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souris ([info]souris) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-06-09 08:36:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*

"You don't know the origins of the Dutch people like I do! You're just glib!"
Thanks to the mousie on [info]wank_report who found this.

Over at lolita_fucks (which appears to be an outfit mocking community for elitist lolitas and, apart from the name, perfectly work safe), theaphelia posts a couple of links to pictures. The fourth picture prompts aingli_deas to generalise a bit:

"Four, I like leyla, but yeah, that picture is awful, and the top clashes, badly. Though the Germans aren't known for excellent fashion sense. ^____^"

Once told that the woman in the picture is actually from the Netherlands, aingli_deas responds with "Same difference. :p", and they're off! And by "they", I mostly mean "aingli_deas", although she couldn't have done it without the participation of chapeauxchick and kai_nimura.

"Get a grip. Most german people don't give two shits about the dutch being some special little race, they are not that much different."

In that thread, the argument ranges from the proper understanding of racial anthropology to who's the idiot when the use of 'German' and 'Germanic' as synonyms without explanation creates confusion to personal attacks to racism to an indignant friend coming to rescue. Three guesses if somebody breaks Godwin's Law during all that.

A couple of days after everyone else has stopped, a comment that looks like the ghost of wanks past makes an appearance.

Even if you don't follow any other links, take a look at the map helpfully provided by vkzombie. It's a thing of beauty and joy.




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pink_lightning
2006-06-09 05:58 am UTC (link)
O.o Those are some nice outfits, particularly the first. I've seen much much much worse.

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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2006-06-09 10:41 am UTC
(no subject) - pink_lightning, 2006-06-09 05:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elemcee, 2006-06-09 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - pink_lightning, 2006-06-09 07:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elemcee, 2006-06-09 07:56 pm UTC

[info]rachel1496
2006-06-09 06:14 am UTC (link)
"Regardless of where she is, she's a German"

Now that is some beautiful logic.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-06-09 11:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spleen, 2006-06-09 06:00 pm UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2006-06-09 06:18 am UTC (link)
Mmm, semantics!

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(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-06-09 10:50 am UTC

[info]expeliarbum
2006-06-09 06:32 am UTC (link)
Oooh, that map was a thing of beauty. I reminded me a little of this

Also, I'd like to know what exactly is wrong with those outfits *hides*

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2006-06-09 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-06-09 11:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibicurmudgeon, 2006-06-11 01:50 am UTC

[info]vigilanterodent
2006-06-09 06:36 am UTC (link)
Though the Germans aren't known for excellent fashion sense. ^____^

And yet practically every wank ever about Nazi uniforms involves discussion of how hot those things looked.

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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2006-06-09 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowerstar, 2006-06-09 12:43 pm UTC

kroki_refur
2006-06-09 06:48 am UTC (link)
Wow, the wanker seems to think she knows everything about anthropology because she knows there is "no racial difference between Dutch and Germans". Yet she doesn't seem to have grasped the simple anthropological fact that your race does not affect your fashion sense. Weird.

(On the other hand, I think she may not be a native speaker of English, since she thinks "German" and "Germanic" are the same, and described the whole issue as a "geological" one. I don't know, those Dutch German sedimentary strata are just sooo poorly accesorised, ya know?)

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(no subject) - [info]glossing2, 2006-06-09 10:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eryn, 2006-06-13 08:27 pm UTC

[info]seraphtrevs
2006-06-09 06:49 am UTC (link)
O_o Not related to the wank at hand, but Jesus fucking Christ, the comments there are BRUTAL. I thought the sporking comms I belonged to were mean.

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(no subject) - [info]musouka, 2006-06-09 07:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]twoiskewl, 2006-06-09 11:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zinkchan, 2006-06-10 03:34 am UTC

[info]mochibuni
2006-06-09 06:57 am UTC (link)
The model Yaya has some beautiful costumes and pictures! I'm too captivated by them to pay attention to the rest of the wank. XD

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(no subject) - [info]mochibuni, 2006-06-09 07:10 am UTC

[info]bluenakedlady
2006-06-09 07:18 am UTC (link)
Oh goodie. Look at all the pointing fingers. I'm surprised no-one piped up with 'oi, watch where you're pointing that, you'll have someone's eye out!'

It looks like a playground fight, only with big words.

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(no subject) - [info]haunted, 2006-06-09 02:15 pm UTC

[info]solle
2006-06-09 07:40 am UTC (link)
Dutchie majoring in German, here. And I'm so tempted to step in and confuse the hell outta them.

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[info]rosina_alcona
2006-06-09 08:20 am UTC (link)
Get a grip. Most german people don't give two shits about the dutch being some special little race, they are not that much different.

Wow. Seriously. My Dutch friends would be very interested to hear they've been German all along. And if they'd had this information 60 years ago when Germany invaded them, maybe they wouldn't have tried to resist the troops but instead danced around in their (German) clogs singing 'it's a small world after all...'

