krazycat
2005-07-31 05:11 pm UTC (link)

*scratches head* Since when does non-alcoholic beer has alcohol in it? I mean, wouldn't it be called low-alcoholic beer in that case? I'm pretty sure non-alcoholic beer over here does in fact not have any alcohol in it. And to think that some people might actually enjoy the taste of alcohol.. and not see the drink as a pathway to being drunk..

And wow, edge is rough. You make a mistake, and you're out forever?
Really? I'm not knocking the lifestyle (all for it, but not for me), but that seems a bit harsh to me.

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	ataniell93 2005-07-31 06:20 pm UTC (link)
	Non-alcoholic beer really isn't. Technically it IS called low-alcohol beer. Ugh ugh ugh. It's nasty. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	april_hurst 2005-07-31 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah. They're typically around 1 proof, or 0.5% alcohol. A 12-ounce bottle has about 1.7g of alcohol. Compare a dose of NyQuil (3g) or a normal beer (14g). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	greenling 2005-07-31 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	Wait... does that mean if you take NyQuil, they'll kick you out of their little club? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

tourette
2005-07-31 11:45 pm UTC (link)

I have heard of some straight-edgers that wouldn't even use prescribed or medicinal drugs unless it was an absolute emergency. Swearing off even things like asprin. As a matter of fact, that same community has a rather wanky discussion on antidepressants in the archives (maybe I should go and dig it out) in which I learnt that taking such medication is indicative of a "weakness" and that any emotional problem is easily overcome by, oh, probably the macho mosh-power of EDGE, in allcaps. Mind you, some people disagreed, and there was arguing. There seems to be a lot of that kind of thing round there.

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	keri 2005-08-01 02:37 am UTC (link)
	Yes, dig it out, please. Straight edgers are wack. I want to laugh. Please. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tourette 2005-08-01 10:16 am UTC (link)
	Here. From May, and CeruleanSwirl seems to be causing all the wangst there. Maybe not so wanky as I remember, but nevertheless... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ataniell93 2005-07-31 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	I'm confused. The FAQ says if you slip up, just get back on the edge, but the posters are all saying if you slip up you can never be edge again. That would mean that you might already be ineligible before you ever hear of the possibility...? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	toasterkitten 2005-07-31 06:20 pm UTC (link)
	it's just like backsliding in religion! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	toasterkitten 2005-07-31 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	ugh. straightedge really annoys me. "hey guess what i am so elitist that i am going to join a social group based on what we don't do" (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mooncalf 2005-07-31 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	joins a social group based on not* overdosing on Vitamin A until she turns orange* Man! That was easy! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	toasterkitten 2005-08-01 12:35 am UTC (link)
	dude no, you have to join my anti-uranium eaters club! it is so keen. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mooncalf 2005-08-01 12:48 am UTC (link)
	Well, hey, I got two hands, I can just write A on on and U on the other, huh? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	toasterkitten 2005-08-01 04:24 am UTC (link)
	ha ha ha! what, you don't do it already?! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	innsmouth_eyes 2005-08-02 06:23 am UTC (link)
	is asexual But I get what you're saying. From the looks of things there's little difference between being Straight Edge and being a Christian Scientist. And who appointed these guys "Straight Edge In Group Deciding Dictators"? Why do they get to say who's in and out? Aren't you part of something if you practice it? Most religeons aren't even that strict. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rogue 2005-07-31 06:23 pm UTC (link)
	It's shit like this that makes me not feel bad for being such a jackass to these kids in highschool. (Is there a rule against these sort of comments? Oh well.) Also, most modern dictionaries list existentialist as both adjective and noun, while transcendentalist is really a noun. Fuckwits. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	keri 2005-08-01 02:41 am UTC (link)
	I'm so glad I'm not the only one who wanted to smack that person for the adjective-not-noun argument. Besides, it was a really stupid comeback along the lines of grammar-picking. Geez. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	panthea 2005-07-31 07:23 pm UTC (link)
	Oh my god, these people are fucking stupid. I don't really care. If you're in AP, you would know that existentialist is an adjective. Is that what they're teaching in AP English nowadays? Mostly we just read books and analyzed the shit out of 'em. The best part is that someone actually thought that was a snappy comeback. Hee. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	frau_eva 2005-07-31 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. Showing off that you're in AP...just Wow. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

lillyv
2005-08-08 05:51 am UTC (link)

Yeah, considering how hard it was for people at my school to get into AP...

...the torturous seconds of having to FILL IN A CIRCLE WITH A PENCIL!

...the arduous task of having to HAVE MY MOTHER SIGN OFF ON MY CLASS SCHEDULE!

...the pain I felt when I HANDED SAID PAPER IN TO MY GUIDANCE COUNCILOR'S SECRETARY!

*clutches her heart in rememberance*

I just feel bad for those that didn't make it. Poor, poor souls.

