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elektra3 ([info]elektra3) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-09-22 18:19:00


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Current mood:*thud*

Sexism: It's what's for dinner!
On [info]_discussion, [info]theinamorato asks,

Seeing that all of my aforementioned theses were considered misogynistic rants instead of logical debates I would like to open this up. I want to hear woman's perceptions of men, particularly the negative ones; think of the man that cheated on you, broke your heart, stole from you, used you, how are we inferior? and to the men: do the same, this is a catharsis, dont hold back, post everything, trust me you will feel better but more importantly you will concurrently open dialog and many sub debates.

It is my conclusion that political correctness in the society and within genders is the thing that is keeping both from seeing eye to eye, or resolving any differences. This is the only way to address the gender gaps and what it is about the other that you dont like, maybe we could make history in this community

Go:


Aaaaaaand they're off!



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[info]ianthefira
2005-09-22 10:25 pm UTC (link)
Ouch, just looking at that original post...
ow ow ow.
I think that counts as trolling, no matter how well intentioned.

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[info]ianthefira
2005-09-22 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Never mind--I need to look first. OP is a grade-a dickhead, looking at his/her commentary.
In conclusion, arrrrrgh.

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[info]soleta
2005-09-22 10:29 pm UTC (link)
[info]theinamorato acts just like the schmoozing psychologist who ends up as the villain at the end of the story.

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[info]electricchick
2005-09-22 10:34 pm UTC (link)
My brain hurts. *cries*

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[info]aaron_agonistes
2005-09-22 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Society isn't about benevolence, propriety, or justice. Society is about irrelevant social compulsions that we act out dishonestly on a daily basis.

No, pellucid, that'd be the Intarweb. Society is that thing with the avatars that move around and don't communicate exclusively with text. Y'know, that thing you're too good for? Please stop talking now, ok?

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[info]frau_eva
2005-09-22 11:39 pm UTC (link)
Pellucid seriously needs a psychiatrist. NOW. Everything he writes makes me believe 1)he's possibly the biggest sincere asshole I've seen, or 2)he's got some serious mental disorders. Yes, multiple.

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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-09-23 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2005-09-23 12:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-09-23 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2005-09-23 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tiki, 2005-09-23 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-09-23 03:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tiki, 2005-09-23 03:17 pm UTC

[info]marlo
2005-09-22 11:02 pm UTC (link)
::cheerfully mixes fandom metaphors::

HOLY TOROG-HAI, BATMAN!

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-23 02:48 am UTC (link)
...and now I want to see Batman fighting a Ringwraith. Damn you. Damn you to crossover hell!

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[info]sepiamagpie
2005-09-22 11:12 pm UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/i_am_pellucid


check out this guy (you'll see him near the top with such gems as Most women are incapable of having any depth of thought or substance of character.)

excerpts:

I feel shredded. I'm supposted to be a different person, but that person has been destroyed. All that's left are the vengeful remains, full of fury.

And

She is intelligent, she is wise, and she is beautiful. I just hope she turns out to be virtuous.

It's so hard to meet good women.



I haven't read stuff like this in years... back when some of the people on my flist were still fifteen.

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[info]absurdwords
2005-09-22 11:14 pm UTC (link)
[info]i_am_pellucid has fried my brain.

I won't have any depth of thought or substance of character anymore and that's his fault.

Woe is me.

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(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-09-22 11:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ianthefira, 2005-09-22 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-09-22 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-09-22 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmikhailovic, 2005-09-23 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-09-23 12:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2005-09-23 03:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2005-09-23 04:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-09-23 05:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonpigeon, 2005-09-23 03:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - ealusaid, 2005-09-23 08:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_mouse, 2005-09-25 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]renata_hpjc, 2005-09-23 04:23 pm UTC
I loose at comments - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-09-25 01:24 am UTC
Re: I loose at comments - [info]cmikhailovic, 2005-09-25 02:15 am UTC
woot! - (Anonymous), 2005-09-25 04:38 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-22 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-09-23 02:00 am UTC
(no subject) - ealusaid, 2005-09-23 08:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-09-23 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-09-23 02:45 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-23 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-09-23 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lukita, 2005-09-23 01:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-09-23 01:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-09-23 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-09-23 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-09-23 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-09-23 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-09-23 03:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mediumdave, 2005-09-23 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]b_jellybean, 2005-09-24 01:24 am UTC

[info]issendai
2005-09-23 01:07 am UTC (link)
i hate how women that are in power adopt a masculine personality and attitude, theres absolutely nothing feminine about the modernday business woman, they dress in suits and are like men.

People keep saying this, but in ten years of working in the corporate world, I have yet to meet a mannish ballbreaker. What aer women supposed to be like, delicate fainting violets?

...And aren't most traditional female behaviors the sort of things the guys in that thread are ranting about? So which is it, boys--are we supposed to act like traditional women, or like men?

Plus: Women's suits aren't feminine? I'd like to see your standard suit-wearing businessman dressed in a woman's suit. You'd notice the general lack of masculinity tootsweet, especially if he forgot to shave his legs before putting on the skirt.

