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Eilan (eilan) wrote in otf_wank,
@ 2005-12-05 23:09:00

In the

wtf_inc community,

incorrigible_ posts a story involving a hunter.

glooms feels the need to reply with:
Well what can you expect out of someone who would murder an innocent animal..

Everything goes downhill from there, of course.

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	azhidahaki 2005-12-05 11:35 pm UTC (link)
	Disney is to blame for this, you know... (Reply to this)(Thread)

mindset
2005-12-05 11:44 pm UTC (link)

I used to be a hunter,
Stalked wild game
Killing birds and beasties
Felt no shame.

Then one day while hunting,
I shot a doe
Shot right through the forehead,
How was I to know...?

I shot Bambi's mother
Now I feel so bad
I shot Bambi's mother
I made Bambi sad.

And now the deer all hate me
Thumper too.
Greenpeace now berates me
And Disney plans to sue

O-oh-woh-oh, I'm so sorry,
That's she's dead,
When I think I could have shot
A Care Bear instead.

--The Frantics

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notjo, 2005-12-06 01:13 am UTC

tekenduis, 2005-12-06 01:27 am UTC

	rotten_fish 2005-12-06 02:03 am UTC (link)
	When isn't Disney to blame? Goddamn anthromorphic animals! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

puipui, 2005-12-06 02:41 am UTC

ourself, 2005-12-06 02:50 am UTC

pragmatic, 2005-12-06 06:50 am UTC

your_face, 2005-12-06 05:44 am UTC

azhidahaki, 2005-12-06 07:10 am UTC

rotten_fish, 2005-12-08 02:33 am UTC

azhidahaki, 2005-12-08 06:17 am UTC

rotten_fish, 2005-12-08 02:31 am UTC

your_face, 2005-12-08 03:01 pm UTC

chopperbetty
2005-12-05 11:39 pm UTC (link)

glooms' response to How is it any more wrong for a human to consume a pig than a wolf to do the same?:

Well, a human can actively tell right from wrong.

WTF? Right and wrong has nothing to do with it! Eating animals has always been essential for survival, especially back before dietary supplements for vegetarians and tofurky and whatnot. It's why we have canine teeth, people! To tear through flesh!

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	telophase 2005-12-05 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	And a gut that can digest it, too. We are omnivores! Opportunists! If we can pick it, grow it, club it, snare it, or liberate it, we'll eat it! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

chopperbetty, 2005-12-05 11:48 pm UTC

darth_snuggles, 2005-12-06 01:47 am UTC

littleshebear
2005-12-06 12:35 am UTC (link)

Eating animals has always been essential for survival

Well, it's not essential for survival now, so that's really not a good argument. The mere fact that something was necessary in the past is not an adequate justification for continuing it. Wolves can't survive without killing, humans can. A wolf is not in a position to make a choice, a human is.

It's why we have canine teeth, people! To tear through flesh!

Yes, and? Doesn't mean we have to use them to tear through flesh. Just because something is natural that doesn't automatically make it a desirable state of affairs. Sorry but the natrualistic fallacy always being trotted out in these discussions makes me twitch way more than wanky vegetarians making my side look crazy. [/wank]

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littleshebear, 2005-12-06 12:39 am UTC

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sharps, 2005-12-06 10:09 pm UTC

pollymel, 2005-12-10 12:52 am UTC

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emiweebee, 2005-12-06 03:55 am UTC

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sharps, 2005-12-07 12:46 pm UTC

	Right, then. kadath 2005-12-05 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	I'm cooking venison tonight in honor of glooms. :P (Reply to this)(Thread)

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telophase, 2005-12-05 11:52 pm UTC

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puipui, 2005-12-06 02:44 am UTC

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puipui, 2005-12-06 02:45 am UTC

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kadath, 2005-12-06 02:59 am UTC

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squib, 2005-12-06 04:33 am UTC

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entelodont, 2005-12-06 12:41 am UTC

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notjo, 2005-12-06 01:13 am UTC

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ilpalazzo, 2005-12-06 02:49 am UTC

	arymabeth 2005-12-06 12:43 am UTC (link)
	Man, just when I was finally starting to get over that craving for some sausage from the deer my brother killed... (Reply to this)

	hereforthewank 2005-12-06 01:04 am UTC (link)
	Will no one think of the feelings of the poor defenseless plants?? (Reply to this)(Thread)

mistal, 2005-12-06 01:34 am UTC

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(no subject) - hereforthewank, 2005-12-06 03:06 am UTC

tangentialone, 2005-12-06 04:50 am UTC

lovelyzelda, 2005-12-06 10:49 am UTC

	hickorydickory 2005-12-06 01:10 am UTC (link)
	Your icon is awesome. The end. (Reply to this)(Thread)

maev_connacht, 2005-12-06 01:11 am UTC

mistal, 2005-12-06 01:32 am UTC

	notjo 2005-12-06 01:18 am UTC (link)
	First, I wanna second the Icon Lust. Second... well... It has to come out for every vegetarian wank. I live with a vegetarian. Because, when the pandemic flu comes and starts to kill us all, and we have to survive on our wits alone... he can't run that fast. (Reply to this)

	ianthefira 2005-12-06 01:34 am UTC (link)
	This calls for the teal dear icon! I know someone has it! (Reply to this)(Thread)

panthea, 2005-12-06 04:11 pm UTC

sheep_n_wolf, 2005-12-06 04:59 pm UTC

ianthefira, 2005-12-06 05:36 pm UTC

	I read the whole thread. kadath 2005-12-06 02:25 am UTC (link)
	Holy shit, it's a brain trust in there. (Reply to this)

	robinterrae 2005-12-06 02:30 am UTC (link)
	Yay! Hunting wank on the first day of New Jersey's highly contested bear hunt. This just tops my day off! (Reply to this)(Thread)

frequentmouse, 2005-12-06 03:57 am UTC

robinterrae, 2005-12-06 06:27 am UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-06 11:42 am UTC

emiweebee, 2005-12-06 03:58 am UTC

juvenilia
2005-12-06 02:32 am UTC (link)

