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token ([info]chaimonkey) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2005-12-13 00:18:00


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mommy, whas racist?
It's admin time on [info]feminist again, and this time the hot button issue is: racism
335 comments as I type this.

Specifically, reverse racism. (formatting theirs)
Reverse racism is not a valid concept: You may not bring up points which imply reverse racism or explicitly say that you believe it to be a real threat. Racism implies powersomething which institutionally whites have, and people of color(POC) do not. Therefore, "reverse racism" does not exist. Prejudice, which is what people often mean when referring to "reverse racism" or "reverse sexism", does exist (see the comments for examples). But it must be noted that this does not in any way hold the same power or significance as racism or sexism. Not even close. Implying that it does is not acceptable.
Aaand they're off!

[info]princessmerbear respectfully disagrees, and receives a prompt mod note.
[info]99catsaway cries academic-centrism
[info]onewayfreak: obligatory "I'm leaving" comment
[info]clean_circles seyz: words mean what they mean!
(which results in more mod-noting, and therefore more "I'm leaving")
[info]beandelphiki: All you folks disagreeing are racist!
[info]spaztasterastic packs her shit up
[info]x_mass is so banned

Spunk-tastic!



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(Anonymous)
2005-12-13 06:47 am UTC (link)
beandelphiki is a moron (I know, I know, this is a snark community and my remark should therefore be more clever...but my brain's not working).

Just for the record, beandelphiki also posted on that inane giftedadults eljay comm that otf_wank had so much fun giggling over a while back.

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(no subject) - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-12-13 06:20 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2005-12-13 11:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2005-12-16 10:37 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-12-13 07:09 am UTC (link)
x_mass wasn't actually banned - the "get the fuck out" comment wasn't made by a mod.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-13 07:12 am UTC

[info]vigilanterodent
2005-12-13 07:16 am UTC (link)
I think I need "This is why people think our movement is crazy. Please just fucking shut up already. P.S. your MOM is a whore is a tool of the partiarchy", or somesuch sentiment, on an icon.

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[info]mael
2005-12-13 07:16 am UTC (link)
Noes, feminist, noes! Don't deny me my daily entertainment!

Watching you gals tear each other apart brings me great joy, really. Don't stifle creativity in e-maiming!

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(no subject) - [info]spleen, 2005-12-13 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-14 05:48 am UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2005-12-13 07:48 am UTC (link)
Apparently "safe space" means "restricted to those who agree with [info]welsey space." Who knew?

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[info]khym_chanur
2005-12-13 07:49 am UTC (link)
Title from x_mass's comment: "Censorship!!! Use of the moderators intitutionalised power to censor and oppress others speach"

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!

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(no subject) - [info]caribbeanblue, 2005-12-13 07:41 pm UTC

[info]ladysorka
2005-12-13 07:59 am UTC (link)
I... I have issues with this. I mean, you can't moderate language (in the general sense). You can try (and oh, do the French try), and you can moderate what goes into dictionaries, but you can't moderate general usage.

Language changes when a change is needed - or not needed, in the case of things like "irregardless" - but language... changes and fluctuates. You can't push that change on.

I mean, do I think we need to differentiate institutionalized racism from that guy down the street who hates people who don't have the skin color as him? Yeah, we do. But changing it to "racism" and "prejudice" is actually a disservice to the language, because you lose a level of clarification. Instead of saying "Johnny is racist." you have to add extra words and say "Johnny is prejudiced against black people."

And if there's one thing the English language does, it's get rid of all those unnecessary words.

So, you know, I vote for "institutionalized -ism" and "-ism", since, you know, it just makes a bit more sense.

*gets out a towel*

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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-12-13 02:27 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2005-12-16 10:39 pm UTC

[info]v_digitalwytch
2005-12-13 07:59 am UTC (link)
With that much 'priviledged white person guilt' going around, some folks there need some Zoloft.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-13 08:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]v_digitalwytch, 2005-12-13 08:21 am UTC

[info]moonpigeon
2005-12-13 08:04 am UTC (link)
I'm not even going to pretend I understand this shit.

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(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-12-13 10:19 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]isobelsomething, 2005-12-13 06:04 pm UTC

[info]qem_chibati
2005-12-13 08:46 am UTC (link)
@.@;

I.... Was of the impression..... that calling someone a person of colour was a highly offensive term.

o_O; But then I'm not American.

And only whites can be racist? Everyone else is prejudiced? But what about racism in other countries?

There was a wank a little while ago where a girl who was particially Japanese was shocked by the rascist venom a person threw at her, who was Chinese.

