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Serai ([info]serai) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-06-20 21:30:00


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Yay! Blowjob wank!
Over at Salon.com, there's a post delineating the ins and outs of a lovely wank about everybody's favorite indoor sport, Blow Jobs. This is a lively and complex wank, involving several feminist blogs such as I Blame the Patriarchy and Feministe, comment pile-ons, and Politically Correct snarking galore.

Because I am a lazy bugger, and Rebecca Traister has done such a great job of breaking down the wank anyway, I shall simply give you all the link:


Apparently, no living woman in history has ever enjoyed a blow job!


My, my. Isn't it great to be well-informed? And here I thought sex was an enjoyable pastime. It never occured to me that I was being vilely oppressed. I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, Sparky!


ETA: My favorite bit in the Salon comments: The blowee (the "dominant figure") in order to humiliate/oppress/disempower the blower (the "submissive figure") takes his extremely delicate, overstimulated, hypersensitive, icon of manhood and puts it between the teeth of the blower whose jaw can potentially apply up to 200lbs of pressure...it doesn't take a mathmetician, a doctor, philosopher or any other highly degreed person to understand who is truly in the position of power during this particular sex act--the problem is, some blowers just don't know whose boss.

Exactly. It wasn't until I started reading feminist books that it even occured to me that blowjobs could be oppressive, and even then I didn't buy it (for me at least). Blowjobs were fun. Guys got off on them and I liked getting them off. Where's the minus in that equation?



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[info]dez_chan
2006-06-21 05:00 am UTC (link)
Flame me if you will, but I posit nevertheless that no woman, since the dawn of the patriarchal co-option of human sexuality, has ever actually enjoyed this submissive sexbot drudgery.

What.

In.

The.

Fuck?

Her reasoning? I swear to god, "Reason: It’s fucking gross."

So I guess she doesn't let her boyfriend/girlfriend give her oral either then? 'Cause OMGGROSS! *eyeroll*

Psst! Some women (yes, even feminist women!) enjoy giving oral sex. I know it's a newsflash, but some of us don't view every single sexual position or act in terms of how "submissive" it is.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2006-06-21 05:03 am UTC (link)
I can get behind calling myself a Drudging Sexbot.

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[info]jadelennox
2006-06-21 05:46 am UTC (link)
I think there's a generational thing going on in those posts. There's lots of self-identified second wave feminists expressing some serious gratitude to Twisty for helping them cope with ingrained ideas of serving men that their (often essentialist) feminism has been all about reacting to.

Me, I'm third wave. I'm not saying I didn't have to fight notions of putting out as a necessary way to keep my man, but alot of my coming of age was during times and places when feminism was about being able to try everything. Sucking cock? Sure! Pussy? Why not? Asexuality? Maybe, if it works for me. I'm making it sound easier than it was, of course, but it's a different fundamental underlying set of assumptions.

Or, in other words, I forgive many of the wankers over at Twisty's because they did the hard work that enabled me to live in a world when I can fucking love sucking cock and still be a feminist. It's never easy for revolutionaries to live in the world they've made after the revolution. (Or in a later stage of the revolution -- I'm not claiming that the feminists have won, or anything.)

Also, Ginmar's over at Feministe, and not being too wanky, even though men are stating their opinions. Weird.

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Oy - [info]serai, 2006-06-22 07:19 pm UTC
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flightstothesea
2006-06-21 05:50 am UTC (link)
Dammit, people need to not use "Sparky" as a general address; I always have that brief second where I think they're talking to me.

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[info]chaos_theory
2006-06-21 07:18 am UTC (link)
I really wish people would stop telling me how to be a good feminist. For some reason I like sex a whole lot, and yet, surprisingly, still think women should like vote and shit. Maybe that means I am really a gay man trapped underneath these really fabulous breasts.

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[info]slavekitty
2006-06-21 08:33 am UTC (link)
This is a little of why I was glad to get out of college. Not everything needs historical analysis, darn it, and I don't care if I'm interrogating the cock from the wrong perspective. I'm gonna go look at bondage porn and not care about who's holding the whip.

