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Tangle of Toy ([info]funkyhelix) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-11-20 21:00:00
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Entry tags:defensiveness ahoy, feminism: you're doing it wrong

Six months ago, agilebrit defriended ginmar stating her reasons in her own journal, basically saying she disagreed with the things ginmar was saying.

Fast forward to now, and ginmar has found the entry and is calling the op and everyone who commented cowardly bitches and saying to one, "You're that professional virgin, aren't you? No wonder you can't handle anything more thna (sic) black or white."

Update: "I was never on your friends list!"


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[info]singe
2005-11-21 03:38 am UTC (link)
And if you're going to stay a virgin till you're thirty or more you have no business bitching and whining about somebody---behind their back, no less-----while you keep your hymen embalmed. I sweated in the service of my country and I saw things that the world hasn't seen since the liberation of Auscwitz. HonorH didn't even have the balls to tell me she disagreed with me: instead she goes around whining that I don't allow poeple to disagree with me,all the while my flocked entries are open to her. That's cowardly.

Huh? Virgins should be seen and not heard? And I served in Iraq which makes me right about everything so neener neener?

Also there's 'Auscwitz' and Ginmar makes references to mass graves while mentioning that she's unable to say anything due to security. Loose lips sink ships, there.

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[info]kannaophelia
2005-11-21 04:00 am UTC (link)
I thought Ginmar claimed to be a feminist. Guess the part of feminist theory in which women having autonomy over their bodies and making their own sexual choices is a good thing went right over her head - or was forgotten in the multiple recent experiences of death she's had. Dying that often can't be good for one's intellectual grasp of concepts.

It's... really skincrawling, as well as misogynist and completely lacking in any resembling logic. "Go out and get fucked and then you can hold an opinion"? I mean... what? Only contact with the almighty penis confers the ability to discuss Iraq?

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[info]april_hurst
2005-11-21 04:27 am UTC (link)
We're empowered to make choices for ourselves as long as those choices meet the approval of the feminist elite. o_O

Her obvious disdain for elective virginity just... wow. Makes no sense. How can someone with such a lively writing style and wit be so stupid?

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(no subject) - [info]ebonbird, 2005-11-21 07:51 pm UTC
*forgive the necroposting, please* - [info]denimjo, 2006-09-10 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ebonbird, 2006-09-13 05:21 pm UTC

[info]crysiana
2005-11-21 04:32 am UTC (link)
No, no, you see only women who use the freedom they have with their bodies as an opportunity to sleep with one or more people of their preferred gender are actually fulfilling that part of feminist theory. Deciding that they don't wish to, for whatever reason, have sex is just a cheap excuse to hide the fact that their sexualities are still owned and repressed by the patriarchy!

...I feel dirty for typing that.

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(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2005-11-22 11:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]token_girl, 2005-11-22 11:24 pm UTC
(late-ish response) - tourette, 2005-11-26 10:41 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]gunshou, 2005-11-21 05:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-11-21 08:52 am UTC
Rooster yaoi! - [info]fevered_ego, 2005-11-21 10:13 am UTC
Re: Rooster yaoi! - [info]msmanna, 2005-11-21 06:38 pm UTC
Re: Rooster yaoi! - [info]pariforma, 2005-11-21 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - sharonapple, 2005-11-21 07:50 am UTC

[info]carlanime
2005-11-21 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Only contact with the almighty penis confers the ability to discuss Iraq?

I think the contact has to occur on the edge of a mass grave to win her full approval.

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[info]singe
2005-11-22 03:18 am UTC (link)
The Iraqi camel spiders drove her mad. Period.

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[info]m_butterfly
2005-11-22 04:19 am UTC (link)
I keep wondering if the logic goes,

You cannot be liberal and not have had sex.
All who are not liberals are conservatives.
All conservatives are black-and-white, moralistic religious whackos.
Therefore, all virgins are black-and-white, moralistic religious whackos.

Pick your logical fallacy. There are so many to choose from.

Oddly I keep being reminded of that one wank which asked, "Can you be bisexual and monogamous?" Can you be a virgin and be a rational human being, when of course any rational being would have sex for the good of mankind? How dare you have that vagina and not use it! Did you know women in third-world countries are suffering a severe lack of vagina? How do you think they would feel to find there are women in advanced countries who can sleep with anybody they want and aren't doing so? For SHAME!

Mind you, this is generally wild speculation because trying to read her comments causes this pounding, throbbing piercing, pulsing this pain in my brainspace*.



