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Shannon ([info]bardsong) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-01-03 02:11:00
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Current mood:Prettiful

Ooh, it's publisher wank!
A small, cute ickle baby wank for your Tuesday.
It seems ironic that there would be wank about erotic romance, doesn't it? But there is.

Over on the blog of Jaynie R., an editor and aspiring erotic romance writer Jaynie stirs up the splooge by posting an anonymous comment bashing Elloras Cave, a leading publisher of romantic erotica.

"It doesn't surprise me. I know for a sad fact that EC doesn't give a damn about
most of their authors. Only the ones who kiss ass.If you aren't an ass kisser, they
have no use for you. just your books.They just love to screw their authors over."

Naturally, many Elloras Cave authors leap in to defend themselves.
The amusing thing is that now there's a sequel to this wank, which has not reached wankiness in itself, but the day is still young.

Edited because I accidentally snipped a bit of the original anonymous wank out of the link.


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[info]meril
2006-01-03 09:50 am UTC (link)
Mice! Everywhere mice!

If the mouse was going to squeek she should have been a bit more specific. I dislike it when mice don't bring us good gossip. :)

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. I want to know what skeletons are in the closet!

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*dies giggling*
[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-01-03 11:22 am UTC (link)
Oh my god the bookcovers! Look at Cosmic Hearts!

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*joins you*
[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 04:37 pm UTC (link)
The Orb of Atriss rips off the title sequence from The Tomorrow People.

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Re: *joins you*
[info]the_wanlorn
2006-01-03 10:24 pm UTC (link)
I read that as "The Orb of Ass Rips" first and tried to figure out why on earth anyone would write a book about a farting eye. Or an eye that can see farts.

I need to stop reading badfic.

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Re: *joins you*
[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 10:27 pm UTC (link)
You don't, of course, need me to point out that The Orb of Ass Rips would probably be a better story than what they put out.

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Re: *joins you*
[info]darkeyes
2006-01-03 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Having read "The Orb of Artiss", I can say with all certainty, that you're right. "The Orb of Ass Rips" probably would make a better story.

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Re: *dies giggling*
[info]threegoldfish
2006-01-03 08:32 pm UTC (link)
God, I know! It's like someone gave the artist some modeling software and said "Go crazy!" and meant it literally. My roommate has a bunch of those and they all suck.

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Re: *dies giggling*
[info]ymfaery
2006-01-03 09:11 pm UTC (link)
NOT. LOOKING.

One of the local Waldenbooks Borders Express has a bookcase of those things. The covers suck in the suckiest way possible.

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Re: *dies giggling*
[info]pepperlandgirl4
2006-01-04 05:43 am UTC (link)
I find that's true for a lot of epublishers. I think it's because they don't want to hire real artists. I can always tell the publishers who treat their covers like real marketing tools, and who just want to throw something up as a placeholder.

Sadly, very few epublishers see them as genuine marketing tools. I can think of maybe one or two that don't make me cringe...most of the time.

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Re: *dies giggling*
[info]innsmouth_eyes
2006-01-04 08:24 am UTC (link)
I know, I work at a Borders and I have to bite my tongue every time somebody brings one to the counter. If there's anything worse than ugly Poser art it's ugly Poser art that's supposed to be sexy. And that means Renderotica is the worst place on the web.

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*bing bing bing*
[info]telesilla
2006-01-03 12:35 pm UTC (link)
We have a winner!

However, grudge holding and lashing out publicly seems a bit like high school to me. It's almost like gathering a crowd of your posse and asking them to help you kick dirt in the face of your offender. It's holding others hostage to an argument that should be dealt with privately.

Let's hear it for Snacky's Law!

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[info]telesilla
2006-01-03 01:12 pm UTC (link)
Incidentally, if anyone here loves them some badfic and wants a good laugh, go looking through the EC catalog.

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 07:00 pm UTC (link)
I agree. I'm on the Yahoo group, because I keep hoping for good smutty excerpts, but yeah, some of them... not so much.

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[info]funwithrage
2006-01-03 07:01 pm UTC (link)
A friend of mine gave me a bunch of e-books, knowing that I like the occasional trashy romance, and...okay, on the one hand, I like nonvirgin heroines and the word "cock" being used, and, on the other, the writing sucks donkey balls.

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Well, I haven't actually put down money on any of the books. I don't really want to either. Because... yeah.

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[info]puipui
2006-01-04 12:01 am UTC (link)
Any of them with really good really bad sex scenes you want to recommend? I loves me some horrible euphemisms. Or, even better, euphemistic phrases. Fun!

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[info]oxydosic
2006-01-03 02:02 pm UTC (link)
Dear God..so much wanking and crappy romance novels on all sides. And i thought the Harlequin covers used to traumatize me..

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[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 04:21 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if the Harlequin Manga will be as horrific as the regular books...

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[info]tekenduis
2006-01-03 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Harlequin is doing a manga imprint? I think something in my brain just broke, because all I can say when I think about it is "buh".

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[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 04:30 pm UTC (link)
Harlequin pink and Harlequin Violet. Violet appears to be "Lady Comics", while Pink seems to be more shojou.

