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quickfade ([info]quickfade) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-06-18 22:24:00


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Won't someone think of the baybeeeezzzz?!
Over on LJ in [info]booju_mooju, the community of sanity and logic (ok, I made that bit up), [info]dorkus_malorkus makes a post criticising the alleged hypocrisy of 'liberal' parents.

Included in this list of contradictions is the fact that liberal parents allow their children to drink... GASP!... alcohol! Cue liberal (teehee) amounts of wank.

[info]jessy10192 admits that she has killed let her kids have sips of alcohol. And we're off!

[info]ramonesbrat is horrified and posts a thinly veiled threat to call the CPS on the previous poster.

[info]peachtheif butts in to call her on this threat and point out that European kids are fairly regularly exposed to the ebil alcohol!1!

[info]littleduchess shows up to impart her pearls of wisdom... oh, and the fact that she actually grew up in France and has experienced the culture first hand.

[info]merlyn4401 thinks she is wrong. And has googled links to prove it!1!!11

[info]peachthief tries to bring her logic to the yard. But damn, right, it's not better than theirs.

So [info]peachthief asks for some evidence.

[info]prime_radiant: FUCKING EVIDENCE? YOU DON'T NEED EVIDENCE. PEOPLE SHOULD JUST KNNNNNOOOOOWWWW THAT ONE TINY SIP OF ALCOHOL KILLS KIDS DEAD!!11!! IT'S COMMON SENSEEEEEE!11!!

And we also have [info]bunny_lover proving that to win an argument all you have to do is type like an idiot and insult the other person a lot. Only, you know, you don't win at all and just end up looking like a loser...

Finally, [info]prime_radiant states that anyone who thinks people in Europe give their kids alcohol, including those actually from Europe, are WRONG!

Just for the record, I'm European and think [info]prime_radiant is full of shit. But, meh.

All 600+ comments are worth a read. I can't really do the whole WTFness of the wank justice with these few lines. *sniff*



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[info]gal_montag
2006-06-18 09:38 pm UTC (link)
First, I wish that [info]prime_radient would just STFU. And for [info]bunny_lover a "gulp" and a "shot" are not even remotely in the general vicinity of a sip and to say so is hyperbole at it's worst. That community should be called OMGZ, IM A BETTOR MOTHR TAN U!!!

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(no subject) - [info]quickfade, 2006-06-18 09:56 pm UTC
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[info]benighted
2006-06-18 09:40 pm UTC (link)
Uh, guys? It's a teeny, tiny sip of alcohol. It's not like they're slipping them Drano.

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[info]smo
2006-06-18 09:44 pm UTC (link)
The traditional French approach was part of the tradition that wine was the only thing that was safe to drink, and alcohol like jello shots didn't really exist, or were popular. It has nothing to do with America.

Well, who else but an American would come up with something like a jello shot?

And anyway, the French don't *just* drink wine, even as part of a traditional diet. But what they do drink, they drink IN. MODERATION. And because they don't demonize it, they actually have a healthy attitude towards it, and don't drink to get drunk. What a concept, eh?

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[info]seraphtrevs
2006-06-18 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that's a whole lot of stupid.

And it just goes to show you that alcohol is not the only way to inflict massive brain damage on a person, if the teetotalers over there are any indication.

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Oh dear lord...
[info]bluenakedlady
2006-06-18 09:45 pm UTC (link)
I read that earlier today (got there through metaquotes). 30 minutes of my life I will never get back. *woe*

I'm not sure whether to point and laugh, or wade in there with a stick and start hitting people...

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[info]misty
2006-06-18 09:50 pm UTC (link)
My god, I've been watching this wank all day and have been continually amazed that it hadn't made otf_wank yet. Or wank_report. So I was gonna start writing one up out of exasperation.

But you beat me. And for that, I thank you.

*boobflash of appreciation*

;D

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(no subject) - [info]quickfade, 2006-06-18 09:53 pm UTC
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[info]belafarinrod
2006-06-18 09:52 pm UTC (link)
And most Europeans don't like American wines.

Yeah, right. That's why the California wines are outselling the French ones even in France

Also, while France may have less problems with binge drinking, they have a huuuuuge problem with liver damages and other long-term effects of 2-3 glasses of wine a day. Of course, this doesn't affect a kid getting a sip now and then but the thread is just so full of stupid

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Random opinion sharing. - [info]threegoldfish, 2006-06-18 09:59 pm UTC
Re: Random opinion sharing. - [info]belafarinrod, 2006-06-18 10:05 pm UTC
Re: Random opinion sharing. - [info]threegoldfish, 2006-06-18 10:08 pm UTC
Re: Random opinion sharing. - [info]belafarinrod, 2006-06-19 08:35 am UTC
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[info]the_wanlorn
2006-06-18 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Oh no! I killed my cousin because I gave her a sip of the toast at the wedding reception yesterday! Woe and betide, I must now go drink myself to death!!

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[info]sorchar
2006-06-18 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Hahahaha. Idiots. I've already wanked on this topic (on a breastfeeding wank post, in fact) so I'll refrain from repeating it.

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-06-18 09:56 pm UTC (link)
Surely I'm not the only person whose parents purposefully gave them sips of alcohol as children in hopes that they would think it was gross and be disenchanted with the concept. It worked for me - I didn't start drinking even semi-regularly until after my 21st birthday last January, and then almost entirely with girly drinks, because I still loathe the taste of beer.

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Oooooh Prime radiant
(Anonymous)
2006-06-18 09:59 pm UTC (link)
I think i should start following her around, as wank is sure to follow. She makes me insane.