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(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2005-09-23 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-09-23 06:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2005-09-23 06:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ianthefira, 2005-09-25 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-09-27 04:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jess_d_ripper, 2005-09-24 07:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2005-09-25 04:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-25 06:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2005-09-25 09:12 pm UTC

[info]miss_padfoot
2005-09-23 01:11 am UTC (link)
I almost wish [info]mindwindow had commented more. He wasn't a particularly amusing troll, but... oh, I don't know. I'm probably a masochist.

I can only hope his comments don't represent what he actually thinks.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2005-09-23 01:22 am UTC (link)
Ah, I have a soft spot in my heart for devil's advocates. As much as they infuriate me, some of my best bloodthirsty, no holds barred debates have been with them, and it's much more fun than battling with someone who's constantly backtracking and second-guessing themselves.

That said, it's harder to tell who's a devil's advocate and who truly believes in what they're spewing on the intarweb. And some of these people definitely need a beating with the clue bat if they're the latter.

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(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-09-23 01:51 am UTC

[info]tangentialone
2005-09-23 01:47 am UTC (link)
Tempted to comment that I hate everyone.

*writes "I must not wade in the wank" 100 times on chalkboard*

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(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2005-09-23 03:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-09-23 03:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-09-23 03:58 am UTC

[info]elanor_durall
2005-09-23 03:39 am UTC (link)
I can't believe I read the whole thing. Just ... ouch.

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[info]chaimonkey
2005-09-23 05:19 am UTC (link)
[info]theinamorato looks fuggin' creepy, and his weird counselor-esque "encouragement" makes it even worse. He reminds me of a guy coercing a little girl into stripping for him.

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(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-09-23 07:32 am UTC

[info]visp
2005-09-23 06:23 am UTC (link)
*sigh* Why do people do this? It's so simple: People. Are. Assholes. Since people includes both men and women, it's a logical result that there are women and men assholes - it's got nothing to do with gender.

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(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-09-23 07:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]windex_junkie, 2005-09-25 12:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]annaham, 2005-09-27 03:07 am UTC

[info]innsmouth_eyes
2005-09-23 07:26 am UTC (link)
It sounds like you allow yourself to be controlled by men of a fairly negative stereotype or simply choose to surround yourself with shallow assholes. Either way, you're doing it to yourself. It's usually those "clingy" guys who turn out not to be assholes; what you call "clingy" is what they call "devoted."

So when a girl gets taken in by a sleazy guy who at first seems nice and decent, it's her fault for allowing herself to be used, but when i_am_pellucid finds that all women are devoid of depth of character and thought, it's because all women are devoid of depth of character and thought, not because he's driving all the decent, intelligent women away with his nihilism and crappy attitude? Or because he's choosing to define women's collective character by the very few bad examples he knows? Hell, if I judged the human race based on my customers, I'd have to start putting cyanide in baby food to stem the evil before it begins.

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2005-09-23 11:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]carlanime, 2005-09-23 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2005-09-23 07:16 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-09-23 07:57 am UTC (link)
I know I made this icon for a reason...

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ealusaid
2005-09-23 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Fan-fucking-TASTIC! With no apparent sense of irony, [info]i_am_pellucid just broke Godwin's law:

Thoughts are ultimately irrelevant. All that matters is action. Adolf Hitler THOUGHT he was helping. Does that make him a good person?

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(no subject) - [info]sadisticferret, 2005-09-23 09:47 pm UTC

[info]selene_avis
2005-09-24 12:07 am UTC (link)
Really, I don't feel like anyone should have a right to vote. Most people are stupid scumbags and should be as distanced from the process as possible. Voting should be a PRIVELEGE; something you earn by being intelligent and lucid.

i_am_pellucid loses at life!

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(no subject) - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2005-09-25 04:36 pm UTC

redwarrior
2005-09-25 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Note to OP:

Society will still have assholes regardless of gender. DEAL.

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[info]the_mouse
2005-09-25 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Maybe something's wrong with me, but Pellucid's semi-deranged, faux-academic ramblings and blatant hypocrisy and humongous persecution complex make me giggle and glow a little inside.

Oh, Pellucid. Don't you ever change. Or breed.

Yours,
The Mouse

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[info]ivyincubus
2005-09-27 01:26 am UTC (link)
Totally unrelated to the wank, but your icon is the best trainwreck I've seen in a while. I don't want to watch it... but I have to watch it!

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[info]annaham
2005-09-27 03:05 am UTC (link)
This lovely comment by [info]i_am_pellucid was my personal favorite:

Most women are incapable of having any depth of thought or substance of character. Even the most inane men feebly attempt to contemplate philosophical issues in their drunken stupors; the only women who I have ever heard utter meaningful philosophy are women who are or were ostricized by their own gender. The female social structure is staggeringly superficial and deceitful. Sometimes I honestly think that we would be better off without equal rights for women.

I didn't know some people still think like that. UGH. What a moron.

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(no subject) - redwarrior, 2005-09-27 07:56 pm UTC

 
   
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