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the insidious bookworm (jenny_atrox) wrote in otf_wank,
@ 2006-01-27 00:36:00

Current mood:	tired
Current music:	the new Tegan and Sra album. It sucks.

poor kids can wank too!
And this used to be such a nice community.

This one's about class, and some book with a stupid title, and blahblahblah.

http://community.livejournal.com/poor_skills/635063.html

ps-I met Neil Gaiman tonight.

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	ashenmote 2006-01-27 08:11 am UTC (link)
	I love the 'You really need to listen to me because I'm the bearer of great wisdom, and if you don't it's just the sort of destructive mindset this book/religion/spring diet would cure if you gave it a chance' sort of preacher. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	vigilanterodent 2006-01-28 01:51 am UTC (link)
	This is off-topic, but the girl in your icon is Stephanie Brown, right? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ashenmote 2006-01-28 02:00 am UTC (link)
	Yes, it's Steph. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	brown_betty 2006-01-27 08:20 am UTC (link)
	omg was his hair soft and touchable? (Not that I'm implying you're a creepy hair-toucher!) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	notjo 2006-01-27 09:21 am UTC (link)
	Not the OP, but I've met him too, and he is so nice. Amazingly nice. And probably you could ask and touch his hair. I know he will hug people on request. I just turned into a gibbering idiot and said things like "boook.... goooood." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	atalantapendrag 2006-01-27 01:18 pm UTC (link)
	Oh yes... I was at one of his signings and he really was nice. If the venue hadn't stuck him behind a huge table I would have gotten a hug (he said so! and I hadn't asked... I did give him a bottle of BPAL's Shub-Niggurath, tho) but I did get a handshake. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	bubosquared 2006-01-27 01:30 pm UTC (link)
	This is why I never want to actually meet any writers I admire. Because I'd be planning all kinds of intelligent questions and discussions we'd be having, except then I'd actually meet them, and every single thought I ever had would flee my brain, and I'd end up annoucing, loudly, "I LIKE CHEESE." In all-caps, yes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

notjo
2006-01-27 01:43 pm UTC (link)

*laugh*

I did something similiar when I met Dave Duncan at a Con. I'd heard he was the guest of honour, but my copies of all his books are literally in tatters, I've read them so much and dragged them across half the world.

But, a friend of mine is a Con Organizer, and dragged me over to meet him. "Oh, she was too embrassed to come to your book signing, you see. Say something, notjo!"

Me: I--uh... I... I really like your books, and now I have to go away....

I guess my friend told him *everything* I was saying over breakfast about how I love his books and why and all this stuff. So, yeah, I kinda met Dave Duncan.

I hid the rest of that con. :)

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	bubosquared 2006-01-27 01:53 pm UTC (link)
	AHAHAHA! Yes! That would be exactly how I'd act, too. On the bright side, this means that when I become a Rich And Famous Writer^TM myself, I'll be able to actually hold conersations about cheese with my fans. Because screw all this writerly stuff, cheese is god, and thus makes for a much more interesting topicof conversation! (Reply to this)(Parent)

platedlizard, 2006-01-28 12:12 am UTC

notjo, 2006-01-28 12:15 am UTC

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	grand_sealink 2006-01-27 04:15 pm UTC (link)
	...I would need a towel. He's my writerly idol and hot too. If he hugged/touched me, I would just lay my head down and snuggle. (While hyperventilating.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

notjo
2006-01-27 04:20 pm UTC (link)

I almost asked him if he wanted to come live in my basement and eat my cookies. (In a non-sexual sense. *grin*) Instead, I said "Oh my god, it's you!" and that was apparently my question. (There was a Q&A, you see... he laughed. He's great!)

I have this thing for... fan-authors, you know? I mean, Neil Gaiman seems to *get fans*. He has his blog, which he updates regularily, he responds to emails and fan mail (well, someone does!), and all sorts of other things. He communicates with them. Diane Duane is, too, although seemingly to a lesser extent, but that may be because I read her blog and not her LJ. (Same content, but there may be more feedback going on there in the comments.)

A lot of authors aren't like that... they don't get the web, don't really get fandom. (Apparently Neil Gaiman's read RPS involving him... and only the once. He acknowledges fanfiction, but of course doesn't read it... and has said outright "No, I'm not writing it.") I think this may be why so many adult fans take issue with things JKR has said. They're expecting her to relate to them like other writers that are 'active' on the net do. Whereas JKR seems to relate to her 'target' audience (kids and young adults) much better than to adult fans.

