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	hereforthewank 2005-11-18 01:56 am UTC (link)
	straight edge's "rules" have been laid down by years and years of edge bands and members of the community I knew the rules were fake. (Reply to this)

	doomsday 2005-11-18 02:02 am UTC (link)
	I feel sorry for the other 25 letters in the alphabet that are sadly underused in these people's usernames. 'X' deserves a vacation full of booze, whores, and drugs. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	miss_padfoot 2005-11-18 05:33 am UTC (link)
	Agreed. It actually was on the banned words list of 2004; maybe these people think it's already had its vacation? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lovelyzelda 2005-11-18 05:37 am UTC (link)
	That right there shows that you don't understand what X is all about. Because X would never do that, unlike that SLUTBITCHWHORE E. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	doomsday 2005-11-18 05:49 am UTC (link)
	I'm sorry, you're quite right. E is in like every bad word: Boobies, asses, beer, ecstasy, heroin, cunties, weed, cocaine, whore, wine, sex, levelheadedness. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	tourette 2005-11-19 02:17 pm UTC (link)
	It's all about the X and the underscore. I'm waiting for someone called "XXX__XXX" to show up. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	theladyfeylene 2005-11-18 02:31 am UTC (link)
	Wait, I only believe in monogamy because of religion? Even though I'm not part of any religion that has any tenents about monogamy? Damn, here I was thinking I'm monogamous because of a personal moral choice. Silly me. (Reply to this)(Thread)

suziecroft
2005-11-18 01:31 pm UTC (link)

I think the point that was being made is that monogamy is a social construct (and, if you want to be accurate about it, actually one that predates most if not all recognised religions), and not one that would occur at all if we were behaving "as nature intended". This is not to say that monogamy is inherently wrong or evil, and if you want to be monogamous you are perfectly welcome to. However most people are not aware of this, simply because it's been around for so long that it's very much ground right into the collective unconscious :)

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	dreamoflife02 2005-11-18 09:11 pm UTC (link)
	...yeah, because all those animals that are naturally monogamous? Totally just doing it because of social pressure. I just wonder how the tradition got started then, if it isn't natural-- if polygamy were natural in humans, wouldn't that be the thing ground into our social consciousness instead? (I'm not trying to start anything-- I really am curious.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

sarracenia
2005-11-19 02:08 am UTC (link)

Actually, most science books I've read has put humans down as a slightly polygamous species, in that most men would naturally only have one wife, but the boss might have two or three while the lowest ranked losers would never marry. And nowadays, monogamy's the only official form of marriage, of course, but most people I know aren't exactly surprised when they find out that some politician has a mistress on the side, so it's not like some form of polygamy is totally foreign.

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dwarfjen
2005-11-19 10:16 am UTC (link)

In many places, polygamy is part of the social consciousness. (It's even in the Old Testament - Rachel and Leah, wives of Jacob, being probably the most famous example).

Wiki even has some statistics:

George P. Murdock’s Ethnographic Atlas recorded the marital composition of 1231 societies, from 1960-1980. Of these societies, 186 societies were monogamous. 453 had occasional polygyny, 588 had more frequent polygyny, and 4 had polyandry.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-20 06:27 am UTC (link)

That statistic I always got in my anthropology classes was that 80% of human societies have been polygamous, 15% monogamous, and 5% whatever it is you call it when one woman marries multiple men (andogamous?). As to how it got started. . .well, cultures have interpreted biological imperatives in different ways. One theory about monogamy is that it makes for a more stable society because you have less unattached males running around causing problems.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-20 06:27 am UTC (link)

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	delcj 2005-11-18 02:38 am UTC (link)
	so, long story short: the first rule of sXe is there are no rules? and the second rule of sXe is you do not talk about sXe? i've never really been able to understand what sXe people go on about. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	smo 2005-11-18 04:12 pm UTC (link)
	And the sixth rule is, THERE IS NO RULE NUMBER SIX. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	msmanna 2005-11-18 03:13 am UTC (link)
	I think I'm getting the hang of this concept of sXe. Drugs are bad, and alcohol is bad, and some-but-not-all sex is bad, but swearing and stupidity are both A-okay. (Reply to this)