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[info]adora_spintriae
2006-06-21 11:43 am UTC (link)
Stopmakingmysidelookstupidstopmakingmysidelookstupidstopmakingmysidelookstupid....

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[info]oxydosic
2006-06-21 01:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh come on! Everyone knows in that situation the guy or gal doing the blowjob is the one in charge! Let's face it, the guy has to either be really trusting or really stupid to stick his dong into an orifice full of things that could sever it. Or just, you know, horny.

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[info]ayezur
2006-06-21 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Any sexual act can be made into a degrading and dehumanizing thing. It all depends on how the participants approach it.

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[info]freezer
2006-06-21 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Um... If fellatio is all evil and oppressive and full of Gorian subtext... what does that make cunnilingus? I like giving it. A lot. Does that make me oppressed by the matriarchy and secretly wishing for a vagina?

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[info]frau_eva
2006-06-21 03:28 pm UTC (link)
I understand where she's coming from a media perspective. Its pretty obvious in porn and media in general that blowjobs are seen as this submissive thing that women do and OMG love it just so they can get off every man in the vicinity because they're giant sluts. Even though you've got a man's sensitive parts between your teeth, society views that as a submissive act. Makes not a goddamn bit of sense, but patriarchy never did.

What I don't like is this presumption that this patriarchal view has tainted the act for everyone in the whole world and you can't have a healthy relationship involving blowjobs. Because calling all women who like doing it assumes that. So there can't be a supportive relationship where people like pleasing each other equally? Man, I thought that's what love was. Silly me.

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[info]sabinelagrande
2006-06-21 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Dammit, otf_wank, can we have this discussion when I'm actually getting some?

I like blowjobs, cause guys make such fun noises. Happy little sighs are not the sounds of oppression. /tmi

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[info]symbeline
2006-06-21 05:06 pm UTC (link)
How sad that these women can't appreciate the most vulnerable position their guy will ever be in. It's really wonderful for those of us who can.

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[info]chibicurmudgeon
2006-06-21 05:38 pm UTC (link)
takes his extremely delicate, overstimulated, hypersensitive, icon of manhood and puts it between the teeth of the blower whose jaw can potentially apply up to 200lbs of pressure

Yup. I always tell guys: you choke, I bite. Keeps 'em still as a statue. ^___^

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2006-06-21 06:10 pm UTC

[info]rosehiptea
2006-06-21 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who ever actually knew a guy who didn't want a blowjob at all for exactly that reason? Because I did.

Me: How do you feel about oral sex?
Him: Teeeeeeeeeeeeth Noooooo....

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(no subject) - [info]fourth_impact, 2006-06-22 05:16 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-21 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Venturing into very slight TMI . . . if part of your personal policy is you're not going to give them a blowjob unless they're willing to go down on you, are you still being oppressed?

Because I thought feminism was supposed to be about equality, and that seems pretty equal to me . . .

—hobbit-kicking mouse

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-21 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I like how she basicaly says at the end 'Violence (ie the ability to bit it off) =Sexual power', its juat a shame more women dont use it.
Im obviously paraphraiseing, so please feel free to let me no if i have missed the point.

My backup point is that I think i am a bad/oppressive person 'cause of my wang.
Bad wang!
stop oppressing women!
you must be punished!
*cuts wang off*

Mako_eyed_boy @ BJ LJ

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Round two!
[info]dez_chan
2006-06-21 08:05 pm UTC (link)
From the follow up comments.

Catherine Martell Jun 16th, 2006 at 11:27 am

Marvellous stuff.

But NB, cocksuckers/suckees: Twisty’s original, splendid shitstir asserted not that women *shouldn’t* give blowjobs, but that women didn’t *enjoy* giving them.


Yes, I understood that. And it's bullshit, still. Some women enjoy giving head. Some women even enjoy anal. Some women enjoy dressing up as a foxgirl and getting buggered by an anthropomorphic wolf-thing. The fact that I don't enjoy some of these things isn't reason enough for me to go out and assert that NO WOMAN EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD has EVER enjoyed those things. Duh.

