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XD ([info]exdee) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-04-25 17:44:00


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Ah, fuck. Someone got childfree wank all over my customer suckery again :P

akarui_kibuno comes to customers_suck to post her pet peeves about her fellow Eurodisney customers.

harmonyfb suggests she take it to childfree, since akarui_kibuno obviously hates children.

sevenday fans the flames:

First point: Sure it's aimed primarily at children, but the adults are the ones with the money. Disney is really trying to get the PARENTS to bring their children.

If she, an adult, pays to get into the park, and decides she wants a picture with Mickey or whomever... It's no different than if a toddler wants to see the character costumes. A costume is a costume. Just because a kid wants to get a picture/talk to/hug a character does not automatically bump them above the adult who also wants to. I personally think lines are a good idea, for the reason the OP stated.

Point two: Why did you reccomend that the OP "take this to childfree" -- just because they made a comment about the oddity of bringing very young children to Disneyland? I'm sorry, but that's not what 'childfree' is about, really. Sure, Disney doesn't mind if you bring your very small child to the park. More money for them, in theory. As long as there are bodies in the park, they get paid. That doesn't mean it's 100% appropriate to bring them...

To expand on that last point: when children are under age three and you take them to the park, it's for YOU and not for the kid. MOST kids under age 3 won't remember it. (One poster talks about her three year old further down - there are exceptions to every rule). I went to Disneyland with my family when I was about 2. I don't remember a damned thing. All I have of it is a poster thing Dad bought and the ticket with the dates stamped on it. My older siblings remember, but of course they were older than me.

If a parent shows up with a 2 year old or whatever, and they also have older children, then it's perfectly fine (in my opinion) to have the tot along. You can't very well bring child A and not child B if both parents went on the trip. However, if child A, the tot in question, is the ONLY kid you have, it just... kind of defeats the point of going to Disneyland. Sure you can get pictures of cute wittle Ashleigh or whomever, but you're the only one who's likely to remember it. And Ashleigh is not going to be very happy about not being able to remember it unless you go again at a later date. (I was incredibly pissed at my parents for not waiting until I was old enough to remember when I found out that we had gone to Disneyland. Oh well.) Bringing a one year old or a two year old to Disneyland when you have no other kids is just a bit foolish -- you can't go on rides together because someone has to watch the baby, so on.


There's "no, 2 year olds WILL remember Disneyland years later"; "ALL childfreers hate children"; someone who is not the OP saying "I shall again reiterate my position by saying that if you cant post any nice comments dont post any at all"...and that's all, really, and a good time was had by all, unless you hate children. You don't hate children, do you?


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[info]tofuknight
2006-04-25 10:50 pm UTC (link)
*raises hand* I hate children just to be contrary.

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[info]antigone
2006-04-25 11:23 pm UTC (link)
but what are your thoughts on yaoi?


*ha ha remembered the "are" this time. I'm so cool.

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(Anonymous)
2006-04-25 11:01 pm UTC (link)
What I hate is anyone who cares about getting their picture taken with those weird huge costumed characters. Seriously, who over the age of eight thinks that's cool?

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[info]darkeyes
2006-04-25 11:09 pm UTC (link)
Parents don't respect anyone. They think THEIR child is so special that THEIR child must go first, even if there are adults waiting...

And they suck! Because I'm the SPECIAL one! ME! ME! MEEEEE!!!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-04-26 10:51 am UTC
Bugger. - (Anonymous), 2006-04-26 10:53 am UTC
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[info]sailorjpg
2006-04-25 11:10 pm UTC (link)
I've never snapped at anyone before, but when you have people pushing their kids who aren't Spanish, French or English/American (I only speak those languages) it gets difficult.

So...is she saying that it's acceptable for people to cut in line only if they speak on of the languages she does?
Or is she saying that if they don't speak her languages it's even harder to (not?) snap at them? But- but...she's so saintly because she never snaps! She even said so!

Or is she saying it's harder to snap because they don't speak her languages? It wouldn't matter, since..yaknow..they wouldn't understand anyway, persumably. But then again, just because someone doesn't look "Spanish, French or English/American", doesn't mean they don't know some other fuckin' languages.

GAH! Which does this deserve more: an ironic "Oh SNAP!" or the "That's racist" macro?

