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THE POISSON MUST BE FRESH! ([info]rotten_fish) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-04-28 20:21:00


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Current mood: Candy-Coated

"Am I a strange attractor for wank? Don't answer that."
Thanks, helpful mousie on [info]wank_report!

Over on [info]fatshionista, a post was made along the lines of, "Please don't wear clothes not in your size." Or something. No one is really sure. It ended being deleted, by whom, no one knows. ataniell93 IS sure and posts a new post to complain, clarify, and preach..


I see the post about people wearing clothes that are too tight has been deleted.

That is a shame. Because I'm sorry, this is a reality. It is not fat-phobic to point out that just because you can get a piece of cloth around your body, doesn't mean you should. Hear me out before you start flaming and call out the political police....

The OP was not saying fat people should never wear tight clothing. Fat people often look excellent in tight clothing that fits them. The OP was complaining about people who are a size 24, but buy a 13 because they want to wear something the store doesn't have in a 24 (which is understandable, but you can find most styles online nowadays) or because, as my roommate did, they want to SAY they wear a 13. If anything, this is internalised fat-phobia...

I'm going to be more than a little annoyed if this becomes a place where you can't say that some people make bad wardrobe choices, because we all know that's true.


Naturally, there is some confusion, outrage, and generally teal dear as everyone wonders exactly what the OP's deleted post was actually about. Some people call for protests. ataniell93, in true Nice Girl form, tells people they are interrogating the comm from the wrong perspective. Some people have strange arguments.

After [info]fancymcsnazsnaz (why must it be so long?) questions Ataniell's user info, she makes a much wankier ETA:

ETA to those who keep quoting the userinfo: YES, I am in fact aware that this community has an activist base and is intended to have some political discussion, but to my way of thinking, that does not necessarily have to involve political analyses of of every cotton-pickin' utterance that is made in it, to the exclusion of any fashion-related point. The point I am trying to make is not that understand this community to be EXCLUSIVELY fashion-oriented, but rather that it is, in fact, ALSO meant to include fashion-related content, including discussions of what does and doesn't necessarily work for some body types, and what clothing means, what messages it sends, rather than being a self-congratulatory "we are all beautiful snowflakes no matter how ridiculous we in fact may look in X" type community.

I also would like to point out that if you're going to talk politics, you'd better be prepared to accept that not everyone shares the same politics. There are actually Republicans in this community, believe it or not. At least two. Not everyone here is as far to the left as some of you seem to be.

If this community's definition of politics is "left wing only" the maintainers need to put that in the userinfo.


People take offense.

Every time Ataniell is accused of racism, JKR kills a death eater. Please. Think of the Death Eaters. They think of you. Purged from the earth, you filthy muggle.

Bonus! Somebody thought that icon was offensive and sent an e-mail! Ataniell tells all on her LJ! Also, tip for those with eyes that bleed at Ataniell's Pepto pink: ?style=mine is your friend! ETA: Friendslocked now. Oh, poop.

Moral of the story: PC? Ataniell don't need your stinking PC!

ETA: Also? Ataniell pisses off a mod. I now think the moral of the story is that Ataniell has no sensitivity whatsoever.




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[info]hallidae
2006-04-29 01:27 am UTC (link)
Fucking hell, isn't she rubbed raw yet? There's only so much wanking honor-defending a body can take before it gives out.

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[info]nebbieq
2006-04-29 01:31 am UTC (link)
I love it when fandom and non-fandom stuff collides.

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[info]froda_baggins
2006-04-29 01:33 am UTC (link)
It's like a train wreck...

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 01:36 am UTC
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[info]singe
2006-04-29 01:41 am UTC (link)
People can wear what they want! Shaddup!

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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2006-04-29 01:50 am UTC
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[info]frequentmouse
2006-04-29 01:44 am UTC (link)
I cannot actually find a single poster in that wank who I would let share my table at Starbucks, so to speak.

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(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2006-04-29 02:19 am UTC
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[info]yattara
2006-04-29 01:47 am UTC (link)
What? Shooting up abortion clinics is racist? Since fucking when? And what is she trying to prove with that icon? Saying that we can't say DEs are racist, because there's racists in this society as well?

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 01:51 am UTC
To paraphrase Lethal Wepaon - [info]yattara, 2006-04-29 01:57 am UTC
Re: To paraphrase Lethal Wepaon - [info]yattara, 2006-04-29 01:57 am UTC
Re: To paraphrase Lethal Wepaon - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 01:58 am UTC
Re: To paraphrase Lethal Wepaon - [info]drakyndra, 2006-04-29 07:35 am UTC
Re: To paraphrase Lethal Wepaon - [info]yattara, 2006-04-29 03:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2006-04-29 01:52 am UTC
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[info]gun
2006-04-29 01:48 am UTC (link)
Why can't people wear whatever the fuck they want to wear? God. I used to be nitpicky like that about other people's clothes until I realised it was biting into my porn time. If size 20 people want to wear spangly pink lycra then good for them, at least they're doing something that makes them feel happy.

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[info]telesilla
2006-04-29 01:54 am UTC (link)
Am I a strange attractor for wank? Don't answer that.

Honey, if the shoe fits....

