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Tangle of Toy ([info]funkyhelix) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-11-20 21:00:00


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Entry tags:defensiveness ahoy, feminism: you're doing it wrong

Six months ago, agilebrit defriended ginmar stating her reasons in her own journal, basically saying she disagreed with the things ginmar was saying.

Fast forward to now, and ginmar has found the entry and is calling the op and everyone who commented cowardly bitches and saying to one, "You're that professional virgin, aren't you? No wonder you can't handle anything more thna (sic) black or white."

Update: "I was never on your friends list!"



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[info]kannaophelia
2005-11-21 04:00 am UTC (link)
I thought Ginmar claimed to be a feminist. Guess the part of feminist theory in which women having autonomy over their bodies and making their own sexual choices is a good thing went right over her head - or was forgotten in the multiple recent experiences of death she's had. Dying that often can't be good for one's intellectual grasp of concepts.

It's... really skincrawling, as well as misogynist and completely lacking in any resembling logic. "Go out and get fucked and then you can hold an opinion"? I mean... what? Only contact with the almighty penis confers the ability to discuss Iraq?

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[info]april_hurst
2005-11-21 04:27 am UTC (link)
We're empowered to make choices for ourselves as long as those choices meet the approval of the feminist elite. o_O

Her obvious disdain for elective virginity just... wow. Makes no sense. How can someone with such a lively writing style and wit be so stupid?

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[info]ebonbird
2005-11-21 07:51 pm UTC (link)
I don't know ginmar from shinola, but that kind of screed has me thinking that maybe she could use lessons in laughing at herself. I'm just saying.

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*forgive the necroposting, please*
[info]denimjo
2006-09-10 07:00 am UTC (link)
If she needs lessons in laughing at herself, there certainly won't be any lack of people to show her how. :D

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[info]phosfate
2005-11-22 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Please. Ginmar's hardly the feminist elite.

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[info]ebonbird
2006-09-13 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Who is?

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[info]crysiana
2005-11-21 04:32 am UTC (link)
No, no, you see only women who use the freedom they have with their bodies as an opportunity to sleep with one or more people of their preferred gender are actually fulfilling that part of feminist theory. Deciding that they don't wish to, for whatever reason, have sex is just a cheap excuse to hide the fact that their sexualities are still owned and repressed by the patriarchy!

...I feel dirty for typing that.

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[info]altoidsaddict
2005-11-22 11:15 am UTC (link)
I see she's read Elizabeth Wurtzel's Bitch, then.

I think I've written three academic papers on my hate for that book alone. Choosing the latter part of the "virgin/slut" dichotomy does not make you a fucking rebel.

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[info]token_girl
2005-11-22 11:24 pm UTC (link)
Elizabeth Wurtzel represents a strange phenomenon in my reading habits. I absolutely hate her books and yet I've read three of them. I knew I hated her writing (and her) part way through Prozac Nation, but I still read Bitch and More, Now, Again.

I really, really can't stand her. I find her career as unfathomably as Jessica Simpson's which in certain ways it sort of resembles.

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tourette
2005-11-26 10:41 pm UTC (link)
I used to own that book (I got it in an Oxfam shop - I thought it'd be interesting. It went to some other charity shop in time). I've never seen such long sentences. Curiously, I can't remember much of what the book's essays were actually about, but I remember that the sentences were big enough to fell a horse.

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[info]gunshou
2005-11-21 05:54 am UTC (link)
run away! run away!

venom cock will keep me giggling for weeks</font>

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[info]innsmouth_eyes
2005-11-21 08:52 am UTC (link)
Okay, now I ded from cock.

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Rooster yaoi!
[info]fevered_ego
2005-11-21 10:13 am UTC (link)
It is cock on cock love.

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Re: Rooster yaoi!
[info]msmanna
2005-11-21 06:38 pm UTC (link)
They even come venom free.

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Re: Rooster yaoi!
[info]pariforma
2005-11-21 11:43 pm UTC (link)
*breaks out guitar for a singalong of "The Chicken Song"*

I can do it in C, D, or G, take yer pick.

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sharonapple
2005-11-21 07:50 am UTC (link)
Maybe that venom got to her brain! :O

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[info]carlanime
2005-11-21 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Only contact with the almighty penis confers the ability to discuss Iraq?

I think the contact has to occur on the edge of a mass grave to win her full approval.

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[info]singe
2005-11-22 03:18 am UTC (link)
The Iraqi camel spiders drove her mad. Period.

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[info]m_butterfly
2005-11-22 04:19 am UTC (link)
I keep wondering if the logic goes,

You cannot be liberal and not have had sex.
All who are not liberals are conservatives.
All conservatives are black-and-white, moralistic religious whackos.
Therefore, all virgins are black-and-white, moralistic religious whackos.

Pick your logical fallacy. There are so many to choose from.

Oddly I keep being reminded of that one wank which asked, "Can you be bisexual and monogamous?" Can you be a virgin and be a rational human being, when of course any rational being would have sex for the good of mankind? How dare you have that vagina and not use it! Did you know women in third-world countries are suffering a severe lack of vagina? How do you think they would feel to find there are women in advanced countries who can sleep with anybody they want and aren't doing so? For SHAME!

Mind you, this is generally wild speculation because trying to read her comments causes this pounding, throbbing piercing, pulsing this pain in my brainspace*.



* I foresee a day in the future when all words will have sexual innuendo associated with them. This will either be very good or very bad. I can't decide. But for now, while discussing virginity, perhaps it would be better not to bring up 'piercing pain'.

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[info]photosinensis
2005-11-28 02:13 am UTC (link)
You mean the fact the fact that I'm asexual means that I can't be an enlightened liberal?

Damn, why didn't I vote for Bush then?

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[info]number13baby
2005-11-23 04:45 am UTC (link)
Gin's tendency to attack women who disagree with her using the most vile, misogynistic language really bugs. And all the while she's bitching about men using words such as "pussy" when insulting other men. The fuck? I have to make the obligatory "feminism: the word doesn't mean what she thinks it means" comment here. I still have her on my flist, because she still does make sense once in a while, but I'm having trouble thinking of her as a feminist.

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