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LJ Abuse vs Boob Nazis
cali4niachef is informed by LJ Abuse her default icon is inappropriate and to cease using it by the 23rd or face having her account suspended.

Boob Nazis. LJ Abuse. Breastfeeding Icons.

I think we can all see where this is going. (booju_mooju first of all it seems.)

Once the anti-breastfeeding comms get hold of this it should really take off.

Edit the first Thanks to quickfade Apparently hardvice is responsible Icons in comments NSFW.

Edit the second Thanks to a mousie. cf_hardcore join the party.

Edit the third Thanks to freezer It hits metaquotes.

Edit the forth stupid_free weigh in. And fuckyoulist makes an appearance too.

Edit the fifth Just how much further can it spread? As far as retarded_icons, blackfolk and feminist apparently.

Edit the sixth hardvice shows solidarity with the boob_nazis. And magdalene74 has a new lj approved breastfeeding icon.

And to think when I originally posted this I was worried it wasn't wanky enough.

Edit the seventh Annnnnnnnnnd here's anti-feminist joining in the fun.

Edit the eighth Predictably - Exposing LJ Abuse

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frequentmouse
2006-05-20 08:43 pm UTC (link)

I've seen the dissatisfaction, but I don't think it's reached the tipping point yet. On AOL that point came when there was sufficient dissatisfaction for people to start threatening lawsuits under the Americans with Disabilities Act because of CCHR/Co$ trolling on several mental health and parenting support boards. It took slightly longer than LJ has even been around between the first TOS blow-ups and the "change in business model."

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	khym_chanur 2006-05-20 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	Oooh, do you have any links? Or even any search terms I could use? Google isn't doing me much good, since "aol" comes up much too often in email adresses. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

frequentmouse
2006-05-20 09:45 pm UTC (link)

As far as I know, all the old message boards were taken down; the primary points of contention were on the ADHD, Depression, Autism, Vaccination and Health Issues Debate boards in the Health area, the Parenting Children with ADHD and other Challenges board in the parenting area, and the Special Education and Education Reform boards in the Education area. There was a whole lot that never got past Email, especially after one Health mod banned all the parents of ADHD kids and psychologists treating the disorder from the ADHD board, and left some Co$ trolls.

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	khym_chanur 2006-05-20 09:53 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, I was hoping that someone would have done a write-up of it somewhere on the internet. ... Vacination? What does Scientology have to do with vacinations? Or was vacination debate done on the same board(s) as ADHD, depression and so on? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	frequentmouse 2006-05-20 10:03 pm UTC (link)
	If anyone has written it up, I've lost track of them. Things got way too fraught right before the end. The vaccination board was collateral damage; some of the allies of the Citizens Council for Human Rights were Chiropractors, Naturopaths, and believers in mercury preservatives as the cause of Autistic Spectrum Disorders, so the conflict slopped over. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	khym_chanur 2006-05-20 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	Did these people have no idea how batshit an "ally" they had in CCHR? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	frequentmouse 2006-05-21 01:15 am UTC (link)
	Hell if I know; I do know that a whole lot of them were convinced that not supporting modern medicine for any reason was a positive virtue in and of itself. (Reply to this)(Parent)

rosehiptea
2006-05-21 12:33 am UTC (link)

Wow. I was on several of the volunteer-run boards watching them disappear one by one, and I didn't realize that was what had started it.

I do remember seeing people attacked on an ADHD board, when lurking a couple of times, and thinking that they really didn't have a good place to talk about medicating their kids without being attacked, but I didn't know it had gone that far.

I do remember some fairly batshit people on the vaccination debate board. I'm not saying they shouldn't have been there; that's why it was a debate board, but they were weird. One of them wrote a paper about why the "germ theory of disease" was a myth and her friends were all squeeing over it and wanting to read it.

It was really a shame to me, because they didn't just stop having volunteer run boards, they just shut down all the fun/wanky/supportive/attacking/horrible communities that made AOL something different from regular internet access.

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frequentmouse
2006-05-21 01:14 am UTC (link)

In 1999 my family and I went to Britain with a group of people from the AOL Rose Board; some of my closest RL friends are people I met online on the garden boards.

The boards just got too wanky to live, and there were other legal exposures that AOL couldn't handle, many of them resulting from volunteer errors. The situation chased a downward spiral of membership, people leaving the boards en masse while keeping AOL as an email address for convenience sake.

I'd really hate to see the same thing happen to LJ, but I think the lesson is that there's a point where a business gets too big to depend on unpaid volunteers in critical positions.

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rosehiptea
2006-05-21 01:22 am UTC (link)

I met a bunch of great people on the Homeschooling board, some of which I met IRL later (after keeping in touch through a private Yahoo! group.)

The Homeschooling board could get wanky, particularly due to the religious issues that came up, but it was an excellent resource and I lost all interest in AOL when it disappeared.

But, I agree completely with what you are saying about volunteers.

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gingersnaps
2006-05-22 12:48 am UTC (link)

but I think the lesson is that there's a point where a business gets too big to depend on unpaid volunteers in critical positions.

Very much agree. In the case of LJ Abuse, the paid people on the team aren't really much better. They seem to have developed an attitude of "defend decisions made by team members, however artitrary", and in this case retroactively changed the rules (from sexual acts and graphic violence to just nudity and graphic violence) to justify themselves.

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