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grand_sealink ([info]grand_sealink) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-09-03 19:54:00
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Hurricane Katrina affects us all!
Or so says [info]vittrawhitetail in a "heart-in-the-right-place,-but-your-post-is-not" over at customers_suck. [here]:

Most people join in the outpouring of support, but some object:

Look, hippie... Those of us who get the enormity of the situation have already donated or are getting ready to.

And I don't see why we should post how much we gave because it's not a contest or a feel-good circle-jerk hempfest. It's real goddamn life. I didn't give to "celebrate". I gave so they can get water and first-aid and the help they need. I'd "celebrate" if Superman came down, turned back time, and stopped the thing, but it's not gonna happen.

Others are against the idea on principle:

Personally, I think its rude to tell people what to do with their money.
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Seconded.

Honestly, this community is about sucky customers, I don't expect to have someone shoving a donation box in my face and naggily guilt me, get enough of that at the mall.
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Mini-wank, bite-sized, really, but F_W is slow today.

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[info]miss_arel
2005-09-04 01:26 am UTC (link)
Look, hippie... Those of us who get the enormity of the situation have already donated or are getting ready to.

Yes, shame on her for wanting to get people to donate.

Yes, donation-boxes-in-face-shovers are annoying, but it beats the hell out of wanking over how New Orleans got what was coming to it or the people still there are stupid and irresponsible or some shit. Maybe she needs to curb her enthusiasm, but that doesn't seem decent justification for biting her head off.

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[info]sesana
2005-09-04 02:22 am UTC (link)
I don't consider this hurricane to be a major tragedy, and I don;t intend to give money to red cross or anybody else to help the "victims". I don't feel sorry for a bunch of people who lost things that 75% of the world doesn't have anwyays.

I don't get how the people suffering in New Orleans don't count because people suffer elsewhere.

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[info]scootermcgaffin
2005-09-04 02:33 am UTC (link)
Exactly! By that logic, nobody is suffering anywhere, because someone is always suffering somewhere else.

Erm...Did that make sense?

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[info]sesana
2005-09-04 02:49 am UTC (link)
Exactly as little sense as the original statement did. I think.

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[info]lurker32
2005-09-04 02:46 am UTC (link)
...

Yeah, those whiny bitches. Just because their families are dead and their homes are driftwood and they've had no fresh water for days, we should feel sorry for them?



Excuse me, I feel a spot of homicidal rage coming on.

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[info]sesana
2005-09-04 02:50 am UTC (link)
I can't say that I would want to restrain you.

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2005-09-04 02:51 am UTC

[info]dwib
2005-09-04 02:56 am UTC (link)
Hmm, I think it's because America is a rich country, therefore all Americans are rich, and rich people cannot truly suffer so we shouldn't feel sorry for them or help them out because they had it coming for being greedy bastards. Or something. The idiot logic, she escapes me.

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dracothelizard
2005-09-04 12:45 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I'm going with America is a rich country, with rich people in, so those rich people can take care of the people who suffered, and they're not getting my money. I donated some money to the tsunami victims because they needed it. America doesn't need my money, America can take care of itself.

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-09-04 03:06 pm UTC
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[info]cat_mcdougall
2005-09-04 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Apparently AFP agrees.

And thank the gods AFP put it out, because you know AP wouldn't. I wonder when that is going to hit the wank fan.

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[info]dwib
2005-09-04 02:49 am UTC (link)
I would LOVE to donate money I really would but personally I need my money in order to live. *sighs* that and its not my fault those people didn't listen to all the warnings that they were given.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think giving to charity was supposed to be a punitive exercise. I completely understand people not being able to afford donations and I don't think anyone's obliged to explain why they can't/don't want to, but this kind of excuse is just weird. Yeah, not touching the rest of it...

I've got to stop reading hurricane wank. It makes my head hurt.

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[info]vigilanterodent
2005-09-04 04:13 am UTC (link)
And even if you can't give money, you can give blood, or time, or SOMETHING.

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[info]miss_arel
2005-09-04 06:10 am UTC (link)
Am I a bad person for reading that as 'Hurricane Wank'? Man, whent hat baby hits, we're ALL in trouble.

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[info]dwib
2005-09-04 06:18 am UTC (link)
I think 'Hurricane Wank' will also be known as 'Harry Potter Book 7'. God help us all.

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[info]crickets
2005-09-06 12:26 am UTC (link)
and its not my fault those people didn't listen to all the warnings that they were given.

Somebody read the Cliff notes and missed the real story entirely. Not surprising, but disheartening nonetheless.

I would LOVE to donate money I really would

Uh-huh. And it's really shining through in her comments. /sarcasm

but personally I need my money in order to live.

Understandable, but a little more compassion and empathy would cost nothing. I don't know where she's getting the "buses and other things going back and forth to safe houses" from, but if says her parents were helped in this way, I'm glad for them. Thousands and thousands weren't. The clue-by-fours she's gently given on the issue seem to sail right through her cranium with no effect.

