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An Honest Sockpuppet ([info]footsie) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-03-30 08:40:00


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Current music:Jethro Tull: A Passion Play

I come bearing RACISM WANK! (No, not that. No incest involved this time, and even if there was, we've already given her far too much attention. But I digress.)

In [info]brutal_honesty, hypnotic naked person makes the following post:

"A minority, whether they be Asian, black, or hispanic, can not be racist. It is not possible for a minority to be racist. Many of those who are in the majority, such as whites, cannot seem to recognize the difference between racism and prejudice. It's all about power. The majority has it, the minority doesn't. Minorities can be bigoted and prejudiced all they want, but they don't have the power to act or assert their values onto the majority. They don't have the power to actively discriminate on the basis of race. Minorities have to go to the majority for everything they need. A minority can not be racist. Simple as that. And people who think otherwise are completely uninformed."

A blotchy dude with glasses provides counterexamples. A fat retarded A-Ha fan prefers the simple and direct approach: "BULLSHIT!" A buffed pretty-boy comments on the naked chick's education: "Let me guess, you just got out of your FIRST 'Political Activism 101' class, taught by some aging ex-hippie with a chip on her shoulder, and it got you ALL.FIRED.UP." (But what does he know, he once wore Abercrombie and Fitch!)

And there's more. Much more. And of course the naked chick argues with just about all of them, but sadly, she's not always naked -- she's usually wearing a T-shirt with a picture of a razor blade on it. Pity, that.




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[info]sashenka
2006-03-30 05:57 pm UTC (link)
racĀ·ism n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


I don't see the word 'white' in there.

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(no subject) - [info]footsie, 2006-03-31 03:03 am UTC

[info]seiberwing
2006-03-30 06:05 pm UTC (link)
What about somewhere where whites aren't in the minority? Does that mean there are no racist whites in parts of Africa?

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[info]avari
2006-03-30 06:18 pm UTC (link)
But I have a $100 question, which is causing mountains of wankiness in France: can a minority be racist against another minority?

(It's a NY Times article, so you need to log in. Getting an account is free)

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[info]eilan
2006-03-30 06:19 pm UTC (link)
Nope, only the majority can be racist in a general sense. I can't discriminate against whites in regards to something they need (food, water, job, home) because I don't have the power to do so.

Neither do I. I am white.

So I can't be racist?

Nice.

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2006-03-30 10:07 pm UTC

[info]chibikaijuu
2006-03-30 06:20 pm UTC (link)
ARGH.
I undersand that the sociological definition of racism requires that the prejudice be associated with a position of power or majority. But that's the definition as used in a specific discipline. The lay definition is just "prejudice based on race". It's similar to the way the scientific definition of "theory" differs from the common definition. They're both correct, but in different situations. *froths*

*cleans up*

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*sympathizes* - [info]mcity, 2006-03-31 01:52 am UTC

[info]ashenmote
2006-03-30 06:28 pm UTC (link)
Next up on brutal honesty: How to keep your razorblades sharp with cosmic rays.

At least she didn't contamine her message with own thought.

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[info]capsulekei
2006-03-30 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Everyone just needs to listen to Avenue Q's "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist" and be quiet.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-03-30 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Can't we stop wanking over whether we should use the sociological or common definition of "racism", and start ... wanking about more important stuff? Like fanfic rape?

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[info]frau_eva
2006-03-30 07:12 pm UTC (link)
I swear, I will find and KILL whoever thought it would be fine to just rewrite the definition of a controversial word like "racism." This sort of wank was amusing at first, but now it's just tired. I can argue this in my sleep by now.

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[info]greenglass
2006-03-30 07:31 pm UTC (link)
But that's like saying men can't be sexist because they are a minority of the population. (There are slightly more women than men in the US.)

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(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-03-30 07:53 pm UTC
Edited for spelling - [info]greenglass, 2006-03-30 08:15 pm UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]gal_montag, 2006-03-30 08:53 pm UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]visp, 2006-03-30 09:39 pm UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]freezer, 2006-03-31 01:23 am UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]gal_montag, 2006-03-31 03:25 am UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]avari, 2006-03-31 12:17 am UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]gal_montag, 2006-03-31 03:29 am UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]gal_montag, 2006-03-31 04:04 am UTC
Re: Edited for spelling - [info]mercutia, 2006-04-01 08:34 am UTC
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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-03-30 07:53 pm UTC (link)
So...basically, we should just view minorities as victims and not recognize their ability to express the same flaws as the Evil White ManTM? [info]guinastasia, is that you?

