots, ANYTHING as well. Especially on girls under twelve, basically Ned's Daughters, but even the woman across the hall from me, who is not Neddish at all, and I've had to dub her kid Frighteningly Pink Girl because in the more than three months I've lived here, I've never seen this girl wear anything but pink and white. And I see girls like that EVERYWHERE!*scared*

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 03:19 pm UTC (link)
On the other hand, it presumably makes you easy to spot in a crowd. "Ah, look. The girl wearing black. And blue. And things which aren't pink."

At least we get the baby blue tracksuit types here as well.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 03:27 pm UTC (link)
True, that. "Look for the black and dark blue spot in the sea of pink. I'll be the one with the crew cut and the 'Help, save me before I'm assimilated!' look."

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 03:36 pm UTC (link)
Awww, I feel compelled to point you in the direction of the Scots contingent of the V for sane conversation and Non-Ned humans.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 03:39 pm UTC (link)
The V? What's that?

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 03:45 pm UTC (link)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/insultloki - forum nominally for the discussion of comics, tv, films, music and news, and incidentally a great source of flamewars and wank when someone decides they don't like the critical nature of the conversations and goes batshit. Reasonable proportion of the members live in Edinburgh and Glasgow, and most weeks V members end up in some pub or other in order to carry the conversations back over into real life. Sort of like social therapy for chronic nerds, and it keeps me occupied at work.

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 03:47 pm UTC (link)
Ooooh! *bookmark*Not something to get involved in until the recent spate of G8-related flamewars are off my own flist at least, but definitely something to come back to. Thanks! :D

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 03:51 pm UTC (link)
Not something to get involved in until the recent spate of G8-related flamewars are off my own flist at least

And why hasn't there been a wankreport for that, eh? EH?


*g*

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 03:54 pm UTC (link)
Because I'm in hiding until the whole thing blows over lest I end up either screaming at certain people or bawling and calling my parents in the middle of the night? :/ (I, er, get emotional about these things. This has not been a good time for some of my friendships, sigh.)

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Eeep. Sorry! It sounds unnecessarily drastic - this is *all* about the G8 thing?

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[info]bubosquared
2005-07-04 04:03 pm UTC (link)
Mostly about people's reactions to it. On the one hand, I feel like half the city is overreacting to the "danger" the protesters pose and I keep wanting to roll my eyes at them, and on the other hand, the people who insist on being cynical about the causes being protested for are making me want to scream and cry and throw things. :/

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Ah, so, the usual response, then. Bletch. You think people'd never seen protests before, though - there seems to be one huge protest march a week here and nothing gets broken and relatively few people get hurt (I got a bit of a twisted wrist by an over-enthusiatic Met officer a few years ago at May-Day, but that doesn't really count).

Sorry people are being numpties about it. My flist have barely mentioned a thing. It's quite odd.

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[info]cat_mcdougall
2005-07-02 01:16 pm UTC (link)
That... I've taken my four children to Pride parades. My elder brother has walked in the Pride Parades.

Are we missing something? Because we haven't ever seen something like that. I'm all for the "to each their own" but... There's something called good taste some people need to learn it.

But seriously. Leave that stuff at home folks. Don't want to see it.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-02 01:42 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I've ever seen anything like that at a Pride Parade, either. In fact, the only place I've seen stimulated sex acts is in a night club, and those were straight couples ...

Feh. Obviously we're going to different Pride Parades. I can never see ANYTHING at the ones I've been to anyway because it's always so crowded. Stupid Soho and its narrow streets ...

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[info]cat_mcdougall
2005-07-02 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Heh ours were in Erie PA and one in Cleveland, OH (we live equidistant between the two).

Ours aren't as crowded as some get... but I can imagine we don't see everything that goes on. Just, good taste and common sense. They're going out of style apparently.

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[info]25th_of_april
2005-07-02 04:17 pm UTC (link)
I've been to one Pride parade and it was 90 degrees and sunny. Most of the couples I saw were too hot and sweaty to even hold hands, much less simulate sex.

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[info]iczer6
2005-07-02 09:37 pm UTC (link)
I doubt that any of this actually happened. The letter that sparked this was riddled with misspellings and written entirely in capslock, it quite honestly looked like a troll post on LJ.

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[info]teratologist
2005-07-02 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Maybe I'm just oblivious, but I tend not to get too bothered by anything people do so long as they don't get any actual body fluids on me.

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ataniell93
2005-07-05 11:46 pm UTC (link)
I might be bothered. Or turned on. Except I never ever notice. I'm always the person who's like, "What? Really? They were? Are you sure? No way, I didn't see that!"

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[info]platedlizard
2005-07-06 07:28 am UTC (link)
That's one thing I miss about working at the zoo, the 14 year old boys going at it in the bushes. Only NOT.

Well, that, and the fact that a bull elephant in musth smells EXACTLY like someone smoking pot, especially the young bulls. I couldn't believe the number of complaints we got about that.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-06 09:13 am UTC (link)
the 14 year old boys going at it in the bushes.