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	kadath 2005-07-31 07:29 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, they're powerful stupid in there. (Reply to this)

	zaliesiren 2005-07-31 07:51 pm UTC (link)
	No I'm 16. I know minors can buy them. shrug Sixteen and bought NA huh? Not in my party store. Gotta be eighteen with an ID babes, sorry. (Reply to this)

	twocorpses 2005-07-31 07:58 pm UTC (link)
	What the heck is "straightedge"? What does that mean? I feel so out of the loop. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	lurker32 2005-07-31 08:37 pm UTC (link)
	As nearly as I can tell, it's "punk" for goody-two-shoes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sashenka 2005-07-31 08:39 pm UTC (link)
	er... yeah... basically it's you're so punk that you ignore being punk in favor of not having fun. XD Don't you love not having fun? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	twocorpses 2005-07-31 09:29 pm UTC (link)
	um. okay then. lol (Reply to this)(Parent)

sashenka
2005-07-31 08:37 pm UTC (link)

It means you don't do drugs, drink or have sex (permiscuous sex, technically, but I've seen people told they weren't sxe for having sex with a significant other of almost a year...) it's basically "we don't do things to harm our bodies (except mosh)"

I was straight edge once... then I turned 16. No... really... I was also a vegetarian, but then I realized meat was tasty.

2 comments in and they already throw around the word 'Fascist'. This is so ~~hardcore~~ stupid.

In another post, someone asks what a SXE person should do to celebrate being 21 and someone replies with 'go to a show'. Have you EVER been a concert that wasn't full of potsmoke and beer?! I've been to see bands that are SXE and there's pot and beer and girls taking off their tops (granted I'm sometimes one of them...). Then they start fighting over whethor or not it's OK to have friends who drink and someone points out that SXE is turning into a cult. haha...

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rogue
2005-07-31 08:49 pm UTC (link)

The straightedgers around here - which, sadly, have caused enough trouble and pissed off enough people to have their own police classification as a gang - have this idea that once you've been a straightedger for so many years, you can drink, do drugs, ect. This mentality was so that if you "joined" when you were a freshman or sophmore in highschool, by the time you graduated you'd be able to be drunk for your party, or something.

Also, it was tradition for them to beat their girlfriends.

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	um... sashenka 2005-07-31 10:15 pm UTC (link)
	Wow... that's not really what SXE is supposed to be... that's why i stopped labeling myself at such all those years ago... people like that... I really don't do a lot of non straight edge things, but i don't want to be associated with a bunch of thugs. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	loony666 2005-07-31 10:34 pm UTC (link)
	once you've been a straightedger for so many years, you can drink, do drugs, ect. But that makes no sense. O.o Isn't that the definition of straightedge? That they don't do that stuff? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rogue 2005-07-31 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	Never made sense to me, either. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	twocorpses 2005-07-31 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	lol! Well.. okay then. Thanks for the info! :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	frau_eva 2005-07-31 08:31 pm UTC (link)
	You're damn right I'm not going to tye myself to this. It's hateful. There is no forgiveness. I am crying. I have never cried to a computer before. That's ridiculous. I'm extremely hurt. I've been cast away from God. I guess now that's she's no longer straight-edge, she can go back to bartending. In the dark. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	toasterkitten 2005-08-01 12:37 am UTC (link)
	that is almost pathetic. oh wait, it is pathetic (Reply to this)(Parent)

	absurdwords 2005-07-31 08:48 pm UTC (link)
	I feel bad for the perfectly nice straight-edgers I know. They don't need those "MWAHAHAHA you can't be one of us anymore FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE 'coz you've drunk one beverage with 1% alcohol in it" teenagers. "non"-alcoholic beer... vomits (Reply to this)(Thread)

	april_hurst 2005-07-31 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	I'd rather be friends with a drinking, smoking slut who believed in "to each their own" and didn't have a holier-than-thou complex. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2005-08-01 07:05 am UTC (link)
	Word. They seem to have more fun than the holier-than-thous who go around and try to make everything the way they want it to be. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	redmark 2005-07-31 08:54 pm UTC (link)
	I never ever fail to read "sXe" as "sexy". Often without noticing. I think this makes it better. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	naienko 2005-08-01 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. Yes it does. (Reply to this)(Parent)

kookaburra
2005-08-01 07:32 am UTC (link)

Ha ha! I was a big dork in highschool- just kept my head down, did my homework, didn't go to parties.

It was one hell of a shock when a punk girl I was friendly with confessed that she looked up to me because I was so "'edge". Apparently not getting into trouble or getting multiple piercings or tatoos has become rare enough that now it's seen as a statement. Or something.

...and that's my experience with straight edgers, and I wanted to share with Group.

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	(Anonymous) 2005-08-01 09:24 am UTC (link)
	sort of reminds me of the statement "Don't trust anyonw over 30." from the 60's. That which was fringe is now the main stream. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Utter. Fucking. Wankers. adora_spintriae 2005-08-01 08:57 am UTC (link)
	Oh dear. They're trying so hard to be special they need a certificate of commendation. Like the Young Liberals, in a way. (Reply to this)

	amxjm 2005-08-02 11:35 pm UTC (link)
	Damn, and I don't have one of my straight-edge icons on here, either... Seriously, though, I'd bitch about some of these guys needing to chill out a bit, but this is a scene formed around a substyle of music called hardcore... (Reply to this)