Log In

Home
    - Create Journal
    - Update
    - Download

LiveJournal
    - News
    - Paid Accounts
    - Contributors

Customize
    - Customize Journal
    - Create Style
    - Edit Style

Find Users
    - Random!
    - By Region
    - By Interest
    - Search

Edit ...
    - Personal Info &
      Settings
    - Your Friends
    - Old Entries
    - Your Pictures
    - Your Password

Developer Area

Need Help?
    - Lost Password?
    - Freq. Asked
      Questions
    - Support Area



Jenova (jenova) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-04-06 18:11:00


Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
ah, religion.
So I was reading about the discovery of the Gospel of Judas today (Jesus/Judas is SO CANON now) and I decided to wander over to LJ's [info]catholicism community to see if anyone was pitching a hissy about it yet.

Instead I found this little piece of joy from [info]crosstherubicon:

...In all honesty, I regard the Islamic faith as a barbarism. Not its members as barbarians but its tenets as barbaric - a subtle difference.

I cannot abide by the notion that I share anything with this group other than a tenuous humanity and an abstract theology.

And furthermore, I believe it is a christian's duty to defend our faith with certainty and not political correctness. Charity but not 'tolerance' (another overused word in our modern culture).


What follows are seventy comments, at least half of which seem to be from the OP about how the person he is replying to is stupid and wrong and also stupid, even when the commenter is asking a question to clarify the OP's opinion.

I'd be much happier being Catholic if it weren't for the other Catholics. Gah. I think I'll go back to the J/J shipping now.



Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

(Post a new comment)


[info]somnambulicious
2006-04-06 10:46 pm UTC (link)
I got this far:

For as long as I can remember I have personally considered Islam to be as foreign a 'faith' to my catholicism/christianity as I can imagine.

...before I died laughing.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]female_fanboy, 2006-04-07 05:16 am UTC

[info]tofuknight
2006-04-06 10:48 pm UTC (link)
[Sorry... my html sucked. Reposted.]

Did anyone else see this person's userpic and think "phallic object"? It was the one shining light in the pit of OP's stupidity...

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 12:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2006-04-07 03:23 am UTC

[info]kylenne
2006-04-06 10:49 pm UTC (link)
We all want to have peace in this world but we must decide whether Peace at the cost of Truth is justifiable.

But what about The American Way?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-04-06 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-06 11:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-06 11:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-04-06 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-04-06 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 08:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 10:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 11:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 11:22 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 02:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 03:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mathilde, 2006-04-07 12:04 am UTC

[info]freezer
2006-04-06 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Is it bad that, while completely skipping over the username, I went straight to the quote and thought "Hellfire? Damn, she gets around!"

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2006-04-07 01:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daylightsparks, 2006-04-09 02:56 pm UTC

[info]ashenmote
2006-04-06 10:52 pm UTC (link)
...In all honesty, I regard the Islamic faith as a barbarism. Not its members as barbarians but its tenets as barbaric - a subtle difference

I've yet to find the Sura about the great storm god Crom and his mystical powers about wind, rain, thunder, and lightning. Apparently here's someone who did.

On the plus side, at least we don't have to use our overstrained tolerance on this one.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-06 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2006-04-06 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-06 11:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackeremeritus, 2006-04-07 12:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-07 12:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-04-06 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elektra3, 2006-04-06 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2006-04-07 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 12:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-07 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2006-04-07 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2006-04-07 02:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 02:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:25 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2006-04-07 02:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 02:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sithwitch13, 2006-04-07 03:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2006-04-07 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 04:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 11:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2008-11-13 08:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2008-11-14 01:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]taktuk, 2006-04-30 11:41 am UTC

[info]ladysorka
2006-04-06 10:56 pm UTC (link)
I've always been so weirdly amused that it tends to be Christianity, Islam, and Judiasm that hate each other, since they all, you know, believe in the same God and have a lot of the same prophets.

You never here anyone railing against that evil, evil Shinto.

(Also, whee, gospel of Judas!)

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2006-04-06 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ticca, 2006-04-07 01:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-04-07 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-04-07 09:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-04-07 04:10 pm UTC

[info]morgyne
2006-04-06 11:01 pm UTC (link)
The Koran, on the other hand, is littered with dozens and dozens of references to taking life.

