Current mood:

Flippant

LJ Abuse vs Boob Nazis
cali4niachef is informed by LJ Abuse her default icon is inappropriate and to cease using it by the 23rd or face having her account suspended.

Boob Nazis. LJ Abuse. Breastfeeding Icons.

I think we can all see where this is going. (booju_mooju first of all it seems.)

Once the anti-breastfeeding comms get hold of this it should really take off.

Edit the first Thanks to quickfade Apparently hardvice is responsible Icons in comments NSFW.

Edit the second Thanks to a mousie. cf_hardcore join the party.

Edit the third Thanks to freezer It hits metaquotes.

Edit the forth stupid_free weigh in. And fuckyoulist makes an appearance too.

Edit the fifth Just how much further can it spread? As far as retarded_icons, blackfolk and feminist apparently.

Edit the sixth hardvice shows solidarity with the boob_nazis. And magdalene74 has a new lj approved breastfeeding icon.

And to think when I originally posted this I was worried it wasn't wanky enough.

Edit the seventh Annnnnnnnnnd here's anti-feminist joining in the fun.

Edit the eighth Predictably - Exposing LJ Abuse

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Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong

ladybirdsleeps
2006-05-20 08:29 pm UTC (link)

For legal reasons, LiveJournal Abuse doesn't police the site. They only act on reports. If someone is using an obscene icon, the most likely explanation is that no one has bothered to report them, not that LJ Abuse is a member of a Sekrit Conspiracy against breastfeeding activists.

That's why you see people whose internet lives are full of drama are more likely to end up on the wrong end of LJ Abuse, even though they're only breaking the same rule everyone does.

Go ahead and report someone's obscene default icon and see what happens. (Note: This only works with *default* icons. People can post in comms with non-default icons, and I really have no idea what LJ Abuse's policy is regarding that.)

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Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong

frequentmouse
2006-05-20 08:37 pm UTC (link)

Speaking here as someone who has seen the rise and fall of popular online gathering places, the problem comes when "not policing the site for legal reasons" coupled with ambiguous TOS regulations and volunteers making decisions about banning for TOS violations leads to a perception of unfareness and thence to customer dissatisfaction.

Which, you know, F_W itself is an example of.

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	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong ladybirdsleeps 2006-05-20 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	I don't really care about your opinions on LJ Abuse, although I will say that LJ Abuse could be perfect and it would still be surrounded by tons of wank and controversy. I was explaining why some people are smacked for inappropriate default icons and why others aren't. That's it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong frequentmouse 2006-05-20 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	I have no bitch with LJ abuse as a thing-in-itself; I'm just saying that my observation indicates that that form of moderation is prone to disasterous failure. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong shaggydogstail 2006-05-20 09:06 pm UTC (link)
	What 'legal reasons' could LJ have for not policing the site? I can see it being a practical problem--LJ's just too big to check each and every member's default icon on a regular basis--but I don't get how that's a legal issue. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong frequentmouse 2006-05-20 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	I think it has to do with the assumption of responsibility; it LJ says it actively enforces its TOS, and then someone makes a violation of TOS that's also a violation of law somewhere (say, for example, Australia's take on written porn) then LJ is liable for prosecution by that government. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong ladybirdsleeps 2006-05-20 09:29 pm UTC (link)
	It was a long time ago that I read about this, so I don't remember the technicals. Basically, by policing the site rather than just acting on reports, LJ would be assuming more legal responsibility for the site's content than they can handle. They could get into trouble for hosting illegal content, for example. If you want specifics, try emailing them. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Someone correct me if I'm wrong shaggydogstail 2006-05-20 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	OK, I can see the logic of that. Thanks. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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