She keeps using the same pissy icon throughout, which doesn't help her case on the "not trying to be mean, honest" line.

::offers aspirin and Tylenol to all::

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[info]dwib
2005-09-06 11:39 am UTC (link)
I should have seen it was all downhill from the first line:

I know people aren't gonna like what I have to say, but I'm gonna say it anyways.

Yeah, she's so brave speaking her mind like that. I hope one day I can muster the nerve to be so controversial on the internet.

Ooh, painkillers!

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[info]jetamors
2005-09-04 02:54 am UTC (link)
I don't consider this hurricane to be a major tragedy

*sighs* I'm starting to feel like I should donate a dollar for everyone who says or implies this. The sad part is, I'd probably be out of money in about four hours.

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[info]cleolinda
2005-09-04 01:05 pm UTC (link)
I shudder to think what that person WOULD consider a major tragedy.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-09-04 03:40 pm UTC (link)
Something that directly affected him/her ;-)

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[info]radiotrash
2005-09-04 03:22 am UTC (link)
I was listening to the radio the other day and some guy called in saying we shouldn't rebuild New Orleans at all because those people were STUPID for living there in the first place, no matter that New Orleans is really damn old (I'm to lazy to look up exactly how old.)

Oh and those people down there? Leave 'em cause they were stupid enough to stay.

Uh-huh, sure, how dare those too old, young or disabled for relying on others to help them!?

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 03:37 am UTC (link)
Older than the Constitution, at least.

Guys like that fill me murderous rage.

-Chunkylimes@LJ

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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-09-04 03:54 am UTC (link)
Yeah, nevermind the earthquakes on the West coast. Or tornado alley. Or the freezing winters of the North of the continent. Or the big fuckoff deserts in the middle. Nobody should live anywhere in the US, damnit! (There's a picture somebody did like this somewhere on the web, but I can't find it.)

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(no subject) - [info]komorebi, 2005-09-06 01:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2005-09-06 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2005-09-04 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-05 12:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2005-09-05 02:13 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-05 03:43 am UTC
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dracothelizard
2005-09-04 04:24 pm UTC (link)
"we shouldn't rebuild New Orleans at all"

So, where does he expect the refugees from New Orleans to live then? Seriously, you can't just say 'Oh no, this city was destroyed! Oh well, screw several hundred years of history, we'll let it go back to being a swamp.'

If Europe thought that way after World War II, chunks of major cities would still be missing.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 08:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-04 08:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 09:16 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nicolae, 2005-09-04 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-04 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amasaglajax, 2005-09-05 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shakeandbake, 2005-09-06 03:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zing_och, 2005-09-07 06:25 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 04:29 pm UTC (link)
There's been a European settlement at the site of New Orleans for over 400 years, and it was a major precontact population center back a couple of thousand years.

What's been stupid is trying to keep the Mississippi in its channel after the bottom had sedimented up past the surrounding land level; the people in the Superdome didn't make that decision, a bunch of people with money, political power and/or degrees in civil engineering did.

The poor people mostly lived there because their families have been there for generations.

Frequentmouse

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 08:03 pm UTC (link)
Well. He has a point. New Orleans is built on swamp land. It´s not a surprise, anyone who can read and do basic research would know what would happen to the city when the inevitable hurricane turned up.

Same with those who live in Los Angeles, everyone in that city knows they live on an active fault line, they know that a major earthquake could hit at any time, they know that earthquake could wipe out the city, and kill them and their family or make them homeless.

Yet, out of all the millions of places in the US, they choose to live there. What can you do.

We all make choices, and we can only make the choices based on what we know, and we all know which cities in the world are the most vulnerable to disaster, yet people still live there, and Government still encourage those cities to grow.

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[info]amasaglajax
2005-09-05 06:39 pm UTC (link)
[info]vittrawhitetail is a goddamn fucking disaster, let me tell you that right now.

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From: [info]vittrawhitetail
Date: September 3rd, 2005 - 03:43 pm

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ever heard of free will? they didn't have to go to war. If you don;t want to die then you shouldn't be kiling.

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."

-Gandalf, J.R.R. Tolkien -- here

Ah yes, a deep and substantial quote from one of the great canonical Western texts, er, wait... what? I'm glad Gandalf was able to weigh in with his opinion on the Iraq War.

Then we get:

Goodnight all, PLUR. -- here For those who don't know, PLUR is apparently a raver trope meaning Peace Love Unity Respect. Because the catchphrase of ecstasy-taking glowstick breakdancers is really appropriate to a discussion on Hurricane Katrina.

Let's not forget how I care about people, not nationality, but I simply don;t feel much pity for those who had so much, and have lost some of it. I mean really, these people have simply lost comforts and luxuries they've become so used to they suffer without them, such as, oh, clean water, and a child or family member.

How fucking stupid and ignorant can one person be? No, wait, don't answer that, the blood pressure monitor's beeping so hard it's practically singing Handel's Messiah.

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