Yeah, good thing New/Old Testament has none of that /eyeroll

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-06 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2006-04-06 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-04-06 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2006-04-06 11:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 10:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-04-07 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-04-06 11:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]somnambulicious, 2006-04-07 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-04-07 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-07 12:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 01:26 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 10:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-04-07 10:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-08 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]symbeline, 2006-04-06 11:58 pm UTC

sharonapple
2006-04-06 11:09 pm UTC (link)
Reading [info]crosstherubicon's post and his comments made me throw up a little inside.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:15 pm UTC

[info]seiberwing
2006-04-06 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Truth cannot be diluted.

And yes I have read both the Koran and the Bible....not that thats relevant.


No. No, you fail.

(Reply to this)


[info]rotten_fish
2006-04-06 11:18 pm UTC (link)
No. No. Have you read the Bible, dude? That part about supporting slavery? Especially with women? Do you think they were joking about that?

Charity but not 'tolerance' (another overused word in our modern culture).

You are an idiot.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:23 pm UTC
Re: And more: - jenova, 2006-04-06 11:26 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:33 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-06 11:33 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:38 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]ayezur, 2006-04-06 11:56 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 12:02 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]ayezur, 2006-04-07 12:05 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 12:07 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-04-07 01:31 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 03:04 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]visp, 2006-04-07 05:55 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 10:31 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]esclaramonde, 2006-04-07 03:31 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]telesilla, 2006-04-07 11:39 am UTC
Re: And more: - [info]chaimonkey, 2006-04-06 11:53 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-06 11:55 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]chaimonkey, 2006-04-06 11:56 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 02:26 pm UTC
Re: And more: - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 07:05 pm UTC
Wank? What wank?
[info]ruby_tuesday
2006-04-06 11:20 pm UTC (link)
Jesus/Judas might actually convert me back to Catholicism one of these days.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: Wank? What wank? - [info]female_fanboy, 2006-04-07 05:23 am UTC
Re: Wank? What wank? - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 09:05 am UTC
Re: Wank? What wank? - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 10:22 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2006-04-06 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Why doesn't religion count as a fandom? It certainly acts like one.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2006-04-07 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 07:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pariforma, 2006-04-09 01:09 am UTC

[info]elektra3
2006-04-06 11:38 pm UTC (link)
*pricks up ears* Gospel of Judas? Where?

Religious geekery aside, WTF is [info]crosstherubicon's problem? Because dude, if we're talking about Barbarism Throught the Ages, then Muslim nations were historically more tolerant of "heathens" than Christian nations were.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-04-06 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-06 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-04-07 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-04-07 12:05 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-04-07 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 12:15 am UTC

[info]gal_montag
2006-04-06 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Um. Is this the same Catholicism that allows for child molesting priests to be shuffled from parish to parish rather than cutting down on the red tape needed for a defrocking? The same one that refuses to ordain women? The one who spreads false information about condoms in Africa because it would be better for everyone there to die of AIDS than to commit the sin of using contreception? I don't wanna dog Catholics but wasn't there something in the Bible about a log and a speck? Maybe [info]crosstherubicon should stuff that in hie pipe and smoke it.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-04-07 12:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-04-07 12:11 am UTC
I was inspired... - [info]tofuknight, 2006-04-07 12:47 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 12:57 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-07 01:00 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:38 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]lessis, 2006-04-07 05:32 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]zaliesiren, 2006-04-07 11:52 pm UTC
Re: I was inspired... - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-04-08 12:33 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]lessis, 2006-04-08 02:53 am UTC
Re: I was inspired... - [info]suziecroft, 2006-04-07 05:47 pm UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2006-04-06 11:50 pm UTC (link)
The OP looks like a Kewpie. This further convinces me of his inherent evil.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2006-04-07 12:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2006-04-07 12:16 am UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2006-04-07 01:32 am UTC (link)
Dude, have you seen Jesus Christ Superstar? Jesus/Judas is the OTP!

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 01:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-04-07 01:40 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-04-07 01:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-07 03:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-04-07 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sithwitch13, 2006-04-07 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 05:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 11:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]naienko, 2006-04-07 02:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-04-07 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 11:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-04-07 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2006-04-07 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hellespont, 2006-04-07 03:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2006-04-07 03:27 pm UTC

[info]darthmaligna
2006-04-07 01:38 am UTC (link)
Some days I feel like the only historian in the room, constantly standing over in the corner shouting "Who saved a thousand years of western civilization from the Christians? THE MUSLIMS, SHITHEADS." I wish I could believe in Jehovallah, because then I could convert to Islam. That religion's done more for me as a classicist than all the sects of Christianity and Judaism combined.

