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I never said I was a victim of ([info]circumstance) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-01-03 19:10:00


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The gals at [info]feminist are at it again.

[info]misfratz posts some links to articles about domestic violence inflicted on men by women. These articles, she claims, are evidence of a vast antifeminist conspiracy to discredit women who are abused.

When several community members respond that, while the articles may be biased, men can be abused by women, [info]misfratz flips her shit.

[info]robynchick, for instance, posts an explanation of why she felt the articles were valid, to which [info]misfratz responds:
Read the actual post, for fucks sake. Or just sod off and cry for the poor little men whilst women are being actually killed. This community is not feminist at all.


The wanky remarks fly fast and furious from there on in.


Now, bitchy infighting is rather common in the [info]feminist community, but what makes this truly wanky is [info]misfratz's followup post:
Is this community actually for feminists (ie for defending rights of women)?

(Because if it is, why should I have to preface a post about groups that try to attack women and trivialise violence against women by saying how great men are, in order to avoid being attacked by people who think the purpose of feminism is to defend men?)


And of course, thus follows plenty more spooge.



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(Anonymous)
2006-01-04 01:44 am UTC (link)
so what IS the feminine version of a circle-jerk?

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-04 01:59 am UTC (link)
No way can misfratz be for real. No. Way.

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[info]notjo
2006-01-04 02:01 am UTC (link)
must.not.wank.in.the.wank.

must.not.wank.in.the.wank.

must.not.wank.in.the.wank.

Okay, I think I may be able to not get all messy over journalfen.

Yay.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2006-01-04 02:04 am UTC (link)
There are some days when I am ashamed of my gender.

Most of those days occur when I peak at the comments in [info]feminist.

Coincidence? I think not!

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2006-01-04 02:04 am UTC (link)
Violence against men is indeed very, very bad, but violence against women is far worse...

Uh... yeah. I personally think that violence against anyone is bad, but, whatever...

Fanatics are always fun to watch, but after a while they make my head hurt.

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[info]mcity
2006-01-04 02:09 am UTC (link)
OMG I'M LEAVING THE GENDER FOREVAR.

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2006-01-04 04:36 am UTC
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[info]gal_montag
2006-01-04 02:13 am UTC (link)
Wow. I wonder if getting smacked with the feminist peen causes bruises.

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2006-01-04 03:35 am UTC

dracothelizard
2006-01-04 02:20 am UTC (link)
Okay, is there any group, minority OR majority there isn't a conspiracy against?

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[info]oxydosic
2006-01-04 02:22 am UTC (link)
And people wonder why some think feminists are man-hating wackjobs.

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[info]starkers
2006-01-04 02:24 am UTC (link)
It's stuff like this that makes me ashamed to be a feminist (ie - supportive of male-female equality). I WAS PROUD UNTIL YOU BITCHES RUINED IT FOR ME.

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[info]frequentmouse
2006-01-04 02:49 am UTC (link)
Actually, [info]delphyne makes me ashamed to be human.

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[info]moonjaguar
2006-01-04 02:51 am UTC (link)
All this needs is Ginmar.

Every time someone in a net argument gripes about male privilege, I picture a bunch of guys cutting ahead of a long line somewhere shouting, "Male privilege! Male privilege!"

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[info]lush_rimbaud
2006-01-04 03:23 am UTC (link)
This woman is like the Ghost of Ginmar-Wank Past.

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[info]lizzypaul
2006-01-04 03:33 am UTC (link)
When you resort to using a wack-job group like Fathers For Life to prove a point, you've already lost.

There might--might--have been a good point in there. Unfortunately, [info]misfratz is completely batshit.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-04 04:24 am UTC (link)
I'm outraged by that article. Our society will never be equal until there are as many female abusers as male ones! We must strive to close this shocking gender gap!


...oh, silly me. I forgot. Feminism isn't about EQUALITY! It's about the struggle to create a reverse Gorean society where men take their rightful places as mindless labor-bots with penises.


