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The Grand Duchess of somethingorother ([info]sashenka) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-01-01 17:37:00
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Current mood:WTF?!
Current music:If I Only Were a Goth by Voltaire

Grabbed from a mousie at Wank Report

FTM is an LJ comm for discussing themes and issues relating to Female-to-Male transgender issues. [info]sum_won posts about coming out to a confused sister who doesn't really get what the difference between feeling a different gender and feeling a different race. (Which made me flash back to Transmetropolitan something fierce.)

The first few responses are fairly stock stupid; your sister is a horrible bigot; stock subculture support; blah blah blah I have no reading comprehension; I don't realize that bathrooms are separate because of genitalia;

[info]socialshrapnel comes along and cue the wank...
I kinda agree with your sister.
You can't say you feel like one thing rather than another if you haven't experienced both.
I'm sure plenty of females have the same gender in their head as a lot of FTMs...they just don't see the point in mutilating their bodies for it. My sister is far more masculinethan me but wouldn't dream of changing her body even if it was socially acceptable, free, and painless!
Gender Dysphoria is a psychiatric condition and like all psychiatric conditions has many different ways in which it can be cured. And it has to be cured...because who'd want to feel that way forever?
Sometimes I think most transexuals are really really fucked up in the head :/

You see, Socialshrapnel is a an Internet Psychiatrist. No, really, s/h/it really has a dregree.

p0wnd. It turns out socialshrapnel used to be FTM or something.

And now we find at least a small part of where the animosity might have come from... or not.

Other highlights include:

You're not educated. You just have a degree. Those are two different things.

I feel like a giraffe. Make me a giraffe now...don't question my motives...just change my body!


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jenova
2006-01-02 12:48 am UTC (link)
You're not educated. You just have a degree. Those are two different things.

*applauds*

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2006-01-02 01:14 am UTC (link)
Fuckin' word. XD

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[info]rachelmap
2006-01-02 03:46 am UTC (link)
Well put!

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[info]aerobot
2006-01-02 05:59 am UTC (link)
*standing ovation*

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[info]lizzypaul
2006-01-02 01:07 am UTC (link)
...I don't believe in gender identity as anything other than a social construct.

Good for you, sweetie. Maybe next you can stop believing in gravity. Or, better yet, stop believing that you need air to breathe and go take a big gulp in a swimming pool.

I have no problem believing that she has a degree. She sounds like every recent psych graduate I've ever met, running around diagnosing total strangers, touting out of context the bs their professors spewed.

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[info]doomsday
2006-01-02 02:01 am UTC (link)
Heh, I know the type, like the girl I used to work with in a sock store while I was in college, who used to say, "I don't need to work here - I have a psychology degree! It's so pathetic to work in a sock store!" and would email the owner all the time to talk about the disgusting inappropriateness of socks with pictures of bikinis on them or slippers with a pin-up girl pattern or our evil secular music, and would cut the word "cracksmoker" out of all of our backroom notes to each other.

They can be a pretentious lot, can't they?

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[info]aerobot
2006-01-02 06:00 am UTC (link)
I have no problem believing that she has a degree. She sounds like every recent psych graduate I've ever met, running around diagnosing total strangers, touting out of context the bs their professors spewed.

.... That disturbs me greatly.

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flightstothesea
2006-01-02 09:35 am UTC (link)
Sigh, this is why I'm changing my major to English.

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[info]mathilde
2006-01-02 01:36 pm UTC (link)
My sister has a psych degree. She states, and I have to concur, that most people get psych degrees in an effort to figure out what's wrong with their own brains. Some, alas, never find out.
Course, I don't think "being a pretentious eejit" is in the DSM-IV.

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(no subject) - [info]gunshou, 2006-01-02 05:09 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-01-03 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Actually 'Social Shrapnel' is a guy, called Dickie. He's intersexed, was brought up as a girl, thought he was ftm, then realised he was actually biologically male along. That's why his backlash is so weird.

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(no subject) - [info]lizzypaul, 2006-01-04 03:39 am UTC
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[info]bronzed
2006-01-02 01:18 am UTC (link)
I found this link great:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/socialshrapnel/86453.html
Someone else in the original wank pointed it out. Socialshrapnel or whoever is just all bent out of shape because now that they bulemia'd themself to being underweight, none of their ED friends will talk to them.

This is an ace quote too:
"Oh and you are fascists...you impose your 'rules' about transsexuality and don't let anyone question them"

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[info]sashenka
2006-01-02 01:27 am UTC (link)
Wow. I just did the math and she wants to be about 80 lbs >_> eww.

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[info]drworm
2006-01-02 01:23 am UTC (link)
Oh geez, [info]ftm is a hotbed of wank, which is why I never joined. It's like, once you get your penis, you have to show it off or something.

"I woke up this morning with a bad hangover
And my penis was missing again.
This happens all the time.
It's detachable."

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[info]adora_spintriae
2006-01-02 02:35 am UTC (link)
(Which made me flash back to Transmetropolitan something fierce.)

I was thinking South Park and negroplasty.

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[info]oxydosic
2006-01-02 02:37 am UTC (link)
You can't say you feel like one thing rather than another if you haven't experienced both.

Earth logic? Hello?

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redwarrior
2006-01-02 04:07 am UTC (link)
Whoa, someone prevent me from punching the "doctor" bitch.

And anyone ever notice that whenever someone thinks queers are "bad" or "wrong", the first thing they compare their actions (marriage, sex reassignment) to that of animals?

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[info]azhidahaki
2006-01-02 04:29 am UTC (link)
Well a clique of you went to my journal and laughed at my dead pets....I've never met such a collection of horrible people outside of a neo nazi rally!

It's probably really wrong of me, but I can't stop laughing...

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-02 05:38 am UTC (link)
As the (also transgendered) mousie, whose wanks have never been picked up before, thanks. :D

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[info]aerobot
2006-01-02 05:58 am UTC (link)
Seriously...people are allowed to insult my intelligence and a degree i worked for years on...

Maybe it's because you were flouncing it around so it could validate your stupid and insipid comments.

Serves you right, really.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-01-02 09:48 pm UTC

[info]issendai
2006-01-02 03:26 pm UTC (link)
I doubt you would've been bi if you'd been born with a male body.

*blinks*

The Earth logic, it lives not here. If I were to change my sexual orientation because of a secret longing to be male, wouldn't I be... a dyke? And how does this person explain all of the FTM gay men and MTF lesbians?

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[info]sagralisse
2006-01-02 06:19 pm UTC (link)
Socialshrapnel's screenname kinda screams "troll" doesn't it.

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[info]greenling
2006-01-03 12:45 am UTC (link)
I feel like a giraffe. Make me a giraffe now...don't question my motives...just change my body!

On what planet does "years of therapy, significant potential to run into doctors that refuse to acknowledge the diagnostic criteria as valid, Harry Benjamin standards, years of full-time living required for hormones, more therapy for each individual surgery, and always remember that THIS WILL NOT CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOR THE BETTER other than fixing the neurosis itself" mean "don't question me"?

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-03 04:24 am UTC (link)
socialshrapnel is really a boy, anyway.
dickie, dickie. must you always be the center of the drama?

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sceach
2006-01-03 04:58 am UTC (link)
*sets it on fire*

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[info]marciamarcia
2006-01-03 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Go Stillinhell, rocking the reminder that the whole world doesn't follow the American educational system. FTOTZ, baby! What? What?

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