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[info]tekenduis
2006-01-03 04:36 pm UTC (link)
I am at once horrified and.. terribly terribly curious. God help me.

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[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 04:37 pm UTC (link)
Same here. Same here.

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[info]nekoneko
2006-01-03 06:19 pm UTC (link)
I think they've actually been out for a while, just not in English... which might mean 80s-style manga. I forget where I read about it; maybe in an old issue of Wizard? I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment.

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[info]phosfate
2006-01-03 10:28 pm UTC (link)
They're translations, yeah. So at least it's not Harlequin Amerimanga.

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[info]meril
2006-01-03 09:34 pm UTC (link)
They are. It's the regular books, except in manga format. And even worse, the English editions are printed in pink and purple. (I only wish I had been able to scan it, but I didn't actually buy the things.)

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[info]platedlizard
2006-01-03 09:52 pm UTC (link)
You're... you're kidding me. Right? *is still traumitized from when Mercedes Lackey started writing for Luna*

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[info]mrbimble
2006-01-03 04:26 pm UTC (link)
I cruised around the EllorasCave website a little. Dara Joy?? do they "publish" her or were they just referring to her? Has anyone read her? It's like really really REALLY badfic and I cannot understand how any publishing house gave her a contract.

::weeps for the romance genre::

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[info]jadelennox
2006-01-03 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Dara Joy is the Worst Author Ever. Oh Rejar, why do you make me weep?

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 07:10 pm UTC (link)
If it makes you feel better, the only romance reader I've ever encountered who liked Rejar was my little sister, whose taste I find questionable. It seems like I read bad reviews for that book on a couple of the major romance novel reviewing websites... I know I did on All about romance.

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[info]darkeyes
2006-01-03 05:59 pm UTC (link)
It's like really really REALLY badfic and I cannot understand how any publishing house gave her a contract.


Clearly, you haven't read many 'stories' from Ellora's Cave.

I'd say about 98% of their entire catalogue is shitcrappy badfic. And I'm being generous.

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[info]charmian
2006-01-03 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Word.

I flipped through some of those, and they were subfanfictional. I wonder how much they get paid for them?

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[info]darkeyes
2006-01-04 12:21 am UTC (link)
No idea really, alls I know is that most of them aren't worth the epaper they're printed on. But then one reads this in the wank report...

I mean, we can bitch and moan about EC, but honestly do you think Jaid Black cares? That woman is a freaking millionare. She could care less what we post on this blog.


And all I can think is.."What? But...but.. why?.I've read her books, how's that even possibly?"

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[info]charmian
2006-01-04 12:52 am UTC (link)
Well... she owns the company, so that would give her some $, but I recognize the name and urgh, you can read stuff for free on the internet that is better.

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[info]funwithrage
2006-01-04 02:33 am UTC (link)
Also: "Jaid." That's all.

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[info]pepperlandgirl4
2006-01-04 05:39 am UTC (link)
FWIW, the authors get 35-40% of gross for royalties, and EC is the largest romance erotica epublisher. Some authors have told me that they sell more copies of one book with EC then all other books with all other publishers combined.

IOW, it'll take 50 sales to make approximately $100 and the big EC authors sell thousands of copies.

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[info]charmian
2006-01-04 09:03 am UTC (link)
35-40% of gross? Damn... Well, the writing at EC might not be very good, but the business is. 0_o

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[info]pepperlandgirl4
2006-01-04 06:00 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, epublishers generally pay a much higher royalty rate because the production costs are generally non-existant, unlike "traditional" publishing. 35-40 is standard, so any epublisher trying to pay a lower rate will be generally ignored by those who know better...

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 07:02 pm UTC (link)
*Whispers* I have. I have a soft spot for romance badfic, though, and the one book I read had some hot steamy smut, which made up, kind of, for a certain, um, lack of decent characters and plot.

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[info]pyratejenni
2006-01-06 03:22 pm UTC (link)
They don't publish her. Actually, Dara Joy isn't publishing much of anything these days: her publisher's suing her for breach of contract.

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-06 07:16 pm UTC (link)
That sounds more like career suicide to me than posting negative opinions about a publisher on someone's blog. :P

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[info]tekenduis
2006-01-03 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Only the ones who kiss ass.If you aren't an love to screw their authors over.

I really hope she's not an adherant of the Anne Rice School of Editing.

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[info]bardsong
2006-01-03 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Actually, no. I apparently am. How did a whole line of text disappear like that? *Goes to fix*

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-03 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Is it me, or do those covers look like they were made with The Sims 2 picture mode...?

Das Maus

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[info]darkeyes
2006-01-03 06:29 pm UTC (link)
They are hideous aren't they?

That there, is untalented, unadulterated, wanton Poser abuse *shudders*

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[info]doroc_sabah
2006-01-03 10:27 pm UTC (link)
Where's your icon from? :O

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[info]darkeyes
2006-01-03 11:38 pm UTC (link)
It was made by one colorfilter on LJ. Lovely isn't it. ^_^


Her Horoscope Icons are located Here


Enjoy!

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