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Milkshake Butterfly ([info]m_butterfly) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-01-28 20:15:00


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"the kids these days aren't familiar with 'applied logic'"
Our month of Wank, LJ, Wank! continues with, believe it or not, wank on the usually low-key community </a></b></a>[info]suggestions. </a></b></a>[info]camomiletea starts it off with a perfectly reasonable and innocent idea--increasing the limit of people you can friend. Some people agree, but other people think the idea is just silly, because they can't see ever doing it, so why should anyone else be allowed to?

However, things start getting truly fun when </a></b></a>[info]kentox enters the mix. kentox, it seems, doesn't merely think this is a bad idea--he thinks it's no more or less than an assault on the entire LJ way of life. He has his own proposal instead: "Really, nobody should be friending more than 200-300 people in the first place. If you want to do more, build a community. That's what 750 people with access to your private entries is, in the first place. "

And the wank is off and running.

Highlights include some incredibly dubious logic, backpedaling, the idea that no one should ever want or need to friend more than 300 people, the fact that 'friends' on LiveJournal should mean the same as 'friends' everywhere, dammit, and, as the ice sculpture in the middle of this bewildering feast, this little gem:

"That's rather overgeneralizing, and quite incorrect. I think people should use LJ as it was intended to be used. For example, if the suggestion was for something more extreme -- an LJ child pornography ring, for example -- would you still feel comfortable with the contention, "Some people use LJ in other ways than you do and you need to be tolerant of that" ...?"

As a special bonus, join in the speculation: if all of that is standing free and proud, what must people have said in this thread to result in screened comments?


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[info]kadath
2006-01-29 03:46 am UTC (link)
[info]kentox is one of the opinionated assholes at the atheism community. (I say this with no rancor, since I'm one of said assholes.)

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-01-29 03:49 am UTC (link)
I had to stop arguing with him because I don't think I could have continued replying to his attempts to use logic without understanding it without getting mean.

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[info]ashenmote
2006-01-29 04:26 am UTC (link)
I really tried to figure it out, but all I got was that he is disgusted by the idea of people having nice things or something.

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[info]mael
2006-01-29 04:51 am UTC (link)
Otherwise, I don't think it should be a paid feature. LJ encourages people to become paid users too much already (imo).

O RLY?

No duh, silly person. What did you think LJ was? Something run by disciples of Mother Teresa?

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[info]beccastareyes
2006-01-29 05:07 am UTC (link)
Okay, so the Paid Users (or a subset of them) complain any time the Free Users get something new and they don't (or they get something less good, or something they won't use, or...) And now we have Free Users complaining about Paid Users getting too many features.

I'm going back to my book now.

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[info]april_hurst
2006-01-29 10:12 pm UTC (link)
I just like being a paid user because I can have more userpics, and for an extra $2 can have up to 100. (I have 70 at the moment with another 5 I've been too lazy to upload.) The rest... meh, don't care. And if free users were allowed to purchase the $2 pic extra without being paid users, I'd just let my account expire and then buy it like them.

Don't get what the big deal is...

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[info]sesana
2006-01-29 06:40 am UTC (link)
"That's rather overgeneralizing, and quite incorrect. I think people should use LJ as it was intended to be used. For example, if the suggestion was for something more extreme -- an LJ child pornography ring, for example -- would you still feel comfortable with the contention, "Some people use LJ in other ways than you do and you need to be tolerant of that" ...?"

There's a whole new variation on Godwin's, I think. It needs a witty name.

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[info]telesilla
2006-01-29 07:27 am UTC (link)
Gonzales's Law?

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[info]april_hurst
2006-01-29 10:13 pm UTC (link)
"use LJ in other ways than you do" =/= "use LJ in ways that are illegal"

BZZT!

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[info]m_butterfly
2006-01-29 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. "As an online discussion progresses, the chances of one party arguing that other parties should not have the right to a feature by bringing up child pornography approaches one"?

I agree that we should use 'Gonzales' in the title, but considering it's not far removed from Godwin's, perhaps "Gonzales's Variant".

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[info]belafarinrod
2006-01-29 10:33 am UTC (link)
God, what a dumbass.

I hope that suggestions passes. And since most people won't have that many friend ofs anyway, I don't think it matters to the servers. Which are crap anyway...

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[info]m_butterfly
2006-01-29 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Because of pedophiles, you can't have privacy in your online searches.

Because of pedophiles, you can't have reasonably accessible porn.

Because of pedophiles, you can't have hot underage HP sex.

And now, because of pedophiles, you can't have over 750 friends on LiveJournal.

See what happens when you think of the children?

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[info]suziecroft
2006-01-30 12:34 am UTC (link)
*would put a "think of them naked" comment here, but is afraid of the internet police*

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[info]luthe
2006-01-30 12:50 am UTC (link)
No, no, they think of *you* naked. :D

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[info]suziecroft
2006-01-30 12:58 am UTC (link)
And thus exposing children to nudity. YOU HAVE CORRUPTED THEM HOW COULD YOU.

See. Whatever you do, you lose.

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[info]txvoodoo
2006-01-29 07:58 pm UTC (link)
"I think people should use LJ as it was intended to be used."

Imagine if we felt that way about EVERYTHING?

"I think people should use computers as they were intended to be used."

i.e. big complex machines that made business easier.

Hell, I could go on forever. If we all only used everything as it was SUPPOSED to be used, we'd have no innovation.

Lisa, who just used a toothbrush to clean the glass in her fishtank.

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[info]nanthimus
2006-01-30 03:35 am UTC (link)
Lisa, who just used a toothbrush to clean the glass in her fishtank.

Now see, I knew I wasn't the only person to do that!

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[info]txvoodoo
2006-01-30 03:55 am UTC (link)
If the job requires a toothbrush-shaped tool, toothbrush it is! Seriously - it works GREAT on my acrylic tank, where I don't want to use sharp things.

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