Log In

Home
    - Create Journal
    - Update
    - Download

LiveJournal
    - News
    - Paid Accounts
    - Contributors

Customize
    - Customize Journal
    - Create Style
    - Edit Style

Find Users
    - Random!
    - By Region
    - By Interest
    - Search

Edit ...
    - Personal Info &
      Settings
    - Your Friends
    - Old Entries
    - Your Pictures
    - Your Password

Developer Area

Need Help?
    - Lost Password?
    - Freq. Asked
      Questions
    - Support Area



xanos ([info]xanos) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-08-06 09:04:00
Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
religion wank in metaquotes, once again
A rather small wank, but it has some amusing moments, plus the good old "I have street cred!" claim.

A post is made in Metaquotes about Jesus being a Hufflepuff. People debate in a very mild manner for a while, until [info]deeleit gets confused about the whole Trinity thing in Christianity. People try to explain (think of God as a peanut MnM!), although it doesn't seem to do much good.

Somewhere along the line, [info]bastmoon writes a little rant about Christianity not making any sense, which of course causes some reactions. She then lists off her degrees and claims that she's "racked up enough street cred to express an opinion, worded as silly as it may be?"

Really, it's worth it just for the MnM explanation.

(Post a new comment)


[info]kadath
2005-08-06 02:36 pm UTC (link)
Why are they getting so up in arms? No religion makes any damn sense when looked at from the outside.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]kookaburra
2005-08-08 06:24 am UTC (link)
That's what I've always wondered- and I'm Greek Orthodox. I mean, religions follow their own internal logic, but you can't argue an outsider into comprehending that logic. For example, my Western, post-Enlightenment brain cannot make sense of most Eastern religions, but I know they must make sense to those who follow them.

People just like getting upset I suppose.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]greenling
2005-08-06 02:39 pm UTC (link)
Or do you find inherent sense and logic in all creation taking place in 6 days, the origin of humanity coming from dust and a rib, a flood in which the earth was repopulated with only two of every kind of animal, a vengeful/ jealous/ loving/ forgiving/ male/ absolutely only one god manifested in a trinity, virgin births, feeding thousands with a few loaves of bread, and resurrections? All that seems logical to you?

A mythologist not understanding the concepts of metaphor or new groups reinventing older stories. Mmh. I wonder what she thinks about Aesop's literal talking animals, or that Snorri dude's totally faithful retelling of Norse myth.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]telophase
2005-08-06 07:44 pm UTC (link)
And then there's the reply:

I'm sorry my thinking you went over the line offended you enough to find ammunition on my journal.

Passive-aggressive repreSENT!

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]angora
2005-08-06 03:10 pm UTC (link)
I love the MnM analogy. It captures the "three aspects of one Divine Being" quite well, I think. (And I so want to make an icon of it.)

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]innsmouth_eyes
2005-08-07 01:45 am UTC (link)
You mean, "The Trinity: Like M&Ms, in a way."?

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


[info]angora
2005-08-07 11:16 am UTC (link)
Yes. :)
Can't imagine when I'd use it, but I still want one.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]made_by_kali
2005-08-06 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Damnit, I never got the MnM analogy, just a boring egg one.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]nebbieq
2005-08-06 05:46 pm UTC (link)
I didn't even get the egg analogy when I was in catechism. I think the example they used was three rings linked together or something like that.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


[info]greypearl
2005-08-06 06:00 pm UTC (link)
I don't think mine even counts as an analogy... it was something like God having three jobs. I feel so cheated.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


[info]nebbieq
2005-08-06 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Man, Catholicism has gotten so cheap lately.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]thebratqueen
2005-08-07 03:21 am UTC (link)
When I was in Catholic school they used a 3 leaf clover as the example. Which never made much sense to me either.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Useless trivia!
[info]beccastareyes
2005-08-07 04:45 am UTC (link)
Supposedly Saint Patrick used that to convert the Irish, because the Trinity confuses everyone, even guys who lived 15 centuries ago. At least, he did according to the Irish myths and legends book I got.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Useless trivia!
kroki_refur
2005-08-07 09:02 am UTC (link)
I thought he used a shamrock?

Although I got into a massive argument about whether a shamrock has three leaves or four once and I was wrong and it was embarrassing but if I had been right then I could have based a new branch of theology on it

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Useless trivia!
[info]beccastareyes
2005-08-07 09:59 am UTC (link)
... You're right. What I get for trying to show off.

Though I have a feeling that I confused them a lot in school, too. The leaves look kinda similar, and we didn't have shamrocks in New York.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Useless trivia!
kroki_refur
2005-08-07 12:02 pm UTC (link)
No worries. I was impressed you remembered that at all ;). Plus, when I had my fateful argument I was actually arguing that shamrocks had four leaves based on a hazy memory of a My Little Pony comic, so I have no moral high ground to take...

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(Deleted post)
Re: Useless trivia!
kroki_refur
2005-08-08 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Woo! Do I get to choose which one?

(Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: Useless trivia!
(Anonymous)
2005-08-08 05:15 pm UTC (link)
A shamrock basically is a three-leaf clover, though, isn't it?