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(no subject) - [info]emiweebee, 2006-04-29 02:02 am UTC

[info]ashenmote
2006-04-29 02:01 am UTC (link)
Why didn't she mention JK Rowling yet? *puzzled*

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(no subject) - [info]expeliarbum, 2006-04-29 02:36 am UTC
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[info]emiweebee
2006-04-29 02:06 am UTC (link)
Okay, I really don't want to be overly mean or bring up fat wank or anything, but...does anyone believe ataniell has only an "hourglass figure"?

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(no subject) - [info]hobbitsexual, 2006-04-29 02:55 am UTC
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flightstothesea
2006-04-29 02:11 am UTC (link)
In other news, I now understand [info]tealdeer's username.

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2006-04-29 02:12 am UTC

[info]froda_baggins
2006-04-29 02:17 am UTC (link)
Gem from [info]soldurios:

Even when filling out a meme, you're amazingly verbose

I don't think that means what you think it means...

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(no subject) - [info]keri, 2006-04-29 02:48 am UTC
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[info]luckdragonfujur
2006-04-29 02:31 am UTC (link)
If she keeps it up like that, we'll have to create a [info]ataniellwank community.

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[info]expeliarbum
2006-04-29 02:32 am UTC (link)
Ok, ok, so now not only I have to see Ataniell 'TMI' 93 ranting about my fandon and threatening to leave every five minutes (look at me! I' leaving! Really, I am. Ok, I'm going now...), but she also tells me what to fucking wear? Oh dear, that's a motivation to start losing weight, if I ever saw one...

For the love of God, if you don't like what other people wear and are so insulted with the fat, just look the other way

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-04-29 02:39 am UTC (link)
Sometimes I wish I was fat just so I could jiggle offensively at these people while wearing nothing but fishnet and spandex. Jesus Christ, WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL?

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(no subject) - [info]marylake, 2006-04-29 03:38 am UTC
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[info]esclaramonde
2006-04-29 02:53 am UTC (link)
I like the way people respond to what she actually says when she's not in Potter comms or her friend's LJs. It's kind of really nice.

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 03:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2006-04-29 03:06 am UTC

[info]prettyveela
2006-04-29 02:53 am UTC (link)
Bonus! Somebody thought that icon was offensive and sent an e-mail!


*strokes chin*

Hmmm it's mentioned on Fandom Wank and now all of a sudden she got an "offensive" e-mail, chuh.

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[info]hobbitsexual
2006-04-29 02:54 am UTC (link)
I don't really see what was so wrong with ataniell's original post.

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 02:59 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-04-29 03:14 am UTC

[info]ladysorka
2006-04-29 03:08 am UTC (link)
As a fat person, I don't wear tight clothing because I don't think it looks good on me. What other people do is their own business.

...except, of course, when all I can find in plus size stores are shirts that hug my fat rolls, but that's a separate issue entirely.

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[info]rotten_fish
2006-04-29 03:22 am UTC (link)
*trying so hard to resist making a crack about having Taco Bell one night and Wendy's the next*

WE'RE NOT RAAAACIST!!!!

Besides, Tim Horton's and Wendy's would have been a funnier joke. Or Denny's, for goodness sake.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-29 04:04 am UTC
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[info]narcissam
2006-04-29 03:33 am UTC (link)
You know, it is a comm for discussing fashion, so giving opinions on fashion (if polite) would be ok. And since we can't see the original post, and whether it was offensive, I can't really judge how this whole thing went down.

But it's certainly evolved in a bloody mess with all the usual recriminations.

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(no subject) - [info]willywanka, 2006-04-30 01:47 pm UTC

[info]sorchar
2006-04-29 04:05 am UTC (link)
When I worked in retail - at Torrid, in fact - I *did* get frustrated with the girls who insisted on squeezing into the smallest size possible. From a sales standpoint, it would fuck up the clothes so that we couldn't sell them. From the standpoint of someone who was there to help these girls look their best, it was frustrating because they didn't look good and I knew that if they could just get past worrying about that stupid number, they could look fantastic.

Now that I'm not in retail anymore? I don't really give a shit what other people wear, unless it's especially amusing.

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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2006-04-29 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-29 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-04-29 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-04-29 04:27 am UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2006-04-29 04:09 am UTC (link)
I'm so glad my fashion cares extend only to, "Does this shirt match this skirt?"

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(no subject) - [info]gun, 2006-04-29 04:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-04-29 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-04-29 05:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-04-29 05:56 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kittikattie, 2006-04-29 08:57 pm UTC

[info]azazello
2006-04-29 07:10 am UTC (link)
Jeebus, does she do anything but wank herself into a frenzy somewhere on the interwebs?

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-04-29 09:03 am UTC

[info]sheep
2006-04-29 08:07 am UTC (link)
that you can enjoy your Anime/manga/fandom unstressed (I think that's what we all want). I'm just discussing how to negotiate what is a PROBLEM FOR ME and what I know some other feminists struggle with.

Can't people just read stuff and enjoy it with out trying to make political issues out of it.

"OMG!!! It's racistbigoted/fatphobic/mysogynistic"... have I missed any?

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(no subject) - [info]massromantic, 2006-04-29 05:53 pm UTC


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