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	squib 2005-08-23 01:53 pm UTC (link)
	I'd like to slap the fuck out of thebitingfaery right about now. What does it think is good music? (BTW, wasn't that person wanked recently? That name is awfully familiar. Aside from being Labyrinth fandom wanker #9,000,344, that is.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	omega 2005-08-23 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	She's involved in 99,99% of all ONTD wanks. Which amounts to 99,99% of everything ever posted in the community. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rogue 2005-08-23 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	thebitingfaery doesn't like anything except posing for web cam shots. You'll catch on after a while. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	moonjaguar 2005-08-24 06:56 am UTC (link)
	Isn' she an LJdrama regular? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	smo 2005-08-23 03:27 pm UTC (link)
	Hee, someone referenced blackpeopleloveus.com. loves (Reply to this)

	eilan 2005-08-23 03:28 pm UTC (link)
	Is it bad I actually agree with thebitingfairy on most points? I just don't think my taste in music needs to be discussed in a LJ community... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eilan 2005-08-23 03:31 pm UTC (link)
	And now that I read more, I see I don't actually agree with her. Not only will I not wank about my musical opinions on ONTD, she's batshit insane and I am just sometimes insane. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	squib 2005-08-23 04:37 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, and she has to say it over and over again. I got that she doesn't like rap the first time she said it, I didn't need 9,000 repeats. (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2005-08-23 05:02 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, I was encouraged by her comments at first - I'm one of those music snobs that goes for the four-elements-of-music thing (that's melody, harmony, rhythm and timbre) and therefore doesn't like rap - but I didn't like the way she expressed her opinions. She kept going back and forth between "Rap is an inferior art form" and "It's just my o-peeeeeen-yin! Dun flame me 4 it plz"

-The mouse who reported this

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	orangutan 2005-08-23 06:53 pm UTC (link)
	Debating taste in music is almost always idiotic. I mean, it's not as if people change their minds about a style just because some dweeb on the internet told them it sucks. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-08-23 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	Wasn't there briefly even a "is homophobia even a word?" thread? Queencallipygos on LJ (Reply to this)(Thread)

	medievaloracle 2005-08-23 05:46 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but it was deleted. A screencap ended up in Metaquotes. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jat_sapphire 2005-08-23 05:57 pm UTC (link)
	minatory voice People, don't play historical linguistics at home. You'll hurt yourselves. These words, they did not evolve the way you think they did. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kroki_refur 2005-08-23 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	Word. So annoying when people say the because a word once meant something, it will always and forever remain the same. Do you see me speaking Old English? ~~Except in the pub after my Beowulf class...~~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	redwarrior 2005-08-23 09:52 pm UTC (link)
	applause And I <3 your icon. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	redwarrior 2005-08-23 09:56 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, jeez. >__< What a bunch of fools. Speaking of "freedom of speech", all I really think it is is "freedom to make your sorry ass sound like an idiot". Even though I don't like their opinions, I'd support the right of racists, bigots, etc. to say what they want. ~~Because there will be a vigilante mob right afterwards. >D~~ (Reply to this)

	"I'm not your mate, fag." "No, fag means cigarette!" "You're a cigarette!" sabinelagrande 2005-08-23 10:47 pm UTC (link)
	I refuse to go on a ten page ethnomusical rant over why saying rap music isn't really music is a) Eurocentric and b) just plain wrong. Instead, I will say that oh_no_nikki needs to lay off the angel dust. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: "I'm not your mate, fag." "No, fag means cigarette!" "You're a cigarette!" squib 2005-08-24 05:46 am UTC (link)
	If you ever write that rant, I really, really want to read it! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: "I'm not your mate, fag." "No, fag means cigarette!" "You're a cigarette!" amxjm 2005-08-24 06:32 am UTC (link)
	I, too, would love to read this rant if you ever write it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

toasterkitten
2005-08-24 12:06 am UTC (link)

Hmm I hope one day we can look back at how we treated gay people and realise it's the same way we traited African Americans many decades ago.
funny, i don't remember having been put up for auction, being sold to a texan cotton farm, or having sex with thomas jefferson.
i think it would be more like slavery>homophobia>fursecution, but that is just me. what a dumb argument; WORDS CHANGE OH NO!

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greenling
2005-08-24 03:34 am UTC (link)

*scritches head* I don't recall any of that happening mere "decades" ago to African-Americans either. I'm thinking they mean mid-twentieth century; the phrasing's rather dense of them.

I'd also say it's much closer to women's rights myself, what with normally having some rights in most countries for the past few centuries, being mostly ignored as an eccentricity in the upper-class, and so forth, but that's a tangent.

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	toasterkitten 2005-08-24 03:51 am UTC (link)
	actually, that is a very good comparison! (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 02:22 am UTC (link)

I'm proud of Kanye West, in a couple of ways. I was waiting for someone to speak out about the diamond mines in Africa, especially someone in the hip-hop industry, considering how a lot of them are obsessed with ice and bling and such. And now that he's taken on the issue of homosexuality and homophobia, which is also a big deal in the black community, I might just have to love him. Unfortunately, I don't like his voice, and that's the main thing I'm a music snob about - but I still support him.

That said: almost everyone on ohnotheydidnt are just plain gay, in the negative sense; and I hate it when people say "rap" to describe the entire genre. It's just so...white.

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	No Talib icon ourself 2005-08-27 07:17 am UTC (link)
	I think that Talib Kweli and ded prez have been referenced the situation in various albums, although I'm unsure about public media-type statements. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Shit, and still no Talib icon ourself 2005-08-27 07:29 am UTC (link)
	Damn, that's "have referenced," not... you know, with the "been." What I wanted to ask, was this: So, what does just plain gay, in the negative sense mean? (Reply to this)(Parent)