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(no subject) - pink_lightning, 2006-03-30 07:58 pm UTC

[info]wolfsamurai
2006-03-30 08:01 pm UTC (link)
I just went over for the butt icon. Mmmm....icon.

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pink_lightning
2006-03-30 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I'm almost sure I saw an editorial bashing 'Crash' with the same idea of "HOW DARE THEY SUGGEST WE CAN BE RACIST! MINORITIES CAN'T BE RACIST! FUCKING WHITE LIBERALS AND THEIR HIPPIE SHIT IDEAS!"

Bless. :)

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[info]kittikattie
2006-03-30 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Oh jesus, I'm not even going to get into this. Not because the OP is wrong, but because she's right.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-03-30 08:54 pm UTC (link)
I am going to choke a bitch, seriously.

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-03-30 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Oh, god, this argument again?

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[info]phosfate
2006-03-30 09:04 pm UTC (link)
So if I went to Zimbabwe or Ghana or Chad*, and bitch constantly about the local melanin-intensive populace and remark upon their affinity for watermelon and their inherent talent for dancing, it wouldn't be racist because...yeah.


*Or its little cousin, Brian.

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(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2006-03-30 09:39 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2006-03-30 09:41 pm UTC (link)
I don't really agree with hir but this bit in the first comment is the win:

You are some kind of magical retard of holier than thou-ness.

Ha! Someone needs to iconize that.

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[info]radiotrash
2006-03-30 09:44 pm UTC (link)
I'm just so tired of racism and it's wankiness in general. At this point it's like, believe what you want to believe (as I agree there are very valid reasons for believing that way) but don't get angry when others disagree.

Or: Bring back the fun wanks, plz. :(

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2006-03-30 10:03 pm UTC

[info]moonpigeon
2006-03-30 10:07 pm UTC (link)
....

NOT AGAIN.

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[info]azawakh
2006-03-30 10:30 pm UTC (link)
Y'know what. I'll just make an offering of cute kitties on ugly couches.

THE KITTIES LIVE IN HARMONY

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pink_lightning
2006-03-30 10:41 pm UTC (link)
I'm starting to think the reason for wank is cos no-one ever really learns about what racism is so it's up to everyone to find out for themselves. Hell, all I remember from school is, "all these people suffer, it's the fault of white Christian men, and anyone who is white or Christian or a man must be punished and continue to suffer".

It just seems like we need to talk about it, but no-one wants to cos it could raise the possibility of the definition changing or giving whitey the chance to talk when they should be flagellating for their sins. (Note: I'm just saying this from what I've experienced. I can barely understand what people are talking about most of the time, so that's what I've seen.)

I see assholes in every colour and nice people in every colour, and wank just makes me dizzy so I'm going to go read Tintin.

Or we can start talking. Does anyone want to have a discussion (wank and insult free, o'course), where we try to make sense of this?

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2006-03-30 10:46 pm UTC (link)
*shwunk*

I shall let Feyd speak for me. And hide in a box.

Like Solid Snake.

Only small. And with boobs.

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[info]moonjaguar
2006-03-30 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeeeessss, that old maggotty dead pony being beaten (beaden?) again.

Racism is racism, when someone shits on another person because they don't like their race. I don't give a fuck about some fancypants sociologist's hairsplitting redefinition which too many people take as meaning "only white people can be racist" and "white people by default are in a position of power no matter what the circumstances, especially white males".

But what the hell do I know, I'm just some forty-year-old white liberal who remembers times when people of varying melanin levels fought against people treating other people like shit based on race, creed, color, country of origin, ancestry, sexual orientation and how long or short someone decides to wear their hair.

*mops floor*

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(no subject) - [info]moonpigeon, 2006-03-31 12:53 am UTC

[info]linadarkstar
2006-03-30 11:34 pm UTC (link)
Anybody else get comprehension problems when two major players have the same icon?

Also Listen cuntmouth, I'm trying to stay civil. begs iconing.

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