And this went on way too long, and I think got way off topic. I should get either a t-shirt or an icon (or both!) that says "And next, my thoughts on yaoi." *grin*

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ravenscanary, 2006-01-27 05:19 pm UTC

also_not_a_pipe
2006-01-27 09:59 pm UTC (link)

He is, he so totally is. I had my hair up next to his a few years ago, and one of the main things I remember is being impressed with how fluffy and springy his was.

I'd asked him for a photo together, which he was kind enough to do. At the time the only camera I had was my big semi-pro Nikon SLR, which was finishing off a roll of 1600-speed film. I had it set to really low-light settings, because 1600 is what you use to take pictures in a cave without using the flash. So when I handed the camera off to my sister and she took the picture, the flash didn't go off.

And Neil seemed quite concerned about that. He asked me if we should try another, and I started stammering through the same basic explanation as above. I think I got through about "Oh, it'll be fine, bec-" before he said that he thought we should, just to be sure, and pulled me back next to him.

They both came out just fine, the first picture, and the one that I had my sister put all the switches to "auto" for. I've always liked his writing, but that's what made me fall so hopelessly in love with Neil himself.

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	jenny_atrox 2006-01-27 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	he's soft like a kitttttten. He read us an unpublished poem, and short story. he's sucha sweet, classy, down-to-earth guy. I want to lick him. >_> (Reply to this)(Parent)

	bubosquared 2006-01-27 10:04 am UTC (link)
	You know, the thing is, there's a decent enough point buried in there about generational poverty and how it propagates and all, but it got lost in the way she presents it. (Story of the internet, eh?) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mmanurere 2006-01-27 12:13 pm UTC (link)
	I think the valid points got buried under all the "if you're really good ~~at basketball~~with your money, you can claw your way up into the middle class (or higher)...and never mind that by definition only a few people can succeed at this." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

bubosquared
2006-01-27 12:19 pm UTC (link)

*nodnod* Which is one of the most annoying arguments ever, to me. Teeth on edge, people! And this chick (haven't read the book, so i don't know if the writer does the same) especially is basically taking generational poverty and holding it up as proof that the poor only have themselves to blame, which just. What? And I'll shut up, I swear, I just had to get that off my chest. I'll go back to my porn, now.

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	ayezur 2006-01-27 12:56 pm UTC (link)
	...taking generational poverty and holding it up as proof that the poor only have themselves to blame... Isn't that... social darwinism, sort of? Didn't we try that? And it didn't work? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	emiweebee 2006-01-27 04:17 pm UTC (link)
	My favourite was the very first response, with the girl who was irritated because she had money, first time in her family, and then her husband "frivolously" contracted cancer. She asked the OP if the more prudent thing would have been to let him die. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

bubosquared, 2006-01-27 04:25 pm UTC

ravenscanary, 2006-01-27 05:21 pm UTC

mireille, 2006-01-27 05:21 pm UTC

singe, 2006-01-27 06:41 pm UTC

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	mathilde 2006-01-27 07:33 pm UTC (link)
	I totally just spent the whole morning reading John Reed's smackdown. (Reply to this)

	here4tehwank 2006-01-27 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	Did anyone else think the mod just about joined in on the wankage his/her/itself? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2006-01-27 10:04 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. Rather. Also, hir shift key appears to be b0rked, which is neither hither nor thither but slightly irritating nonetheless. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	frequentmouse 2006-01-27 10:15 pm UTC (link)
	Like unto Opalcat, she is (and weird offensive icon on top of it). (Reply to this)(Parent)

mcity
2006-01-28 12:26 am UTC (link)

1. Wow, that's one passive-agressive edit.
2.

Get a grip on yourself before you assume I'm dissing poor Aunt Sally who is dying from leukemia and just read the book before you berate me on what you THINK the book MIGHT possibly say. I'm in much the same situation as many of you.

I count three.

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	morgyne 2006-01-28 01:45 am UTC (link)
	Wait, which one is three? The OP or the offended members of the community? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mcity 2006-01-28 04:00 am UTC (link)
	The opp, in those two sentences. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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