-- Queencallipygos on LJ

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Useless trivia!
kroki_refur
2005-08-08 05:23 pm UTC (link)
*checks Wikipedia*

Well, turns out I knew even less about shamrocks than I thought! That's what I get for trusting those durn ponies. *shakes fist*

And who knew there were three hundred species of clover? *boggles*

(Reply to this)(Parent)


(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 07:02 pm UTC (link)
I didn't even get a clover! They explained it to us as three fingers on a hand. Which makes even less sense.

-JMouse

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]sluggirl
2005-08-06 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I like this one:
1: You're not even Christian! Why are you defending those assholes?!
2: Er... Yes, actually, I am.

I am also amused at the copy editor who can't capitalize or punctuate properly.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


(Anonymous)
2005-08-07 12:50 am UTC (link)
3: Oh, wait, no, apparently she's not. Pwned.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


kroki_refur
2005-08-07 09:03 am UTC (link)
4. No, she definitely is. She just didn't put any quote marks in when quoting a non-Christian view, hence the confusion.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]sashenka
2005-08-06 11:44 pm UTC (link)
think of God as a peanut MnM!

That reminds me of that line from Season 1 of Scrubs... "Think of my patience as your virginity. You always thought it would be there until..."

If there's one thing the internet has taught me, it's don't talk about religion with anyone unless you *want* to argue (which sometimes I do, I admit), because there will always be at least one idiot who will say "All Christians are stupid." and one idiot who will say "I'm Christian and you're all burning in hell." (and someone like me stuck in the middle saying "Hi, I'm a pagan... can't we all just love each other and the earth and get the fuck along?")

Jesus: #1 word to make people go from discussion to batshit in 2.5 seconds.

Besides, I totally thing Jesus would have been a Gryffindor. XD

(Reply to this)(Thread)


kroki_refur
2005-08-07 09:09 am UTC (link)
I really don't get the whole evangelising thing. I mean, Christians are supposed to love everyone and yet the crazies seem to hate everyone. Atheists supposedly don't believe in the afterlife, so why on Earth would they care if someone else consoles themselves with faith? Yet the crazies seem just as intolerant and evangelical as those they purport to despise. If only people listened to what they sounded like a little more often, maybe there would be less bugfuck sutpidity.

I apologise for this comment not being funny. Although I personally lean more towards the Hufflepuff!Jesus.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


[info]kookaburra
2005-08-08 06:27 am UTC (link)
Basically we're supposed to spread the euangelion, that is, the Good News that Jesus defeated death. The thing is, most people seem to forget that we're supposed to do it with love FOR love of people. Not for feeling superior or making other people feel like crap.

I could rant on and on about this.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


(Anonymous)
2005-08-07 04:51 am UTC (link)
I've studied in depth for 6 years every major (and minor) religious faith and mythology

Wow, all that in just 6 years?

-creepa@LJ

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]made_by_kali
2005-08-08 12:31 am UTC (link)
Amazing how people spend lifetimes studying just one in depth and all in takes is 6 years to do them all.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


ealusaid
2005-08-07 05:53 am UTC (link)
*headexplode* "Christians worship the Cross, and Mary is a God! Man, this religion is wacky!"

*bludgeons face with a book* Atoms are molecules, and an element is also a compound! Science is stupid! Because obviously my opinion is BASED ON FACT!

Having put myself at their level, I'll wipe off the sploodge and go to bed.

(Reply to this)


[info]ingrid
2005-08-07 02:39 pm UTC (link)
And yet, looking at Bastmoon's info page, there seems to only a mention of two dubious "degrees", nowhere the near the six (ten? twenty?) in mythology claimed:

BA in New Mythologies in Trans Cultural Film Making, MA in Fiction Writing.

But it does reveal this relevant bit:

"Was voted “Most Dramatic” in High School."

Now *that* I believe.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]heddychaa
2005-08-07 09:13 pm UTC (link)
someone should tell her that academia doesn't count internet degress.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


(Anonymous)
2005-08-07 10:59 pm UTC (link)
She’s got the actual degrees but somehow that just makes it wankier really… ^_^;

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)


[info]heddychaa
2005-08-07 11:01 pm UTC (link)
it makes it wankier because nobody in an actual academic setting would say in a debate "well, I have such and such a degree." I don't get into a debate with my poetry proff over the explication of a poem only to have her say "yeah, well, I have a phD in english so obviously I'm right." she USES the KNOWLEDGE she earned in getting that degree in order to REFUTE me.

very simple concept.

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]princessdot
2005-08-08 11:32 am UTC (link)
Ah but from what institution? MS PurtyDegree Printer? Or one I'd actually be able to get books from in ILL? ;)

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]smo
2005-08-07 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps she's counting her high school diploma as one of her "degrees."

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]heddychaa
2005-08-07 08:48 pm UTC (link)
and all this derived from me using an icon. teh win!

(Reply to this)

  
   
Privacy Policy - COPPA
Legal Disclaimer - Site Map