What the fuck?

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[info]puipui
2006-04-25 11:15 pm UTC (link)
You know what I hate? I hate it when I go to the playground at the park and there's, like, all these kids there. I mean, geez, what little kid is going to remember Daddy taking them to the park when they were, like, two or something? My mom's got all these pictures of me hunting Easter eggs and sitting on Santa's lap and crap from when I was three or whatever, and I can't remember any of it! And why would she take pictures of crap from my childhood that I'm never going to remember, anyway?

So, yeah, I just pushed that little toddler bitch right off the swings, 'cause sure, my legs are too long for it and it's really not made for adults but IT WAS MY FUCKING SWING, DAMMIT! I GOT THERE FIRST!

And don't even get me started on the McDonald's Playland. Those stupid toddler punks won't even get out of the twisty slide when you kick them!

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enogitna
[info]antigone
2006-04-25 11:21 pm UTC (link)
I'm quoted in a wank. I guess I was a little wanky. Oh well it happens to the best of us.

Later on in the thread I got distracted.

Oooh something shiny. *wanders off*

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Re: enogitna - [info]chaimonkey, 2006-04-25 11:48 pm UTC

[info]ladysorka
2006-04-25 11:25 pm UTC (link)
...I was 18 months old the first time my parents took me to Disney World, and at the time was the only child. I don't remember anything about it all.

However, my parents have freely admitted that I was just an excuse - now they had a reason to go to Disney World, yay! Apparently the made extensive use of Disney's babysitting services.

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[info]chaimonkey
2006-04-25 11:49 pm UTC (link)
I remember not wanting to go one the "It's a Small World" ride because it was incredibly disturbing and pictching a bit of a fit, to which the guy staffing it told me they took bad children and nailed their feet to the stage to sing along with the mechainical dolls forEVER.

I'm not a fan of Disneyworld.

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[info]chaimonkey
2006-04-25 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Also, laughing at the woman complaining about line-jumpers in France. It's France. Cutting lines is a national pastime!

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[info]waterfront
2006-04-26 01:38 am UTC (link)
I love the idea that just 'cause a kid won't remember visiting Disneyland, a child shouldn't go. 'Cause, you know. It's not like the whole point is having fun then and there. Of course not. It's about the memories.

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[info]mael
2006-04-26 01:40 am UTC (link)
Apparently, kids aren't allowed to have any kind of fun until they are old enough to remember said fun twenty years down the line.

Lock 'em all up in bare rooms! TOYS ARE A WASTE. Wait until they're old enough to tell you they want the fuck out.

Then you can take them to Disneyland.

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(no subject) - [info]circumstance, 2006-04-26 03:56 am UTC

[info]gal_montag
2006-04-26 01:42 am UTC (link)
Sure it's aimed primarily at children, but the adults are the ones with the money. Disney is really trying to get the PARENTS to bring their children

Which does not change the fact that it's an attraction aimed at children, dillhole.

And like, am I the only one who flees from the theme park characters? The kids can have them. *shudder*

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[info]nebbieq
2006-04-26 02:27 am UTC (link)
Holy crap, when did theme park mascots start getting so hard to get to? I'm too young to start doing "back in my days" rants! D:

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(no subject) - [info]dreamoflife02, 2006-04-26 03:25 am UTC

[info]circumstance
2006-04-26 03:54 am UTC (link)
My parents took me to Disneyland when I was 2, and I remember it. BECAUSE IT WAS SO FUCKING TRAUMATIC! Oh my god, there were these grotesque singing, dancing puppets that belted "It's a Small World After All" over and over and over again like some kind of tourist attraction in hell! My parents kept taking me on that ride because they apparently mistook my abject horror for childish glee. That godawful song was stuck in my head till I turned seven.

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-04-28 08:35 pm UTC

[info]batshitinsane
2006-04-26 04:44 am UTC (link)
Soooo, the OP can't just, you know, give way to kids? It's not like the characters would run away once they're done taking photos with kids.

Also, it makes me happy to see children happy when they're taking photos with the characters they like

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2006-04-26 05:34 am UTC (link)
Let me clarify something. The majority of childree people I know don't despise children of all sorts. They despise loud, annoying children that belong to loud, annoying parents. There's a distinction...And there is nothing necessarily wrong with not liking children. As long as you're not going out with a noose and strangling every child that comes within ten feet of you, and you're not spitting on every woman that is pregnant or has a kid, you're not really bothering anyone.

