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tiye ([info]tiye) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-06-18 20:58:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*
Current music:Marble Train Wreck: Hypocrite Land

Anthropology Wank!
My very first wank report!

Over in the anthropologist community on LJ, Yarinaosu posts about hir thoughts on yaoi the Out of Africa theory. S/h/it deleted the original post and reposted because "no one had respect for credible discussion." In the repost, s/h/it give detailed instructions on how readers are to respond, with threats of comment screening if these guidelines are not observed. S/h/it goes on to defend hir brilliant argument about the theory itself thus:

First of all, if you want to respond, respond to what I posted. This is proper evidence. Everything I say is either common knowledge or backed up through logical reasoning from common knowledge. "Research" is meaningless, as its just a word used by people to not actually target the issue, but instead avoid it. Since it is all theory, research can only lead one towards a thought, but cannot prove it. Furthermore, "digs" and "finds" in different places do not prove a thing, however, the lack of said finds or the lack of certain patterns can suggest that such a thing cannot happen.

The argument itself is a bit on the tl;dr side, but it is worth the read and contains much logic of the non-earthly persuasion. The wanking sets in immediately in the comments, and there is a bonus stern followup post by one of the mods.

ETA: Thanks to several folks for pointing out that the wank has continued in mock_the_stupid! Also, Yarinaosu himself now seems to be with us in mouse form, trolling the threads here in otf_wank.




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[info]oxydosic
2006-06-19 01:33 am UTC (link)
Furthermore, "digs" and "finds" in different places do not prove a thing, however, the lack of said finds or the lack of certain patterns can suggest that such a thing cannot happen.

They made my brain hurt. I don't like people who make my brain hurt.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2006-06-19 01:39 am UTC (link)
"Research" is meaningless, as its just a word used by people to not actually target the issue, but instead avoid it.

Goddamn research. Research would only interfere with the essential truthiness of her claims.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-06-19 01:42 am UTC (link)
"Research" is meaningless, as its just a word used by people to not actually target the issue, but instead avoid it.

...

WHAT?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-19 01:44 am UTC (link)
Yarinaosu is a troll idiot that was banned from gothic_lit a while back. (Read: sometime last year, but it's inactive enough that if you go back a couple pages, you'll see it.)

Er, yeah. They have a history of wank.

—hobbit-kicking mouse

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[info]azawakh
2006-06-19 01:45 am UTC (link)
Wow. There's so many things wrong with that list it mocks itself.

I also love it when people present an idea and try to shove the burden of proof off on the dissenters.

This is not an argument on proof.

¿Que?

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[info]zyna_kat
2006-06-19 01:47 am UTC (link)
Man cannot, archaeologically speaking, survive in Africa as primitive.



WHAT????

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pink_lightning
2006-06-19 01:52 am UTC (link)
I am so confused. >.< *goes off to nurse brain with Pokemon*

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[info]seiberwing
2006-06-19 01:56 am UTC (link)
"Before tools, they could only exist off eating foods."

After tools, they existed off eating foods.


Win.

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win! - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-06-19 11:03 am UTC
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dracothelizard
2006-06-19 02:04 am UTC (link)
So, the poster thinks all research is by definition stupid, and that all people who disagree with her are stupid too.

Nice.

Also, is anthropology inherently sexist or is that just the OP? Man did this, man did that, man did such, man did so. Bla, where were all the ladies at?

I blame that little 'feminism in writing' thing on an English Lit teacher who was a bit too overly feminist in her literary analysises.

Also, is it me or she using Wikipedia as a reliable academic source? Because that breaks my little student brain.

"Digs and finds and all of those are "individual" things. The individual find means nothing. Its the collective knowledge of the subject."

And I know fuck all about archaeology and anthropology (all I know about archaeology and anthropology I learned from Stargate! And I will assume that what I learned from that show is completely wrong, since they can't get even get basic linguistics right), but don't individual finds sort of, y'know, CONTRIBUTE to the collective knowledge?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-19 02:07 am UTC (link)
""Research" is meaningless, as its just a word used by people to not actually target the issue, but instead avoid it."

Stephen Colbert crept into my ear the moment I hit that sentence. Pure gold.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-19 02:11 am UTC (link)
http://community.livejournal.com/anthropologist/937440.html?thread=8897504#t8897504

Properly motivated, I could kill an animal without a tool.

Bugs, for example. Those fuckers need to DIE.

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[info]nevadafighter
2006-06-19 02:11 am UTC (link)
Wow. That is a truly fascinating combination of stupidity, stubbornness, lack of reading comprehension, and argumentativeness, with a dash of "lack of interest in having an actual debate" thrown in for flavor.

There could be a paper in this.

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[info]skewed_tartan
2006-06-19 02:20 am UTC (link)
Troll? Or just plain stupid...?

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[info]kijikun
2006-06-19 02:21 am UTC (link)
Ow.

I think he broke my brain.

*cries*

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[info]exdee
2006-06-19 02:31 am UTC (link)
"Research" is meaningless


what the flying fuckity fuck-fuck?


*stabby-stabby*

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[info]an_igor
2006-06-19 02:32 am UTC (link)
I kinda liked how his/her response to 'Which university do you attend, then?' was 'I work for an Archaeologist as an archaeological researcher/assisstant who does research for many of the American Military Bases that need to meet their criteria for the National Registry.' Which seeeeems to indicate 'none,' correct me if I'm wrong.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-06-19 02:34 am UTC (link)
This is proper evidence. Everything I say is either common knowledge or backed up through logical reasoning from common knowledge

Strangely, I was under the impression that it was common knowledge that man sprang up in Africa and spread out from there.

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[info]tiye
2006-06-19 02:40 am UTC (link)
Ooh, there's now a Yarinaosu!wank icon:

http://community.livejournal.com/anthropologist/937476.html?thread=8912644#t8912644

(Scroll down in the thread a bit.)

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[info]isntitironic
2006-06-19 02:41 am UTC (link)
Furthermore, "digs" and "finds" in different places do not prove a thing, however, the lack of said finds or the lack of certain patterns can suggest that such a thing cannot happen.

So... if I'm bending my brain in the proper direction and my Dumbshit/English dictionary is accurate - she's saying that you can't prove a positive, only a negative.

Funny, 'cause that's EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what I was always taught.

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[info]rosalita
2006-06-19 02:52 am UTC (link)
Wait. He/she is an archaeological researcher who thinks research is meaningless.

There are no words for the vast stupidity of this.

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[info]benighted
2006-06-19 02:58 am UTC (link)
I have managed to convince myself that Stephen Colbert is trolling that community.

Don't tell me otherwise. The delusion is much less painful than reality. Not to mention funnier.

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[info]sabinelagrande
2006-06-19 03:07 am UTC (link)
OH GOD, not Yarinaosu. Run far, run fast.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2006-06-19 03:49 am UTC (link)
...mutations are rare?

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[info]aerobot
2006-06-19 04:03 am UTC (link)
The same person who is bitching about a lack of academic discussion thinks that 'research' is a fancy word.


... Don't even know where to BEGIN.

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[info]frequentmouse
2006-06-19 04:32 am UTC (link)
Whatever else is true, Yarinaosu is apparently stealing her standards of proof from Ann Coulter.

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