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Jon "Bad Wasabi" Wood ([info]mcity) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-05-27 20:11:00


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You Will be assimilated.
April 12th; A video is posted on YouTube. Basically, it states(NSFW) that gay pride parades are hurting gay rights by beating moderates over the head with their homosexuality, and providing ammo for fundies. For over six minutes. And yes, oh yes, there is a shot of someone in backless leather chaps. Lo, check out the comments, for there is wank.

Back on LJ, cargoweasel posts a link, and almost entirely misses the point. And—this is a first people—the gay rights movement is compared to furries' struggle for acceptance you can't make this stuff up. Your fur and mine, [info]triggur, posts it in his blog, since he made it. And they're off. And kynn)?) weighs in. ZOMG BANNED And you don't want to see how queer_rage reacted. Almost everyone opposing seems to think that the video is saying gays should be drab. And the word "closeted" is abused more than David Guest, which is ironic, considering that the narrator admitted he was gay about halfway through.

Please, no furbashing.
EDIT: Added commentary.


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[info]gal_montag
2006-05-28 01:51 am UTC (link)
I don't think that getting rid of Pride is in anybody's best interest (except, y'know, Pat Robertson's). Maybe tone down the rimming in the street, though. Although I do wish that [info]lokilokust would find a term other than Uncle Tom to refer to self-hating gays.

Also, I fail to see how holding hands can be likened to donning leather gear. But that's just me.

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[info]nanthimus
2006-05-28 01:55 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it really seems like there's no middle ground here. Either you're flat out fucking in the streets or you're barred from even looking at each other.

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[info]glossing2
2006-05-28 03:33 am UTC (link)
Maybe tone down the rimming in the street, though.
There's rimming in the streets? Damn, I'm going to the wrong parades.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2006-05-28 03:43 am UTC
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[info]beandelphiki
2006-05-28 08:14 am UTC (link)
Although I do wish that lokilokust would find a term other than Uncle Tom to refer to self-hating gays.

Yes. I very much wish queers HAD an equivalent (I don't know of any), because we could sure use one, but I have no plans, personally, to try to use that term. It's just inappropriate.

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(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2006-05-28 10:37 am UTC
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[info]shaggydogstail
2006-05-28 02:21 am UTC (link)
I can kind of see triggur's point about live-action public sex shows probably not being the best PR for gay rights, but he went way over the top with all that stuff about 'setting the cause of gay rights back decades' and all. Seriously, I don't think your average moderate citizen is going to turn into a frothing homophobe just because they see a few drag queens in carnival costumes.

Also, I've been on a lot of Gay Pride marches and that's the first time I've ever seen rimming in public. I could have done without that.

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[info]v_digitalwytch
2006-05-28 05:17 am UTC (link)
Been to many a parade and that was my first time seeing a rimming done in public too. Have seen quite a bit of active groping where one of the other parade participants told them to tone it down though.

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[info]lindentreeisle
2006-05-28 02:21 pm UTC (link)
Eh. If the crazy gay-haters don't have gay pride parades to use to scare the moderates, they'll just find something else. Or make something up, like the old lie about how "omg gays will steal your children and eat them!" or whatever. So yeah, wank rather over the top, to say the least.

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-28 11:18 pm UTC
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[info]greenling
2006-05-29 07:01 am UTC (link)
Seriously, I don't think your average moderate citizen is going to turn into a frothing homophobe just because they see a few drag queens in carnival costumes.

Oh, I don't know; I don't presume people are that intelligent, and I've known people who've done pretty much that.

There is a point, though, when you figure that trying to capture the hearts and minds of the average person is simply not worth having to work them through all their various psychological issues first.

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[info]freezer
2006-05-28 02:38 am UTC (link)
Was it just me, or did the voice over on that You Tube clip sound disturbingly similar to what you might here on a "NAMBLA isn't all that bad" tape?

As for the Gay Pride parades (minus the sex acts, of course)being bad for the homosexual cause... I'll admit, that I'm loathe to see some Freddie Mercury look-alike in a rainbow Speedo and butterfly wings prance around like a fey idiot. But you know what? I'm just as loathe to see John Q. Packerfan's 400lb, man-boobed, painted chest on national TV, or some 5'1", 190 sista in WAY too many sizes small hot pants shake it like a jello cube salt shaker.

And I realize that it's their right to do that. And most likely they realize that they look like utter idiots (Well, Baby Girl in the hotpants doesn't, but that's another story) and they choose to do so, because they're making themselves look stupid and having fun for their cause.

And as long as they keep their "fun" above the neck line, I got no real beef with that.

*steps off soapbox*

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[info]sorchar
2006-05-28 03:44 am UTC (link)
Baby Girl should wear hotpants that are her actual size, though. She'll look better and be much more comfortable. *is a former seller of plus size clothes and still a wearer of same*

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[info]wanktastic
2006-05-28 06:24 am UTC (link)
And as long as they keep their "fun" above the neck line, I got no real beef with that.

Goddamn it. Now I have "One Night in Bangkok" stuck in my head.

"I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine..."