* I foresee a day in the future when all words will have sexual innuendo associated with them. This will either be very good or very bad. I can't decide. But for now, while discussing virginity, perhaps it would be better not to bring up 'piercing pain'.

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(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-11-28 02:13 am UTC

[info]number13baby
2005-11-23 04:45 am UTC (link)
Gin's tendency to attack women who disagree with her using the most vile, misogynistic language really bugs. And all the while she's bitching about men using words such as "pussy" when insulting other men. The fuck? I have to make the obligatory "feminism: the word doesn't mean what she thinks it means" comment here. I still have her on my flist, because she still does make sense once in a while, but I'm having trouble thinking of her as a feminist.

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[info]pyratejenni
2005-11-21 04:02 am UTC (link)
all the while my flocked entries are open to her.


In ginmar's defense, that's probably the trigger.

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[info]kannaophelia
2005-11-21 04:28 am UTC (link)
Why is that a trigger? I mean, the girl just said she didn't want to read the entries anymore. "I'm letting you see them, and you're choosing not to read them? Bitch!"

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-11-21 12:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-11-21 12:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]romana03, 2005-11-21 05:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]catslash, 2005-11-21 07:15 pm UTC
Respect the friendslock, and fear the filter! - [info]jrs1980, 2005-11-21 08:18 pm UTC
Re: Respect the friendslock, and fear the filter! - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-11-21 11:44 pm UTC

[info]singe
2005-11-21 02:14 pm UTC (link)
*Nods* If you disagree with a loonie on your f-list, unfriend them, it's the upfront thing to do. (Unless you're afraid they'll come after you six months later.)

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-21 06:22 am UTC (link)
Ho-ly shit. I would say I've lost respect for Ginmar, but I never had any to begin with.

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[info]singe
2005-11-21 02:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, she's taken one too many SCUDS to the head, I think.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-22 01:28 am UTC (link)
Ho-ly shit. I would say I've lost respect for Ginmar, but I never had any to begin with.
If I weren't more graceful, I might've needed a new keyboard after that remark.

Note to self: don't drink while reading wank.



- cheshyre (who'd love a Journalfen account if invites ever open up)

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(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-11-23 06:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-23 07:04 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-11-21 08:03 am UTC (link)
Huh? Virgins should be seen and not heard?

Oh noes, my credibility is pending until teh dreadful hymen is removed! Quick, I NEED VOLUNTEERS TO SEX0R with me.

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[info]moonpigeon
2005-11-21 08:55 am UTC (link)
*raises hand*

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[info]singe
2005-11-21 01:56 pm UTC (link)
Kinda gives new meaning to the term 'Intellicock.'

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[info]eilan
2005-11-21 12:26 pm UTC (link)
I just can't take anyone serious who doesn't even know how to spell Auschwitz...

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[info]singe
2005-11-21 01:52 pm UTC (link)
Bergin Bilson was a nasty place, too, I've heard.

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(no subject) - [info]jrs1980, 2005-11-21 03:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2005-11-21 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 06:24 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-11-21 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Virgins should be seen and not heard?

Gee, as a feminist, I always assumed that my opinions were important, regardless of whether or not I had a cock shoved into me. Guess I was wrong.

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[info]singe
2005-11-22 03:12 am UTC (link)
I lost my hymen in a bizarre bike accident. (Ow.)What sort of feminist does that make me, I wonder?

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2005-11-22 04:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2005-11-22 01:46 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-11-21 04:46 pm UTC (link)
"I saw things that the world hasn't seen since the liberation of Auscwitz."

God knows that this isn't a competition, but some historical perpective please? Iraq is a tragedy - but the worst since WW2? Huh.

As the child from Vietnamese refugees on one side, and Cambodian refugees on the other, I somehow doubt Iraq is worse than some of the stuff that happened there after WW2.
Khmer Rouge, anybody? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

I don't know why, but the statement bugged me. Mass graves? Go to Rwanda. Or Yugoslavia. How about Chechnya? I'm not demeaning her experiance, I'm just saying that Americans aren't total monsters, even if they manage to fuck up royally from tine to time.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2005-11-22 03:05 am UTC

[info]heddychaa
2005-11-21 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I saw things that the world hasn't seen since the liberation of Auscwitz

because there haven't been any mass killings or torturings in the world since hitler. ever.

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(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2005-11-21 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2005-11-21 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2005-11-22 02:55 am UTC

[info]v_digitalwytch
2005-11-21 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Thank God I wasn't the only one thinking that. She's saying a hell of a lot for someone flinging about National Security.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2005-11-22 02:51 am UTC

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