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(no subject) - [info]indis_earfalas, 2006-06-09 10:32 am UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2006-06-09 11:03 am UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2006-06-09 11:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosina_alcona, 2006-06-09 11:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2006-06-09 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - neoangelss, 2006-06-10 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2006-06-09 04:19 pm UTC
*ducks and hides* - neoangelss, 2006-06-10 07:39 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - neoangelss, 2006-06-10 07:41 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - [info]goldberry, 2006-06-10 07:43 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - neoangelss, 2006-06-10 07:51 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - [info]goldberry, 2006-06-10 08:04 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - neoangelss, 2006-06-10 08:12 pm UTC
Re: *ducks and hides* - [info]goldberry, 2006-06-10 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2006-06-09 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2006-06-11 10:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2006-06-09 12:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosina_alcona, 2006-06-09 12:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-06-09 02:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-06-09 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2006-06-11 10:19 pm UTC

[info]cjk
2006-06-09 08:38 am UTC (link)
Okay, so there's no difference between the Dutch and the Germans, German people can't dress, the Germanic race has goofy lederhosen, and LJ gets a say. Okay!

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[info]anne_noonlight
2006-06-09 08:45 am UTC (link)
Normally I have respect for people who fight for their cause against massive odds, but when that cause is stupidity against all evidence, I've got to make an exception.

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[info]sashenka
2006-06-09 09:35 am UTC (link)
You know, it's funny, but I looked at some of the active member's pictures of themselves dressed as lolitas and I'm yet to see one that looks as good as any of the stuff they make fun of. I was expecting some georgeous women in amazing hand-made dresses, but it's all Japan brand-bought crap on OK and ugly girls who are making fun of people, many of whom actually made their own clothin and were creative. Does anyone know if this comm is connected in any way to the departed Cosplay_Fucks? I also think it's funny that they're so anti-hottopic, because it's trendy to hate Hottopic right now, I guess... instead of, you know, not caring what store someone buys their clothing in (Didn't you know? You can't be friends with people who shop in different places!).

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(no subject) - [info]_dinsdale, 2006-06-09 12:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2006-06-09 02:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-06-09 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2006-06-09 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]penguinfaery, 2006-06-14 03:55 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2006-06-09 10:39 am UTC (link)
So wait. If two countries have the same roots, they're basically all the same? It makes me wonder why many of the European countries hated each other so much - they're pretty much all the same country! Or, y'know, not.

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(no subject) - pink_lightning, 2006-06-09 05:19 pm UTC

[info]avari
2006-06-09 12:20 pm UTC (link)
This is the first time I look around a lolita community, and my first impression is: wow, those are some ugly clothes.

same difference. :P

I want to take that moron on a holiday at my parents, in South Korea, and have her say to Koreans "Koreans and Chinese? Koreans and Japanese? Same difference". That would be interesting.

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(no subject) - sharonapple, 2006-06-09 05:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-06-10 12:32 am UTC

[info]mrbimble
2006-06-09 12:32 pm UTC (link)
This one killed me: I am not one for "Nationality", since the world is one jumbled mess anyways.

So... rather than call people by the country of their birth, I'm going to lump them all into large groups based on their (presumed) genetic makeup!

...

Yeah, that makes lots of sense, doesn't it? Makes things *so* much clearer...

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(no subject) - chief, 2006-06-09 04:29 pm UTC

[info]flowerstar
2006-06-09 12:50 pm UTC (link)
Yes, of course all Germans (oops, sorry, Germanic people) wear Lederhosen. Didn't you know? There is no such thing as a regional variety which is actually on of the most variable of Europe - in the South of Germany alone there are four or five types of traditional clothing, and the Lederhosen is only one of them. Sorry, but that's a pet peeve of mine. Germans != Bavarians!
Not to mention that Germans != Dutch, but well ... You know that anyway ;).

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(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-06-09 01:41 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2006-06-09 08:28 pm UTC
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[info]kadath
2006-06-09 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Hmm...in many cases, I can't tell the difference between "good" and "bad." As far as I can tell, they all look like they're trying to get fucked by the goth Humbert Humbert.

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[info]mathilde
2006-06-09 01:32 pm UTC (link)
WTF is "Nordish"?

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[info]dramedy
2006-06-09 02:39 pm UTC (link)
asdfjlk.

I have blonde hair and blue eyes, and of anything, I'm mostly Italian.

Personally, I'm just wondering why Hamlet was the "Prince of Denmark," when apparently, every one is Germanic.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-06-09 06:36 pm UTC
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dracothelizard
2006-06-09 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh, sure, the Dutch won't mind AT ALL to be called Germans.

Which is why we're gearing up to kick their asses at the world championship football.

Oh no! Because the Dutch and the German are the same, this means we must form one team!

And people wonder why Europeans think Americans are ignorant when it comes to European history and geography. And yes, I am totally presuming that aingli something is American, because no European would go 'the Dutch and the Germans are the same, lol' unless they want to die.

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(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-06-09 03:48 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-06-09 05:16 pm UTC
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[info]rowan
2006-06-09 05:14 pm UTC (link)
European wank!

... I want Dutch food now, kthx. Which happens to be very different from German food! Shock!

(Well, I'll take German food too. Mmm, spatzel.)

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