But first, I must figure out what my LJ password is so i can log in. :(

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Re: Oooooh Prime radiant - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-06-19 08:38 am UTC
Re: Oooooh Prime radiant - (Anonymous), 2006-06-20 11:41 pm UTC

pink_lightning
2006-06-18 10:01 pm UTC (link)
My brother had a sip of a white wine and champagne mix at a party when he was a wee tot cos he thought it was punch. I found out and decided to try anyway. The taste was more than enough punishment for us. XP

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[info]gunshou
2006-06-18 10:02 pm UTC (link)
I really want to punch [info]ramonesbrat in the head and then go have a drink with my friends, in front of their kids.

Aw, fuck it. *has a beer, watches porn*

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[info]twocorpses
2006-06-18 10:07 pm UTC (link)
I don't get it... My uncle used to give his kids sips of his beer when they were younger and they turned out fine. And I don't know what the laws are in the US but up here, at least where I am, it is permissable for a parent to give a child alcohol if they are in their own home and it is their child. I'm not saying that people should be giving 7-year-olds bottles of beer but it's not illegal to give them a cup with a tiny bit in it or to give them a sip from the bottole. O_o

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-18 10:23 pm UTC (link)
To [info]prime_radiant's idea that Europeans are not more relaxed about alcohol, specifically, about giving it to their kids, I say http://community.livejournal.com/metaquotes/5213322.html?thread=82429066#t82429066 this. (Augh, ugly link, but oh well.) [info]la_laterne clears up some of the myths surrounding alcohol use in Europe in a clear, concise (and polite) way.

—hobbit-kicking mouse

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[info]xanos
2006-06-18 10:24 pm UTC (link)
Hm. *checks* Nope, still not dead, even though I used to steal sips of my mum's beer when I was a kid (it was foamy!) and drank wine at Passover... Maybe I have superpowers?

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-06-19 11:01 am UTC

[info]verpon
2006-06-18 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if these mothers would dimiss the UK as Evil due to the fact that the law states its okay for kids as young as 5 to drink alcohol. Hell, I even think 16 year olds can order a beer or some wine in a pub under certain cirumstances.

My parents gave me little sips of beer when I was that young and my liver didn't 'splode.

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[info]ticca
2006-06-18 10:34 pm UTC (link)
I must have the worst parents ever - my father once got me drunk on red wine when I was two or three because, and I quote my exasperated mother here, "he thought it would be funny."

I turned out OK.

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[info]sadisticferret
2006-06-18 10:49 pm UTC (link)
Heh, this reminds me of the time one of my cousin's kids (who was about three at the time) found a bottle of wine in a kitchen drawer and drank the whole thing. She ended up at the hospital getting her stomach pumped, and the doctor asked her if she was ever going to do that again, and she said, "Yeah! I wike wine!"

It wasn't surprising, really, considering she comes from a family of lushes.

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(no subject) - [info]shaggydogstail, 2006-06-19 01:11 am UTC

[info]cat_mcdougall
2006-06-18 10:58 pm UTC (link)
My best friend was born and raised in France. She can remember her twelfth birthday being a big huge humungous deal because she was finally allowed heavily watered down wine with dinner.

Seriously, people need to STFU and get over themselves. Not everyone raises their kids the same way. That doesn't mean it's ZOMG! WRONG! it just means that it is different.

[/annoyed]

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[info]lidane
2006-06-18 11:05 pm UTC (link)
I said this in metaquotes and I'll say it again here-- after reading all this booju_mooju wank lately, I'm convinced that if I ever have kids of my own, I'm not joining a single parenting community at LJ, just because I refuse to have the holier than thou types calling me a shitty parent for my choices. =P

These people are crazy. Seriously. It's like all rational thought and perspective left them as soon as their kids were born. WTF?

My uncles gave me small sips of their beer when I was a kid because I was curious. And I was allowed to openly drink in moderation when I was 15 and went with my mom and some relatives to France. I also had sips of wine every week at church, because I grew up Catholic. And I turned out just fine.

Seriously, WTF? I'm just baffled by all this wank. o_O

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-06-19 11:05 am UTC

[info]britikitty
2006-06-18 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Oh god, not [info]prime_radiant again. ¬_¬

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[info]avari
2006-06-18 11:19 pm UTC (link)
Oh my, I'm French and I had my first sip of wine at 5! Also, I was bottle-fed! Obviously, I'm DOOMED! *runs in circles screaming*

But seriously, I'm the first to admit France does have problems with alcohol, like any other Western country. While the consumption of alcohol has been going down regularly over the years, there are new attitudes to alcohol that are bad, like young people indulging now in binge-drinking.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2006-06-18 11:31 pm UTC (link)
I'm still trying to figure out how they equate dad sticking his finger into his beer glass and letting curious kiddo lick a drop off with pouring shots for toddlers.

But then, they all appear to be bugfuck crazy, other than [info]peachthief and a few others.

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-06-18 11:50 pm UTC

[info]oxydosic
2006-06-18 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Wow, [info]ramonesbrat completely misinterprets [info]jessy1019's post and just doesn't stop, does she? Every time jessy tries to explain, ramonesbrat just keeps twisting it around.

We're all entitled to our opinions, right? I just wouldn't associate with a person who drinks casually in front of their children.

If you want to do mind-altering things, don't have kids.

Bwuh? We're talking a beer or a glass of wine, not LSD. She acts like the moment alcohol touches your lips you start wearing a lampshade on your head and have the urge to put your baby in the oven.

Mmm, cooked baby.

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