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(no subject) - [info]mastervex, 2006-05-30 11:53 pm UTC
Earth logic has no place here!
[info]adora_spintriae
2006-05-28 09:49 am UTC (link)
But don't you know? Straight people make idiots out of themselves just because they're stupid. If they're gay and doing it, their weirdness is because they're homosexuals.

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Re: Earth logic has no place here! - [info]shaggydogstail, 2006-05-28 12:04 pm UTC

[info]mcity
2006-05-28 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Was it just me, or did the voice over on that You Tube clip sound disturbingly similar to what you might here on a "NAMBLA isn't all that bad" tape?
I thought it sounded like the narrator from "Loose Change", meself.
or some 5'1", 190 sista in WAY too many sizes small hot pants shake it like a jello cube salt shaker.
Sadly, in my country, I don't even have to turn on the TV. Just set up a boombox on a corner.

My sister and I, when we ride together, make a game out of pointing these women out for our mother.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2006-05-28 04:26 am UTC (link)
All public get-togethers are bad. I vote we ban public football games, all parades, circuses, and public baseball games.

But leave hockey. 'Cause I like it.

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[info]chaimonkey
2006-05-28 05:24 am UTC (link)
I must support the idea that the more over displays at Pride parades do hurt other gays in society - it would've been a helluva lot easier for me to come out if these parades hadn't shaped my mom's idea of "gay culture." Thought being bi was going to land me prancing on the street with AIDS, she did.

What I learned from this wank: Queers suck at insults. (vomit and feeding the dog dicks? FAIL)

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[info]chaimonkey
2006-05-28 05:24 am UTC (link)
*overt

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[info]greenling
2006-05-29 07:06 am UTC (link)
What I learned from this wank: Queers suck at insults. (vomit and feeding the dog dicks? FAIL)

Can I abduct a harem to bear your children? ♥

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iwanttobeasleep
2006-05-28 05:49 am UTC (link)
:cries:

I want out of this subculture.

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-28 11:23 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-29 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-05-29 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-29 03:17 am UTC
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[info]aerobot
2006-05-28 06:07 am UTC (link)
I can't view the video, but I'll say this - from what I've seen of the Gay Pride Parades here in Australia, the event is not only for gay rights but also for people just to have some FUN. And if that makes people happy, all the power to 'em.

(Of course, I've never noticed rimming in the GPPs. WTF?)

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-05-28 06:22 am UTC
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Tangent; - [info]mcity, 2006-05-28 11:30 pm UTC
Re: Tangent; - [info]evening_rose, 2006-05-30 02:29 am UTC
Re: Tangent; - [info]mcity, 2006-05-30 04:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jar, 2006-05-28 09:16 am UTC
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[info]adora_spintriae
2006-05-28 09:45 am UTC (link)
and almost entirely misses the point

No.

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(no subject) - [info]beandelphiki, 2006-05-29 07:06 pm UTC

[info]avari
2006-05-28 11:06 am UTC (link)
"gay pride parades are hurting gay rights by beating moderates over the head with their homosexuality, and providing ammo for fundies"

I'm not too sure what he means by "modearate". Is it heterosexuals who have nothing against homosexuals? I haven't seen many gay prides (the only one I saw had a bit too much bare skin and groping for me), and I think behaving in public is a good idea - for straight and gay couples alike.

But on the other hand, when I see what happened for example in Russia yesterday, I'm not sure hiding your homosexuality is doing any good when confronted by such fruitcakes...

"Gay rights activists were pummeled by right-wing protesters and detained by police Saturday, preventing them from putting on a display of gay pride in defiance of a city ban.

Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov said in a radio interview Friday gay parades "may be acceptable for some kind of progressive, in some sense, countries in the West, but it is absolutely unacceptable for Moscow, for Russia."

(...) and the first half-dozen activists arrived carrying flowers were set upon by about 100 religious and nationalist extremists who kicked and punched them.

"Moscow is not Sodom!" they shouted. Women wearing head scarves held up religious icons while men in Cossack white sheepskin hats and black-and-red tunics stood by."

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-28 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-05-29 01:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-05-29 01:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-05-29 02:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-05-29 01:22 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2006-05-29 05:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2006-05-29 05:26 am UTC
Totally OT - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-05-29 04:18 pm UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]lady7jane, 2006-05-31 04:16 am UTC
Re: Totally OT - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-05-31 05:46 am UTC

[info]onaga
2006-05-28 12:35 pm UTC (link)
Every time I have to accept cookies to go to a wanky idiot's LJ, part of my soul dies.

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[info]doroc_sabah
2006-05-28 12:58 pm UTC (link)
It's those fucking furries.

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[info]moriath
2006-05-28 05:10 pm UTC (link)
I hate the video more for it's incredible redundancy than anything else. Yes, you think gay pride parades are teh ebil. WE GOT IT FIVE MINUTES AGO. Plz to be shutting up now, k thx.

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redwarrior
2006-05-30 05:50 pm UTC (link)
As long as gay people aren't doing what straight people aren't allowed to do in public, I'm fine with it.

I thought we wanted equality, not sooper speshul treatment. Geez.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2006-05-31 01:41 am UTC
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