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ZorroRojo (zorrorojo) wrote in otf_wank,
@ 2005-10-17 17:57:00

Hate the sin! No hate the sinner!
OK, so I'm trying to clean up the flood in my basement and I get one channel on the basement TV. It's Dr Phil! On Wednesday, he's taking on 'Being Gay.' I said, whoa, I need to go check out his message board for that one. And I sure wasn't disappointed.

http://drphil.com/messageboard/topic/593

15 pages of -- hate the sin! No, hate the sinner!

christ on a crutch-- wtf is wrong with people? Is Dr. Phil's entire audience made up of fundies? It's running 10-1 ranting fundies vs people who don't think everyone in the world should live their way.

Makes for entertaining reading though.

little disclaimer-- I used to actually *like* his show.* It sucks ass now. I think someone's gotten a little big for their britches...

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	grand_sealink 2005-10-17 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	Well, I'm hardly surprised by the people who tell them "I LOVE YOU BECAUSE GOD SAYS I SHOULD, BUT YOU GET ANYWHERE NEAR MY ASS AND YOU'RE DEAD", because that's the kind of hypocracy that modern organized religion encourages in people. 'It's alright as long as it isn't you'. Which is really no way to be. (Reply to this)

	scarah2 2005-10-17 10:17 pm UTC (link)
	Do they get some sort of prize for Godwin on the first comment? (Reply to this)

	chaimonkey 2005-10-17 10:32 pm UTC (link)
	Gotta love that conditional love! (Reply to this)

esclaramonde
2005-10-17 11:04 pm UTC (link)

It's too bad you don't put more emphasis on what God says on the subject, instead of homosexual propoganda. If you reject the Bible, and what Jesus taught, then fine. Do what you will, but to claim to be a Christian and reject the teachings of Jesus because you want to continue to live a life of sin is hypocrisy.

...

Many people live perverted sexual lives. Premarital sex is just as evil as homosexual sex or beasiality or pedophelia. They are equally harmful and outside of God's plan for His children. Of course you don't hear single people claiming people who disagree with their choices are "forniphobic". The reason people made up the meaningless term homophobic is because they don't want people to disagree with them. It is sheer politics.

...

God calls His children to Holiness. Not pervertedness.

...

Read the impure posts here, and the hatred towards everything holy and good.

The only hatred here is towards the Majesty of a Holy God.

Wow, ykzpilot. Tell us what you really think. And then don't wonder when everyone thinks that Christians are ~~militant~~ crazed.

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	lurker32 2005-10-17 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	Do what you will, but to claim to be a Christian and reject the teachings of Jesus because you want to continue to live a life of sin is hypocrisy. Hiya, kettle! Of course you don't hear single people claiming people who disagree with their choices are "forniphobic". That's because "prudes" is much easier to say. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

chibikaijuu, 2005-10-18 01:02 am UTC

frequentmouse, 2005-10-18 01:39 am UTC

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	alpheratz 2005-10-18 12:55 am UTC (link)
	God calls His children to Holiness. Not pervertedness. This would make an awesome icon. It's all about the turn of phrase. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	iczer6 2005-10-18 01:05 am UTC (link)
	If you reject the Bible, and what Jesus taught, then fine. 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'. 'Love thy neighbor'. Yeah I'm not seeing 'hate people who choose to live in a way I don't personally approve of' and yeah Leviticus doesn't fucking count. (Reply to this)(Parent)

feloniousfeline, 2005-10-18 01:38 am UTC

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rogue, 2005-10-18 03:46 am UTC

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renata_hpjc, 2005-10-18 04:11 pm UTC

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	lindentree 2005-10-17 11:18 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, my favourite part of the New Testament was when Jesus promoted hate and bigotry, too. (Reply to this)(Thread)

pepperlandgirl4, 2005-10-17 11:45 pm UTC

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	somnambulicious 2005-10-17 11:23 pm UTC (link)
	I <3 tulseyjoe and want to have his internet babies. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2005-10-18 12:08 am UTC (link)
	Creepy! I think gays must have been special spirits because they are faced with a great challenge here on Earth. (Reply to this)(Thread)

amxjm, 2005-10-18 12:19 am UTC

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	hysteria 2005-10-18 12:39 am UTC (link)
	Well done people, on realising that the Bible contains numerious contraditions! I do love Dr. Phil though, it's one of my little sinful pleasures... rather like being gay. (Reply to this)

	elanor_durall 2005-10-18 01:27 am UTC (link)
	Premarital sex is just as evil as homosexual sex or beasiality or pedophelia. I had no idea premarital sex was that evil. Wow. I should be locked up. Or for efficiency's sake, I should get capital punishment so I can proceed directly to hell. (Reply to this)(Thread)

teratologist, 2005-10-18 12:24 pm UTC

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	chopperbetty 2005-10-18 01:49 am UTC (link)
	Lets look at the word orientation for a moment ..what does it mean.If someone says they have an orientation to go to, it means they are going to a class to learn something. Can someone tell me then how the words (sexual orientation) applies to a decision someone made. Wow. Pick up a dictionary, dude. (Reply to this)(Thread)

issendai, 2005-10-18 05:15 am UTC

theladyfeylene
2005-10-18 01:50 am UTC (link)

'You don't choose to be gay, you choose a lifestyle not a same sex partner'.