	kadath 2005-11-18 03:25 am UTC (link)
	So if it's no street drugs, no alcohol, and no cigarettes, why is some sex okay? Because chastity would be hard? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	beccastareyes 2005-11-18 03:39 am UTC (link)
	Because groups that don't reproduce die out. And that would be a damn shame -- what will the next generation of OTF_Wank members chuckle about? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kadath 2005-11-18 03:42 am UTC (link)
	Oh, I'm not worried. Wank springs eternal, after all. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	twoiskewl 2005-11-18 03:40 am UTC (link)
	I, personally, love how they all analyze that Mackaye's words like he's jesus himself. Hee. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	marciamarcia 2005-11-18 04:09 pm UTC (link)
	That kind of cracks me up, too. WWMD, y'all! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gal_montag 2005-11-18 03:55 am UTC (link)
	So as long as you don't smoke the drugs you're okay? And also apparently so is drinking rubbing alcohol. Apparently also, edge has no restrictions on being an asshole. (Reply to this)

	amxjm 2005-11-18 04:11 am UTC (link)
	sigh (Reply to this)

	april_hurst 2005-11-18 04:19 am UTC (link)
	I guess somewhere in that tl;dr (we need a tl;js for "too long, just skimmed") they affirmed that while the sXe position on sex is not always clear, they're free to wank all they want. (Reply to this)

	funwithrage 2005-11-18 04:51 am UTC (link)
	Damn. Impression 1: Is sXe against spelling, grammar, and capitalization too? Is correct English the new heroin? Impression 2: If I see the phrase "sex should be with someone you love" one more time, my teeth will fall out. (Reply to this)

	miss_padfoot 2005-11-18 05:41 am UTC (link)
	This is one of the stupidest wanks I have ever seen in my life. Shorxrore and without_life just KEEP. ON. GOING. about the whole sex thing. (Reply to this)

spleen
2005-11-18 06:36 am UTC (link)

xxxvegan (I think I dated a stripper called that once):

WHY YOU EXIST!!

OH SNAP!!1!!11one!!1!!one!!11!!1$*Q&%^(*Q&#%^(*Q%^#)))@! ~~~@ ~!!!!

An inspired keyboard mash, there.

xproudxtobex (I didn't realise that in autumn 2005 of Internet fashions, "x" was interchangeable with " ") calls that being pwned, and I think it's either because s/he admires

xxxvegan for his/her grasp of capital letters, or because of the many appearances of the letter Q.

...was I ever this righteous as a young person? Probably, since I was a punk (in the sense punk was understood before Hot Topic and this thing called the 90s). Oi.

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	hereforthewank 2005-11-18 08:10 am UTC (link)
	Hey, she was this close to being funny, and then she had a hand spasm. It could happen to anyone. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	aerobot 2005-11-18 12:52 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I LOVE the part where some idiot is saying 'a man can be a whore too!' Dude. Have you ever, EVER heard ANYONE call a guy a WHORE? And didn't get ASS LAUGHED OFF? You can quote the dictionary all you want, but socially and historically speaking, whores are always women. So STFU. [/wank] (Reply to this)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2005-11-18 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	[blinks] That's true, but I've gotten away with calling men whores. And bitches. And...you get the point. It's even more amusing because I'm 5'5" and the guys I usually call whores are 6'+ and could chew me up and spit me out. So yeah. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2005-11-19 01:08 pm UTC (link)
	Did they take it seriously, though? You can call a guy a whore, but I've never seen it have the sting of calling a girl one. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2005-11-19 02:44 pm UTC (link)
	In the beginning, yeah. I'd end up with bruises from getting the shit knocked out of me. After a while, it became kind of like a standard greeting. "Bitch"; "Whore", "Asswipe"; "Fuckstick". That sort of thing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2005-11-21 12:05 pm UTC (link)
	Huh. That's interesting. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	loonylupinlover 2005-11-18 05:56 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I call guys I know whores and bitches. Not terribly often, and never anyone who isn't already a friend, but it is done sometimes. shrug (Reply to this)(Parent)

	greenling 2005-11-18 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	And this is why we have the word "manwhore". :3 Slut, however, is pretty much androgynous in my experience. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kadath 2005-11-18 10:31 pm UTC (link)
	Calling a man a whore just plain doesn't have the bite it does when you apply it to a woman. Yay for double standards. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2005-11-19 01:07 pm UTC (link)
	Bingo. Especially when it's used to blame; "Oh, he deserved it, he's a whore!" (Reply to this)(Parent)