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Scientology and comics don't mix.
Looking for wank at the CBR forums is pretty much like fishing on a small glass of water. Every day, there's something new. However this particular gem is quite strange as it doesn't involve comics, comic book writers or anything remotely close to them.
It all starts when at the YABS subforum, Elvisguy shares a funny story of how scientologist Jenna Elfman attacked a friend of his for wearing a t-shirt that read 'Scientology is Gay, very Gay', with pictures of Tom Cruise and John Travolta (the story of the attack, as well as the shirt, can be seen here.
While there's a bit of disbelief at first on who cast the first stone -was Elfman 'minding her own business' and was attaked by the other guy, or was it the other way around?- the thread starts pretty much with the usual 'Scientologists are insane' comments, as well as a very short lived argument on how it's offensive to use the word 'gay' as an insult, even when Elvisguy is gay himself.
But it all changes when in page 3, comes Redjack stating: I don't get the hostility towards the Scientologists. The only difference I can make out between them and the other Faiths in existence is that they are newer. It takes all kinds to make a world.
And off they go.
In the following 18 pages and counting, we can find some great nuggets from Redjack, such as:
Scientology hasn't got close to any of the crap pulled by the other big faiths in their heydays. So they have wacky mythology and bizarre rites. So they suck adherents' pockets dry. So they don't believe in aspects of modern medicine. So they try to influence governmental policies in their own favor. So what? Tell me one faith that doesn't hit one or all those buttons. in page 4.
The 'Tom Cruise defense', aka. 'You don't know the history of _____ as I do' I'm saying that the baby, Scientology, AT ITS WORST, doesn't come close to the hideous awful crap that has been enacted by the major Western faiths and not a few of the not-so-major ones. starting in page 6 (he goes on an on about that one a bit)
My personal favorite : There are plenty of faiths with no central "morality." They are just as legit as any other and YOUR definition of what makes a faith doesn't matter one bit. in page 12, that get's even better when people starts asking for examples, and he includes 'Shintoism, Buddhism and Animism' When told by practitioners of the same that's he's full of shit?, well, they don't know their own religions like he does.
Things get a little more complicated when Watsonglenn, famous for other wanks in which he insists that all gay people are perverts and pedophiles, and claims that asking 'what would you do if your (hypotetical) daughter was gay?' is a personal attack, joins in by arguing about the Bible. Curiously, he stays pretty unwanky until page 14, with: You're right, except for one thing. TRUTH. Christianity has it. Scientology does not.
There is a difference between truth and fiction. It is hard to tell the difference sometimes but its there if you try.
Right now they're on page 18 of the discussion, with Watsonglenn arguing about the bible with Redjack, Redjack defending Scientology -while claiming that he's not doing that- and insisting that all religions are insane, everyone else trying to explain why Scientology is not really a religion, a very brief and confusing moment when Neil Gaiman was called a Scientologist and I believe a mention to Nazis somewhere in between (Only that I can't find that comment again).
(Me? I'm waiting for someone to mention either Batwoman or Civil War, being a comic book forum and all. Even if I have no idea of how those two subjects could connect with the Scientology thing)
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