Dumb bitches.

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[info]sanguinary
2006-01-04 04:49 am UTC (link)
women like misfratz are the reason why, when my soc teacher asked us who were feminists in my 250+ class, only five people raised their hands. And three of those were men.

fuck you, I refuse to stop calling myself a feminist because some idiots keep dragging its name through the mud.

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(no subject) - [info]caoilainn, 2006-01-04 05:21 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-01-04 06:29 am UTC (link)
The funny thing is, despite my disgust for misandrist feminists, just today I read a book that convinced me that the patterns of domestic abuse commited by men against women in any patriarchal society, including the American one, is different in kind and worse in degree than what women can do to their male partners in those societies.

But it probably helped that the guy acknowledged that women can be violent and aggressive; calmly and coherently pointed out how he thought that differed from men's violence and aggression towards their female partners (as well as from gay men's violence toward their male partners and gay women's violence toward their female partners); made sure to differntiate between the tactics/behaviors of regular men and abusers; and was able to draw on specific examples from his years of doing intensive counseling work with thousands of abusers (many of whom disingenuously claimed to have been abused by their female partners).

I recommend the book, if anyone's interested in reading about the topic beyond the frothing spooge. It's this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425191656/ref=dp_return_1/103-3682504-6275058?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=507846&s=books

Or, if you want more frothing spooge, you can probably find some in the customer reviews there.

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[info]sashenka
2006-01-04 09:06 am UTC (link)
Nothing is more feminist than thinking that all women are victims and all men are stronger than women. Wow.

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-01-05 01:18 am UTC

[info]eilan
2006-01-04 02:05 pm UTC (link)
So, I read all the spooge there is at the moment.

And now, I need a reading comprehension check.

Do some people there rdally say 'Women are only abusers to abusive men'? So, essantially saying a woman only abuses a man because he has been abusing her?

And they think the peeple defending the articles are victim blamers???

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[info]aerobot
2006-01-04 03:35 pm UTC (link)
I'm kinda skimming this, but geez. Is this some wanky fandom community, or a community devoted to a rights movement? I really can't tell.

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(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2006-01-04 06:37 pm UTC
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[info]marciamarcia
2006-01-04 04:12 pm UTC (link)
I am woman, hear me wank.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2006-01-04 04:36 pm UTC (link)
(Because if it is, why should I have to preface a post about groups that try to attack women and trivialise violence against women by saying how great men are, in order to avoid being attacked by people who think the purpose of feminism is to defend men?)

Honey, step off now, mmmkay? The purpose of feminism is not to bash men either.

It's about E Q U A L I T Y. Equal pay for equal work. Lessening violence against women by acknowledging that this society is rather badly wonked and screws the boys up to, else why the hell would they be insecure and misconstrued enough in values and in HEAD to think that smackion' their girlfriends around is sparkly and okay?!

Holy holy crap, man. Feminism != misandry.

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2006-01-04 05:42 pm UTC
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[info]selene_avis
2006-01-04 06:27 pm UTC (link)
I've been staying out of it, for obvious reasons. The sad thing is that I can see where both sides are coming from.

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(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2006-01-04 10:01 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2006-01-04 11:56 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2006-01-06 06:53 am UTC
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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-01-04 06:34 pm UTC (link)
You know, every time I see something like this, I have to fight a very strong urge to just stamp my foot and scream "SHUT UP! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP DISCREDITING THE MOVEMENT!" Because I'd be the first to say that it's not right to tell someone to shut up just because you disagree with them, but my god this kind of misandry plays right into the hands of the people who so desperately want to smear the entire women's rights movement as prejudiced jackasses.

Why you gotta hurt me, feminism? ;_;

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(no subject) - [info]mercutia, 2006-01-04 08:37 pm UTC

[info]toasterkitten
2006-01-04 07:11 pm UTC (link)
I am so fucking glad that I'm gay.

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