I would so have [info]sevenday's internet babies if either of us were into that sort of thing.

Though I have to say that in a stewpit like c_s, I'm surprised nobody's busted out the "Oh noes Disney are teh ebil h0rs! Mickey Mouse came to my house and ate my kitten! One!" wank yet.

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-04-26 04:58 pm UTC
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[info]elemcee
2006-04-26 11:00 am UTC (link)
MY.TURN.AND.THAT'S.IT.

MY TURN! MINE! *stamps foot*

Yeah, that's mature.

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(Anonymous)
2006-04-26 11:14 am UTC (link)
Aww i've never been to Disney anything :(

*feels left out*

-zelley

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[info]avari
2006-04-26 11:39 am UTC (link)
*lives in Paris and has never set a foot in Eurodisney*

What's really crazy is the people who bring young children (which is okay) but still want to enjoy the activities for which the children are too small.
Their brilliant solution? Park the kids in a shop, and come get them back in 30 minutes, hoping they've not been kidnapped or something. O_o

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(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-04-26 01:25 pm UTC

[info]queencallipygos
2006-04-26 01:46 pm UTC (link)
(raises hand)

Can we get a check on whether this was the same person who pitched a hissy fit over a kid getting to open the sacred HARRY POTTER boxes at the end of a costume contest or something?

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-04-28 08:27 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-04-26 05:47 pm UTC (link)
They despise loud, annoying children that belong to loud, annoying parents.

Aren't all children loud and annoying at some point? I've seen normally well-behaved kids have serious meltdowns if they're tired or not feeling well or simply in a bratty mood. I'd ask the same question of adults, too. I guess we shouldn't let them go out in public. EVER.

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(no subject) - [info]happycake, 2006-04-26 08:59 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-04-26 07:31 pm UTC (link)
I've never been to a Disney park, but I went to Sesame Place when I was about 5 with my Mom, my little sister (who was 2 or 3 at the time) and my Grandma. Sesame Place is the Sesame Street theme park in . . . I think it's in Pennsylvania. Theres a funny story that my Mom still tells. Keep in mind that my Mom (well my whole family really) has an evil sense of humor.0

Backstory: my grandma had polio in the 40s so she was in a wheelchair. It was the electric kind, but she also had a non-electric wheelchair for emergencies and stuff, and my Mom brought it along to use sort of as a stroller, because kids are whiny when they get tired. So I was taking a break after going around Twiddlebug Land (the coolest part of the park after the water slides) and I'm riding in the wheelchair, and then I see the coolest Sesame Street character ever - The Count.

So I hop out of the wheelchair and dash to the Count and give him a hug, and everyone is staring at this little girl in a wheelchair who can suddenly walk, and goes "My baby! My baby! The Count healed my baby! My little girl can walk!" and everyone watching thinks its a miracle or something. But I didn't care, because I got to see the Count.

-Buttercup87

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[info]didodiva
2006-04-27 12:30 pm UTC (link)
(I was incredibly pissed at my parents for not waiting until I was old enough to remember when I found out that we had gone to Disneyland. Oh well.)

You mean I had fun and I don't even remember it!? HOW DARE YOU! Do you know how devastating it is to have chunks of special memories missing from your brain? It's horrific! If you were any type of parent you would have kept me locked up in my room until pre-school.
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I am one of these poor unfortunate souls (in pain, in need) who endured this hell. No, I can't remember anything from my trip either (or my trip to the World's Fair around the same time). Thankfully that's what pictures, souvenirs, and nostalgic family members are for. You want to know what happened? Ask your parents! Maybe if you're lucky they'll take you back when you're older. (They took me again at eight. I remember everything)

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(no subject) - [info]antigone, 2006-04-27 05:08 pm UTC

[info]oxydosic
2006-04-28 08:14 pm UTC (link)
The whole getting pissed about a kid going ahead of her to get a picture with the character reminds me of the person in [info]cf_hardcore who was screaming rage because a little kid got to get the first Harry Potter book when she had the best costume, damn it!

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