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miss_padfoot ([info]miss_padfoot) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-05-04 12:16:00


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Dark Christian wank
Dark_Christian is generally an interesting, not-too-wanky community dedicated to discussing Dominionist Christianity. It's comprised of lots of agnostics and atheists and some liberal Christians, with a few Buddhists and Jews and probably some Pagans floating around. Normally, people are able to keep these differences from exploding into spooge.

Unfortunately, it doesn't always work - even among the comm's many atheists. [info]horvendile, an atheist, posts about militant atheists and why they suck, and [info]memory_guilded responds fairly reasonably:

"I've found that many of them can be just as militant about their views as religious fundamentalists. Many of them attempt to convert the masses to their anti-theism, instead of showing tolerance and respect toward those who have different views than them. How can you expect the religious to accept your belief (or lack thereof) if you can't show them the same courtesy?"

[info]pope_guilty: "Generally, there's nobody clamouring to murder a lot of people and enslave women and children on account of the lack of a supernatural creator entity wanting them to."

[info]memory_guilded: "You want to target your intolerance toward bloodthirsty religious crazies, be my guest. But last I checked, the vast majority of religious people do not advocate murder and enslavement- which is why I have a problem with militant atheists (and people such as yourself) who make these kinds of broad and incorrect generalizations. Reread my comment, and see how it applies to you."

[info]pope_guilty thinks Memory is missing the point (which she kind of is), but as they argue, [info]pope_guilty quickly becomes the wankier of the two, claiming that reincarnation is violence and militant atheism is justified because there are crazy psychotic religious people.

Small bonus wank: [info]metaphorge says that people rape and kill because they don't believe in God's morality. At least, I think that's what s/h/it's saying? It's a very convoluted sentence.


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redwarrior
2006-05-04 07:01 pm UTC (link)
horvendile wins the Intraweb.

S/He stated the reason I'm agnostic instead of atheist. I just want everyone to get along...

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[info]miss_padfoot
2006-05-04 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh, word. [info]horvendile was really cool about the whole thing. *gives him the medal of Congratulations, You Make Sense*

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[info]utahraptor
2006-05-05 12:22 am UTC (link)
I third that notion.

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[info]renata_hpjc
2006-05-05 03:15 pm UTC (link)
The thing I love about militant atheists is that they frequently use the exact same arguments against liberal theists that the fundies do; i.e., they refuse to acknowledge that a non-literal interpretation of religious texts could be valid. None of them like it when I point that out, though.

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[info]honorh
2006-05-04 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Boy, it's refreshing to see the areligious being wanky for a change!

As for the posit that atheists don't kill in the name of a god, I'll give them that, but one must also note that some atheistic political regimes have certainly done their share of slaughter. Stalin, anyone?

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[info]wankprophet
2006-05-04 07:05 pm UTC (link)
For a change? They've been getting wankier every year since around the time Nietzsche died. I think the grief unbalanced them or something.

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[info]photosinensis
2006-05-04 09:33 pm UTC (link)
Just remember: you can't spell slaughter without laughter.

This post brought to you by too much seratonin in my brain.

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[info]azawakh
2006-05-04 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Haha. Drawn Together lurrrrve. Unless they ganked it from someone else, in which case, they get a sizeable cut of the lurrrve.

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(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2006-05-04 11:42 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-05-05 07:01 am UTC (link)
Boy, it's refreshing to see the areligious being wanky for a change!

You need to hang out at IIDB more often. That place is a wank-a-second forum.

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[info]doroc_sabah
2006-05-04 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Reincarnation is violence?

No one implies you're going to suffer more as a rock.

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[info]wankprophet
2006-05-04 07:06 pm UTC (link)
I dunno. Being sculpted gotta be a bitch.

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[info]doroc_sabah
2006-05-04 07:20 pm UTC (link)
And glaciation.

Oooooh, glaciation.