Many of us therefore find it possible to hold two thoughts in our pretty little heads at once:

(a) that kneeling before a man and sucking his cock is uncomfortable, bruises your knees, stimulates your gag reflex, sometimes ends in you having to swallow some nasty salty goop, and is inherently an act of submission and debasement; and

(b) that we might do it anyway if we want to and we like the man.


You DO know there's other ways to give head, right? And if it takes him so long to climax that you have BRUISES...he might want to go to the doctor. Or you're really bad at it.

Feel free to continue fellating the patriarchy. But please lay off all the tedious arguments about ‘But I get off on the control’/'But it pleasures me to please him’/'But I find the penis so devastatingly attractive an organ that I simply cannot control my urge to put it in my mouth’/'But my throat is full of tiny clitorises’/etc. You sound like brainwashed sexbots.

And YOU sound like an oppressive wanker fit to give Queen Victoria hives. At least these "tedious arguments" are more fun than postulations about how exactly oral sex = OPPRESSION.

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Re: Round two! - (Anonymous), 2006-06-21 09:03 pm UTC
Re: Round two! - [info]dez_chan, 2006-06-21 09:43 pm UTC
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Re: Round two! - [info]loonylupinlover, 2006-06-22 06:22 am UTC
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Re: Round two! - (Anonymous), 2006-07-12 11:34 pm UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2006-06-21 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Isn't it the norm among straight people to trade blowjobs? If no women enjoy sucking cock, then isn't it reasonable to say no men enjoy eating pussy, and therefore there is no oppression or whatever she's bitching about?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-06-21 10:13 pm UTC
Posting twice in a row is fun.
iwanttobeasleep
2006-06-21 10:22 pm UTC (link)
But what are their thoughts on yuri?

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Re: Posting twice in a row is fun. - (Anonymous), 2006-06-21 11:02 pm UTC

[info]kyuuketsukirui
2006-06-21 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Man, I couldn't even read the links. A couple paragraphs in made me want to go kill people. I don't think there's anyone on the planet I hate more than crazy feminists. You just can't win with them. If you disagree, you're just brainwashed by the patriarchy.

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[info]photosinensis
2006-06-21 11:31 pm UTC (link)
I once had a girlfriend (shock! amazement!) that absolutely insisted that she be allowed to fellate me. Let's just say that it wasn't all that exciting--I just wanted to go back to my computer and hack away on my network skills. Of course, she wasn't that good, as she'd never done that kind of thing before, and honestly, I wasn't really able to teach her. Thus, I just pulled her off of me and asked her to stop.

Yes, I just admitted publically to having more sexual experience than I usually claim.

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Time for another disturbing story
[info]joie
2006-06-22 12:38 am UTC (link)
In collage (gasp) I was in a play. Two people hooked up and started snogging everywhere. He asked her for a bj. She promply went down and kissed his member and blew on it. She then asked if she did it well. He got dressed and broke up with her. He told everyone involved in the play.
Mean huh? Last I heard she now is into girls.

I guess it really does opress women...or not :)

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Re: Time for another disturbing story - [info]chibicurmudgeon, 2006-06-24 10:57 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-22 01:23 am UTC (link)
I can't be the only one who's heard of erotic feminism, have I?

yay Marlene Dietrich

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[info]mistal
2006-06-22 01:34 am UTC (link)
It's funny yesterday I had a great laugh at an extreme feminist...There was the school election going on and someone pretended to be the communist party and well one of the girl was being a table. So she was kneeling down in front of a guy and was being a table. Then the other girl (that was watching) freaked out. Start saying the girl was being submissive, that she was lower than the guy and etc about how degrading it was for the girl. Sadly it didn't go through her head, that the girl was being a table, not a woman kneeling, a freaking table!
though everyone was going 'buh? are you on crack, she was a table...' /personalstory

Now for this one, cant say much about bj, but I(woman) do like giving my gf oral...

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