I've been a vegetarian for 3 years. You know who annoys me most when it comes to the vegetarian debate? It's not meat-eaters. It's not even hunters (hell, I'd have to stop speaking to my father if that were the case). It's "OMG u murdred teh cute fluffy bunnys!!1!one!" vegetarians. PLEASE,

glooms, stop being on my side. Go back to your PETA rally, because you're making the rest of us look like idiots.

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emiweebee, 2005-12-06 03:59 am UTC

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emiweebee, 2005-12-07 04:36 am UTC

juvenilia, 2005-12-08 01:27 am UTC

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juvenilia, 2005-12-07 04:00 am UTC

	dodyskin 2005-12-06 03:09 am UTC (link)
	Hurray! Maybe we should throw in some thinky thoughts about the cost of cheap veg while and really blow glooms's mind. Let's talk United Fruits and regime change in South America! Yeah, baby. Wow. Vamps are made of like, butter in Buffy. Dawn just killed one with a peeved gesture. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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frequentmouse, 2005-12-06 04:01 am UTC

sadako, 2005-12-06 04:40 am UTC

frequentmouse, 2005-12-06 05:11 am UTC

(no subject) - hereforthewank, 2005-12-06 05:40 am UTC

frequentmouse, 2005-12-06 07:11 am UTC

platedlizard, 2005-12-06 07:44 pm UTC

tangentialone
2005-12-06 04:44 am UTC (link)

Animals would die of over population? there are plenty of species that arent hunted that are not over populated. trust me, nature balances things out.

Nature balances things out through 1)predators and 2)starvation. Prey animal population gets too large? Whatever eats them has a good year or five years or whatever, and grows because there's a good food supply. If that isn't enough, they'll starve and that'll kill off more of them. Their population dwindles, while the predator population increases. In the next bit, the predator population is too large to be supported by the now-smaller prey population, and some of them die out through starvation. Fewer predators means the prey population has a chance to grow again... And so on.

Nature's fun!

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	(Anonymous) 2005-12-06 04:49 am UTC (link)
	What happens when they swat a fly? (Reply to this)(Thread)

aerobot, 2005-12-06 12:44 pm UTC

doroc_sabah, 2005-12-06 02:18 pm UTC

aerobot, 2005-12-06 03:19 pm UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-11 10:37 pm UTC

doroc_sabah, 2005-12-11 10:38 pm UTC

pet
2005-12-06 05:28 am UTC (link)

Ugh, hunting wank. Spare me.

I wish well-meaning folks like this would think a little more about quality of life for food animals and wild animals and be a little less knee-jerky OMG DUN KILL THUMPER!!11@! whenever this debate comes up. I eat meat, sure. I try to eat free-range, organically raised meat (venison's great for this! doesn't get more free-range than that), slaughtered humanely and locally, whenever I can. It's dead, it doesn't care if I eat it or not; my conscience just needs to know it had the best possible life before it ended. I also assist in abused horse and dog rescue facilities and have rescued a horse myself, so, no, I'm not an animal hater.

Meat is good for humans. *shrug* It's also quite cheap and nutritious, and it tastes good. I see no moral issue with eating it, as long as the animal wasn't abused or terrorized during its life (something we've got a ways to go on). And if the animal was wild? Then even better, it was living as nature intended before it was killed by a predator and eaten. :)

sorry. I'll clean up the mess, I swear...

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chibikaijuu, 2005-12-06 07:40 am UTC

	lovelyzelda 2005-12-06 11:11 am UTC (link)
	I'm not a big fan of hunting, but how can you own a cat if you flip out like this? Feel free to contradict me, but aren't human hunters more likely to eat what they kill than someone's pet cat? And at least the human's not going to leave a slightly disemboweled deer on the front porch to show their family they love them. Or puke on the rug because they tried to eat squirrel guts. (Reply to this)

	aerobot 2005-12-06 12:42 pm UTC (link)
	Look, kid. Life is cruel. A lion choking a gazelle to death is cruel. Getting killed by a speeding bus is cruel. Having your entire town smushed by a tsunami is cruel. LIFE IS CRUEL, BUT IT'S HOW LIFE WORKS. DEAL. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-07 05:49 am UTC

	doroc_sabah 2005-12-06 02:15 pm UTC (link)
	FLUFFBUNNY TOWNIES AAAAAAGGGHHHH. I feel spectacular teleshame for any/all vegetarian friends of mine. (Reply to this)

	dracothelizard 2005-12-06 03:22 pm UTC (link)
	"WHAT HAVE YOU PEOPLE DONE TO MY INBOX?" Poor OP. Seriously. (Reply to this)

	beandelphiki 2005-12-06 05:16 pm UTC (link)
	Really, I just love incorrigible_'s Stephen Harper icon. Much, much love. (Reply to this)

	v_digitalwytch 2005-12-07 05:59 am UTC (link)
	For those who love to parade around Vegetarian/Vegan diets are the healthiest thing out there, I point out my Mother. Vegetarian lifestyle for 10+ years, carefully researched everything to make sure she was getting her full nutrition, got plenty of exercise, and dead of a heart attack at age 46. Simply stated, you're gonna die when you're gonna die. (Reply to this)

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