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-05-04 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-05-04 07:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2006-05-04 09:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-05-04 10:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2006-05-04 08:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-05-04 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2006-05-05 05:00 am UTC

[info]queencallipygos
2006-05-04 07:42 pm UTC (link)
See, this is exactly why I don't even categorize people by religion, political affiliation, philosophical allignment, any of that -- the only two categories into which I ever place people are "dinks" and "non-dinks."

Makes things much simpler.

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[info]notjo
2006-05-04 11:40 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't agree more, although "twits" and "people who get a second chance" are my categories. ;)

(This makes me want to make an awful joke about how there are three types of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.)

But mostly: Icon Love.

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[info]freezer
2006-05-05 12:19 am UTC (link)
I tend to go with the baser, but more to-the-point "'You Suck' and 'You Dont' Suck'"

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(no subject) - [info]antimatterspork, 2006-05-05 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-05-05 12:47 am UTC

[info]kadath
2006-05-04 08:27 pm UTC (link)
I rape and murder because it's fun. And for money.

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iwanttobeasleep
2006-05-04 08:47 pm UTC (link)
People pay you to rape?

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(no subject) - [info]suziecroft, 2006-05-04 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2006-05-04 09:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-05-05 06:11 am UTC

[info]rachel_pi
2006-05-04 10:29 pm UTC (link)
I like [info]horvendile. S/he seems all sensible-like.

And let me just digress from the actual topic of wank and say that the Dominionists are scary.

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[info]greenling
2006-05-04 10:32 pm UTC (link)
And let me just digress from the actual topic of wank and say that the Dominionists are scary.

The important bit, that. *shudders*

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[info]miss_padfoot
2006-05-04 11:30 pm UTC (link)
Oh hell yes. They scare the fuck out of me. That's really why the comm exists in the first place: because Dominionists are scary.

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-05-04 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-05-05 12:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-05-05 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-05-05 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-05-05 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]renata_hpjc, 2006-05-05 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hanncoll, 2006-05-05 12:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]utahraptor, 2006-05-05 12:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-05-05 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2006-05-05 02:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-05-05 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2006-05-05 06:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2006-05-05 02:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-05-05 02:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]utahraptor, 2006-05-05 03:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruby_tuesday, 2006-05-05 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2006-05-05 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2006-05-05 12:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2006-05-05 06:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2006-05-05 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-05-05 09:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2006-05-05 09:52 pm UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2006-05-05 02:06 am UTC (link)
Militant anything generally marks a person as a fucking moron. I have no idea why we'd restrict it to religious and anti-religious portions.

...I also hate it when religions are attributed to the reasoning behind violence. Because, y'know, it's not like people weren't cruel, violent asshole long before mass religion was formed.

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[info]honorh
2006-05-05 04:25 am UTC (link)
Religion, IMHO, rarely serves as the basis for a person's violent tendencies. However, it does often (and unfortunately) serve as a rationale for them.

I really don't understand those people. My faith gives me a reason and the strength to squelch my worse impulses.

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(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-05-05 07:50 am UTC
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[info]avari
2006-05-05 05:29 am UTC (link)
Frankly, I've never seen an Atheist behave wankily in RL, and I can't say the same for religious people. Heck, perhaps the US concentrate most of the Christian and (the few) Atheist militants? ;)

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[info]miss_padfoot
2006-05-05 02:59 pm UTC (link)
Well, you may be right. In fact, some atheists may be militant just as a response to annoying Christians, which would explain why the US would get them more than other countries.

But then, a lot of people consider Richard Dawkins a militant atheist (I'm not sure if he's militant so much as just really snobby about it), and he's British, and he's probably the most well-known atheist in the world at the moment.

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(no subject) - [info]doroc_sabah, 2006-05-06 10:32 pm UTC

[info]bangoskank
2006-05-05 06:37 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow, I have. I've been told I'm insane and mentally ill to my face by a wanky atheist.

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