Not to mention "white" races can be quite vindictive to other "white" races of a different culture.

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(no subject) - [info]spleen, 2005-12-13 09:53 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-12-13 12:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-13 12:14 pm UTC
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[info]wankismyfandom
2005-12-13 08:47 am UTC (link)
I think I hate all of them. Does that make me the biggest oppressor of all?

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[info]ignatius
2005-12-13 09:15 am UTC (link)
No wonder so many WOC don't like this community

Awww. feminist, it's just like fandom_wank, in a way.

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[info]monkeyarcher
2005-12-13 09:29 am UTC (link)
I think we have viewed a true 'Feminazi'.

(Pass my apologies onto Godwin.)

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(no subject) - [info]napoleon, 2005-12-13 05:22 pm UTC

[info]poisonyoulove
2005-12-13 10:33 am UTC (link)
I'm confused. So . . . communities on Livejournal can make up their own definitions of words and ban anyone who uses the words "wrong"?

This is fun! From now on, forks shall be referred to as knives, knives shall be referred to as pointy spoons, and spoons shall be known as hummis.
Henceforth, anyone caught referring to utensils as "utensils" shall be OMG!Skewered by a fLoPpitY fLoO!111!111eleventyplate!

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2005-12-13 06:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]poisonyoulove, 2005-12-14 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - tourette, 2005-12-14 12:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]poisonyoulove, 2005-12-14 05:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-12-14 01:29 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]mastervex, 2005-12-15 02:17 pm UTC

[info]omega
2005-12-13 10:42 am UTC (link)
So... much... splooge...

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[info]lukita
2005-12-13 11:32 am UTC (link)
vocabulary vomit

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[info]doomsday
2005-12-13 11:35 am UTC (link)
clean_circles: Regardless, racism is racism and while you think of it as an anomaly, discriminating against white, able-bodied males is just as bad as discriminating against a visible minority.

wesley the mod: No it is not. That is what this post is saying, and it is not up for debate. You WILL be warned for this in the future.

Wow, way to make something subjective 100% objective.

And to think, this entire thing could have been avoided - and we would have been spared beandelphiki's tl;dr elitist wankery - if they had simply added "institutional" in front of the "racism" in the original post. I'm with yitzhak_groupie; you can't threaten to ban people for not using your favored meaning of a word that has multiple legitimate and common definitions. It has nothing to do with questioning institutional racism's existence.

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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-12-13 12:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-12-13 05:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-13 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-12-14 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-14 05:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-12-14 09:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-14 10:23 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-12-16 12:19 pm UTC

[info]caffeine_fairy
2005-12-13 12:38 pm UTC (link)
Obligatory "get out of my belief system, you're making it look stupid" post...

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(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-12-13 01:27 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2005-12-13 11:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2005-12-13 11:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-14 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-14 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2005-12-18 06:59 pm UTC
Way too serious, but venting
[info]kannaophelia
2005-12-13 01:59 pm UTC (link)
What annoys me most about the post and comments and hey, the comm in general, is the assumption that if you disagree with a specific theoretical position you're a) evil or B) ignorant or c) both. No, sorry, sometimes you're informed, you've thought it over, and you still disagree. Or, in this case, think using "racism" to refer only to institutionalised racism and using a weak as water term like "prejudiced" for every other form of racism is fucking stupid.

They seem to think that feminism is something with a long set of rules that you just have to memorise. It shouldn't be such mind-blowing news to them that hey, sometimes feminists can strongly disagree with each other, omgNO!!!!!

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Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]vigilanterodent, 2005-12-13 03:47 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]napoleon, 2005-12-13 05:21 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - (Anonymous), 2005-12-14 06:48 am UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-12-14 09:41 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]mastervex, 2005-12-13 06:05 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]charmian, 2005-12-13 07:19 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - hereforthewank, 2005-12-13 09:03 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-12-14 01:30 am UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]grand_sealink, 2005-12-14 03:44 pm UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]palefire, 2005-12-17 06:55 am UTC
Re: Way too serious, but venting - [info]palefire, 2005-12-17 06:57 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-12-13 02:12 pm UTC (link)
Woah. If I'd known I could redefine words whenever the hell I felt like it, I would do it all the time in my college essays!

Wanna argue with my concepts, professor? Sorry, that makes you racist and sexist, so now you're banned! Outta the staffroom with you!