Hmmm. And here I thought being gay was all about the same sex partner thing. Of course, what with my lack of being oppressed and my lack of sexual identity crisis, I've already figured out I'm going about being gay the whole wrong way. Pray tell, what is this lifestyle I should be living? I hope it involves lots of video games, fan fiction, cooking and vacations to national parks. Because really, those are the major components of my life.

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	verthandi 2005-10-18 02:15 am UTC (link)
	Without fundies, I wouldn't know what to laugh at. Actually, this was just an excuse to use my icon. (Reply to this)

	rogue 2005-10-18 03:47 am UTC (link)
	Is Dr. Phil's entire audience made up of fundies? Well, yeah. (Reply to this)(Thread)

pokecheck, 2005-10-18 04:45 am UTC

issendai, 2005-10-18 04:55 am UTC

rogue, 2005-10-18 05:28 am UTC

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	issendai 2005-10-18 05:17 am UTC (link)
	God calls His children to Holiness. Not pervertedness. I think I see Christianity's marketing problem. (Reply to this)

	aerobot 2005-10-18 07:16 am UTC (link)
	Sorry guys, but I just can't go through this 'hate the sinner' bullshit AGAIN. GAH. For people who hate pervertedness, fundies sure do wank on about it a lot. (Reply to this)

	innsmouth_eyes 2005-10-18 08:39 am UTC (link)
	Don't pretend you are a Chirstian if you condone homosexual activity. I agree, although I would change "if you condone homosexual activity" to "if you go around acting like a prick to people". And what's a Chirstian, anyway? (Reply to this)(Thread)

lurker32, 2005-10-19 02:10 am UTC

innsmouth_eyes, 2005-10-19 07:22 am UTC

lizzypaul
2005-10-18 09:30 am UTC (link)

You know what? The original discussion question was wanky enough for me.

...Then, two men debate whether a person can go from gay to straight,

Why is this a debate? There is study after study after study that proves it's impossible to change sexual orientation, and no scientific evidence on the ex-gay side to back up their claims. So why the fuck are they given equal time and consideration?

If you're going to do that, than every time NASA is in the news, CNN should bring in one of the cult crazies who believes the moon landing was staged and that it's impossible to leave the atmosphere because humans can't reach heaven without God.

Jeez. There is stuff to debate (Christian views on homosexuality, for one) but giving validity to a harmful, false position is just stupid.

and parents of a 4-year-old boy fear their son's desire to play with dolls and wear heels means he'll grow up to be gay. Are they overreacting to his wishes to be a princess instead of a prince? Join the discussion.

AAARRRGGHHH!!! He's four years old! Four year olds don't understand gender roles! Four year olds are at the "oooh, pretty" stage. So he likes to play with dolls...so fucking what? Is it still the 1950s? Are we so threatened by a boy who might actually have some nurturing emotions? *stabbity*

/wank

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coffee_mug
2005-10-18 11:49 am UTC (link)

I stopped liking Dr Phil the time he introduced politics to his show by bringing in some "Mothers for Peace" or something and attacking them by asking them questions like "Don't you think your activity helps the enemy?". It was disgusting - mainly because it's got fuck all to do with the idea of his show - helping people with their relationship & lifestyle problems.

So, uhm, I assume Dr Phil isn't very tolerant about this ghey business?

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beandelphiki, 2005-10-18 09:54 pm UTC

rachel_pi
2005-10-18 02:45 pm UTC (link)

I think being gay is genetic but not a good thing. I don't think it is normal or should ever be considered normal but a biological defect like mental illness. As so many people say they wouldn't choose it.

Dude, if we could change our sexual orientation, I would SO be a lesbian. I mean, the fact that I am so fed up with all the guys I meet, yet I still am not attracted to women is proof enough for me that you don't get to pick.

I think if you are gay "that's nice" but I really don't care what you do in private.

Well that's a switch. Most fundies I see on TV do seem to care what people do in their bedrooms. Like, to the point of being creepy about it. o.O

I would like to know why so many married men go to parks to pay for sex with underage boys/

Is this really a big problem in America? Seriously? I can't say I've heard of an epidemic...

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	trinculotroll 2005-10-18 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	For Your Edification and Reading Pleasure, I Present: Everything Jesus Ever Said About Homosexuality (Reply to this)(Thread)

grand_sealink, 2005-10-18 09:43 pm UTC

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	didodiva 2005-10-22 01:33 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think it is normal or should ever be considered normal but a biological defect like mental illness. Then why doesn't it get its own medication and cute little bouncing mascot? (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2005-10-22 06:01 pm UTC (link)
	'Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.' (Reply to this)

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