...

I'll be in my bunk.

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[info]erototoxin
2005-07-02 07:43 pm UTC (link)
However, if there was a whole lot of nudity and drug use (like the one in Seattle, but I guess the drug use is expected as it IS Seattle (I miss my dirty hippies!)), maybe hold off on that.

Hey, we had nudity at our Pride parade (yay naked bicyclists in body paint left over from the Solstice parade the week before!), but I certainly didn't see any drug use...

Public nudity in parades is the norm here. Lots of parents bring their kids to the Solstice parade, where there are DOZENS of naked bicyclists, and it's very much a family event (just not for prudish families). And there are always at least a few topless Dykes on Bikes at Pride.

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[info]cairea
2005-07-02 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Generally the drug users here can't be arsed to get themselves out to a Pride parade in the first place, so if there was any drug use it was probably totally accidental.

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[info]kookaburra
2005-07-03 12:10 am UTC (link)
Hey, do what ever you want with whomever you want, just so long as you don't do it in the street and scare the horses.

Though, I do have to say, the Pride parades I've seen snippets of (and, admittedly, those have all been on the news) seem to be "hot bodies on parade" sort of things, which in my mind is in very questionable taste. As is declaring one's sexuality to random strangers, but that goes for people of all orientations.

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[info]jess_d_ripper
2005-07-03 01:13 am UTC (link)
"As is declaring one's sexuality to random strangers, but that goes for people of all orientations."

What exactly do you mean by that?

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[info]kookaburra
2005-07-03 01:36 am UTC (link)
That declaring intimate details about oneself to persons with whom one is not intimate is perhaps not quite prudent.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-03 01:52 am UTC (link)
Assuming that anyone wants to know who you're intending to fuck is vain, IMHO. There you go.

On the other hand, if I think it's going to upset people then fuck them, I'll tell them I fuck babies.

I just read twelve pages of anonymous hate comments and I think it's robbed me of my ability to be nice...

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[info]kookaburra
2005-07-03 03:32 am UTC (link)
Oh, well, I do hope that your method yields the social results you wish for.

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[info]jess_d_ripper
2005-07-03 02:24 am UTC (link)
I guess I was wondering what you consider a declaration of one's sexuality in front of strangers. Is a parade a declaration, is holding hands or kissing your partner a declaration? I don't really consider "I'm straight" or "I'm gay" to be an intimate detail, but if you're talking about the sort of people who share the full blown particulars of their sex lives with people they barely know, then I agree. If I don't know your name, I don't really need to know how hard you were spanked last night.

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[info]kookaburra
2005-07-03 03:27 am UTC (link)
Ah. I do consider my orientation an intimate detail, and non-intimates who ask questions about it get a cold stare and a shoulder to talk to. Holding hands and kissing a partner is not a declaration- people may infer from it what they wish, as long as they keep that intimate detail to themselves as well.

However, I should say that in all this, the thing I question the most is the amusement park that allowed a "celebration of sexuality" to go on in a public part of the park during peak hours without warning their guests. If I was the offended mother, I would have written to the park, expressing my deep regret that I would no longer be able to take my family to the park because one could never be sure when one's access to areas would be restricted simply because one did not feel right barging in on other patrons celebrating their sexuality. I think this would alert the park officials that perhaps they should practice more discernment in who they let celebrate where and when. Note: 1)This would then not condemn the acts themselves, only the appropriateness of the venue, 2) I'm basing my hypothetical actions on what was said in the original thread, and 3) your last line made me giggle like a school girl being spanked

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[info]kookaburra
2005-07-03 03:38 am UTC (link)
Oh, and also, if I had been the mother, I would not have dropped my 11 year old daughter off at a large, public venue unattended- that part made my jaw drop.

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[info]fandom_bitch
2005-07-03 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Heh, I've been to Pride Day Parades in Vancouver, BC and Toronto, ON and have seen it all. Both parades have "cleaned up" in past years because of complaints but there's still nudity which isn't a biggie (well, I'm not sure about the Toronto parades since I live in Vancouver now).

Overall they're fun parties. I'm not a terribly open person with affections (holding hands in public is not even something I like to do), but I'm no prude, just a very private person with displays of public affection. I take others' public displays with a grain of salt, but I do think it's more appropriate to keep it private.

I didn't see anything wrong with the OP's response to the letter. The fact that buddy got all offended over it was just too much, and deleting all his posts after a certain point really just made him look like a huge ass. If you can't handle the heat...

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[info]monkeywrench
2005-07-04 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Well, personally, if I want my child to see simulated gay sex acts, I'd make sure s/he watch simulated gay sex acts done by Ewan McGregor and Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 01:25 pm UTC (link)
VELVET GOLDMINE FANS REPRESENT.

Er, *cough*.

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[info]goblin
2005-07-04 09:36 pm UTC (link)
In my heart of hearts, I still pray that the aforementioned sex acts were not "simulated."

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2005-07-04 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Well, you know what a tart Ewan is. *also prays*

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