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	spleen 2005-12-11 09:00 pm UTC (link)
	This community is for straight people, family of straight people and allies of straight people. Not nearly inclusive enough, bubba! In retaliation, I'm going to set up a "human pride" comm. It'll be for humans, the pets of humans, and all alien supporters of humankind. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	runrunmarch 2005-12-12 01:31 am UTC (link)
	My cockatiel will SO join that group. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	greenling 2005-12-12 02:16 am UTC (link)
	I am far too amused to note that there already pretty much is one, though for totally different reasons. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

wankprophet
2005-12-11 09:03 pm UTC (link)

Why stop with gay pride vs het pride, or black pride vs white pride? So many possible divisions, it's not even funny. Disabled vs abled? Abled: "I'm zilchaplegic and proud of it! Why do the disabled get all the attention -- we should have our own Olympics, dammit!" Blonde pride vs brunette pride? (Hush, redheads, stop making a scene.) The blondes will march the streets, but the entire affair will stall out when they get stuck at a "Stop" sign and wait for days for a "Go" sign to pop up. The brunettes will march, but nobody will notice because they'll be off watching the pretty blondes mill around. Tall pride vs short pride? The short, fed up with the jokes, march on Washington until light rain showers cause flash puddling and they all drown. Meanwhile, the tall will hold their heads up with pride...and be decapicated by a passing zeppelin.

Okay, I've offended enough people for one day.

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	ianthefira 2005-12-11 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	:D I bet I could drown in a puddle~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	amxjm 2005-12-12 07:07 am UTC (link)
	Tall pride vs short pride? "You think you're taller than me?!" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	musette 2005-12-12 07:47 am UTC (link)
	Hush, redheads, stop making a scene. We will never be silenced!! Um yeah, I'll be over here now. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	sharps 2005-12-12 06:56 pm UTC (link)
	I wanted to start a tall pride group once because I couldn't see a single bad thing about being tall apart from... oh yeah... not being able to join short pride groups! I mean, even the best Doctor Who ever is notable for being 6'3" and VERY TALL INDEED. And the least good doctor? 5'6". Obvious correlation, I think... ;D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2005-12-11 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	Whee. How about just goddamn being proud of who you are as a person instead of being proud of one particular word that defines you? I know, I sound too PC for all the drama-hounds. Aww. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2005-12-11 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. Yes. (Reply to this)(Parent)

tourette
2005-12-11 11:58 pm UTC (link)

The thing some people cheerfully fail to remember is that the whole "pride" thing is to do with pride being opposed to shame. What someone is saying with "gay pride" is simply that they're not ashamed to be gay. In cultures where people are so often made to feel shame for deviating from the sexual norms in any way, refusing to be ashamed can be a real help.

At least, this is how I understand the whole "pride" issue, and likewise the issue of "Black Pride" or "[nationality] Pride". It's about feeling good about yourself. Of course, some people will insist on taking it to extremes and holding a very dogmatic view of belonging to this and that group, excluding people who don't "measure up", ie people who are seen as being insufficiently proud. This isn't right, and these people also need to remember about the concepts of inclusion and abandoning shame.

I think that may have been wanky *changes trousers* My apologies.

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	redwarrior 2005-12-13 10:10 pm UTC (link)
	applauds Be proud of what you can do and what you have done, not what label you can stick on your ass. Because in the long run, if someone's going to stick a label on your ass, they can look at all the people that that label is attached to who have done kickass things with their life and say, "Oh, I guess Group X isn't so bad..." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lurker32 2005-12-11 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	Those poor straight people, having to struggle to be recognized as valuable members of society. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	cmikhailovic 2005-12-11 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	For rls. If you are a member of the dominant group, general society is bent upon validating you, so STFU. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	flightstothesea 2005-12-11 11:58 pm UTC (link)
	It's so difficult for us, sniffle! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	angora 2005-12-11 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	Meh. Is there a My sexual orientation is none of your damn business community? 'Cause I'm feeling like joining that. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	gloria_mundi 2005-12-11 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	I could create one, if you like. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	drworm 2005-12-11 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	Penguinsexual! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2005-12-11 11:51 pm UTC (link)
	I'd join. Hell, I still don't know my orientation beyond "I think that guy/girl/giant robot is sexy". -Seiberwing (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	annabelle_lee 2005-12-12 12:35 am UTC (link)
	If there was, I'd join. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	coffee_mug 2005-12-11 10:04 pm UTC (link)
	I remember we had a guy from some GLBT organization come talk to our class in school once. He made us fill out a "Straight Questionaire" that included questions like, "Do your family members know you're straight?" & "When did you first realize you were straight?". That? Made sense. Brought up points, made people think. This, however? Not so much. (Reply to this)