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(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2005-12-17 06:58 am UTC

[info]eilan
2005-12-13 04:00 pm UTC (link)
[info]feminist is getting wankier with every passing day. I am surprised they haven't yet banned 50% of the members for commiting crimes such as deleting comments for grammar errors and for daring to have another opinion as the mods.

I don't know who is wankier, the mods or [info]beandelphiki.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-13 07:41 pm UTC

[info]isntitironic
2005-12-13 04:25 pm UTC (link)
It is my fondest hope for humanity that somebody, nobody will fucking care anymore.

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[info]frau_eva
2005-12-13 05:54 pm UTC (link)
God, I hate the feminist community. I've joined a bunch of comms made up of refugees of it, and MAN have I heard some stories. And now it looks like it's becoming even more of a comm where no one can be a feminist and *gasp* have different opinions. Seriously, this "Either you're with us or against us" notion has to be the worst thing about dealing with feminists. I joined to get away from black-and-white thinking, for god's sakes.

Also, thank SWEET MERCIFUL JESUS for Chiranka saying what I want to say every time this comes up. Not everywhere in the world is ruled by white people. It's amazing that in their attempts to be as PC as possible, they've become even more culturally ignorant in the process. Because if its legal to deny me housing or entry into a bar in Japan completely because I'm a "Gaijin," then fuck this "white people rule everywhere" bullshit.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-14 12:01 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2005-12-17 07:01 am UTC

[info]hristaesir
2005-12-13 06:34 pm UTC (link)
What, so white people aren't a minority ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD?

What about Japan, where foreigners can't hold property, and laws saying you can't deny foreigners access to restaurants/bars/bath houses are rarely enforced? I mean, if not being able to hold property isn't institutionalized I damn well don't know what is.

Hell, while we're in that part of the world, what about the thing where the Chinese, the Japanese, and the Koreans all have some level of massive hate-ons for each other? A Chinese person hating all Japanese isn't racist because they're not white? Okay.

And how about the Irish? "White people" used to hate the Irish, and they ARE white!

And how about the thing in Los Angeles where the black kids and the latino kids hate each other and have periodic race-related GIANT BATTLES IN HIGH SCHOOLS? They're both minority groups, so that can't be racism either! Never mind that I think latinos may actually be the majority in LA by now (and if not they're close).

It's funny because they're talking about racism, but they're being incredibly ethnocentric while they're doing it.

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(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2005-12-13 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - hereforthewank, 2005-12-13 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2005-12-13 09:31 pm UTC
Totally OT - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-13 10:51 pm UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]frau_eva, 2005-12-14 02:23 am UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-14 02:27 am UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]frau_eva, 2005-12-14 02:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-12-13 11:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2005-12-14 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-14 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2005-12-14 06:14 pm UTC
sidenote: - [info]belafarinrod, 2005-12-13 07:48 pm UTC
Re: sidenote: - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-13 10:48 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-12-14 08:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - tourette, 2005-12-14 12:55 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-14 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-12-14 05:42 am UTC
Nice and ranty! - (Anonymous), 2005-12-14 04:33 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]twoiskewl, 2005-12-14 04:58 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]gal_montag, 2005-12-15 02:24 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - (Anonymous), 2005-12-16 05:48 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]gal_montag, 2005-12-16 05:42 pm UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]skewed_tartan, 2006-01-13 09:22 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]gal_montag, 2006-01-13 08:20 pm UTC
r u serios? u cannot be serios! - [info]salacious, 2006-01-22 01:25 am UTC
Re: r u serios? u cannot be serios! - [info]gal_montag, 2006-01-22 03:45 am UTC
Re: r u serios? u cannot be serios! - [info]chaimonkey, 2006-01-22 07:44 am UTC
Re: r u serios? u cannot be serios! - [info]gal_montag, 2006-01-22 04:30 pm UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]vigilanterodent, 2005-12-14 05:12 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]hristaesir, 2005-12-14 07:53 am UTC
Re: Nice and ranty! - [info]jat_sapphire, 2005-12-14 05:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2005-12-15 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-12-16 05:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2005-12-16 05:27 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-12-13 07:19 pm UTC (link)
What pisses me off is that everyone is saying that the dissenters are pissed because they're white and are therefore arguing that whites can be oppressed and how horrible this is.

Although white people can be oppressed, I'm fucking pissed because the current definition excludes all of the Eastern landmass and their history. Racism has existed in those areas since before colonial America; even before the white man was forming structured societies. And yet that isn't racism and shouldn't be included in the definition because it's POC vs POC?

WTF?

Dismissing a whole landmass like that, made almost exclusively of POC, *is* racist.

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