As it stands, though, I'm going to remain firmly over here in the atheist camp rolling my eyes and possibly slipping notes to the Muslims that when push eventually comes to shove, they should join up with the oft-neglected eastern religions. I mean, sure Islamic extremists will strap themselves up in dynamite and take out a city bus, but those Asian monks will meditate while on fire. You just can't compete with that shit.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2006-04-07 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]utahraptor, 2006-04-07 04:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]runrunmarch, 2006-04-07 06:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 02:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 08:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 10:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 03:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 04:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 07:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-08 11:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-08 12:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]annafora, 2006-04-08 11:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-08 11:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annafora, 2006-04-08 03:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 05:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]suziecroft, 2006-04-07 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 07:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2006-04-07 03:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2006-04-07 03:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 05:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dana, 2006-04-07 10:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tabula_x_rasa, 2006-04-08 02:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-04-08 04:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tabula_x_rasa, 2006-04-08 07:16 am UTC

[info]runrunmarch
2006-04-07 01:48 am UTC (link)
I don't know which part of me is more irked in my head, the pissed-off former western religions major, or the pissed off Sufi sitting beside them :D

(Reply to this)(Thread)

Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]runrunmarch, 2006-04-07 02:00 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 03:00 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]runrunmarch, 2006-04-07 06:10 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 10:29 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]panthea, 2006-04-07 06:38 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 06:59 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]runrunmarch, 2006-04-07 07:28 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]seiberwing, 2006-04-07 08:02 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 11:12 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]telesilla, 2006-04-07 11:47 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]bubosquared, 2006-04-07 12:01 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]exdee, 2006-04-07 03:53 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]symbeline, 2006-04-07 06:03 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sufi FTW! - [info]hallidae, 2006-04-07 06:31 pm UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2006-04-07 02:02 am UTC (link)
The irony of the Christian/Jewish dislike toward Islam always amuses me. You would think that those two religions, being linked both by a uniform God and prophet structure, as well as having passed through their own inherently violent phases of development, would sympathize with the people trapped beneath the stereotype generated by terrorism and radical theology.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2006-04-07 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semiotics, 2006-04-07 02:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2006-04-07 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-04-07 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2006-04-07 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2006-04-07 05:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 05:33 pm UTC

[info]panthea
2006-04-07 04:18 am UTC (link)
So which tenet's the barbaric one? The one about praying five times a day, the one about giving to charity, the one about fasting during Ramadan, the one about visiting Mecca, or the one where there-is-no-god-but-one-god-and-Mohammed-is-the-prophet-of-God?

Having fasted myself, during midterms period no less... I'd say that one's barbaric as all hell.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-07 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]runrunmarch, 2006-04-07 06:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tabula_x_rasa, 2006-04-08 02:40 am UTC

[info]frequentmouse
2006-04-07 05:09 am UTC (link)
The whole thread keeps reminding me of Julia Sweeney's Letting Go of God: Catholics are not well acquainted with the Bible. Little Protestant kids get the full-strength dose from an early age, and thereby become immune to the insanity (or swallowed by it, whatever).

(Protestant, BTW, although once Lents over I go back to being a Second Reformed Totemic Animist)

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2006-04-07 03:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-04-07 04:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-04-08 12:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2006-04-08 12:07 am UTC

[info]aegflota
2006-04-07 08:54 am UTC (link)
. In this version, Jesus asked Judas, as a close friend, to sell him out to the authorities, telling Judas he will "exceed" the other disciples by doing so.

There are no words. OH JUDAS. <3 <3 <3 I KNEW YOU WERE GREAT FROM THE START.

Jesus/Judas forever. I don't care if I'm an atheist when it comes to Judas. <3

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]rolling_my_eyes, 2006-04-07 02:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aegflota, 2006-04-07 02:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-04-07 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-04-07 10:37 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-04-07 09:44 am UTC (link)
Judaism is our 'elder brother in faith' as the Church puts it.

That's some poor-ass geneology right there.

Ahhh, Abrahamic faith wank. So many Useless wanky Capitalisations of Piety.

(Reply to this)


[info]coffee_mug
2006-04-07 09:54 am UTC (link)
I think the saying applies to Jesus best: "Love the guy, hate his fans."

(Reply to this)


[info]dana
2006-04-07 10:14 am UTC (link)
Awww...fundamentalist monotheists are so cute and entertaining when they insult each other.

Well, up until they start killing each other up, cause that's just annoying. And such a pain to clean up the mess.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]utahraptor, 2006-04-07 01:42 pm UTC


Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

 
   
Privacy Policy - COPPA
Legal Disclaimer - Site Map