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	skewed_tartan 2006-07-26 08:17 pm UTC (link)
	What is a "pup" as used here? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	flightstothesea 2006-07-26 08:20 pm UTC (link)
	Short for "puppet" = your character. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	skewed_tartan 2006-07-26 08:26 pm UTC (link)
	Funny I've been in RPing for maybe five years and I never heard that term, Maybe its new...or they don't use it in Superhero RP circles. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	flightstothesea 2006-07-26 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	I've found it depends on where you RP as to how much it's used. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mindset 2006-07-26 08:21 pm UTC (link)
	Short for sockpuppet, definition #2. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sharps 2006-07-26 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	Major icon love. Oh yes, I love Lady Oscar. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	isntitironic 2006-07-26 09:05 pm UTC (link)
	I've never seen Snow White and Sleeping Beauty on Jerry Springer, but I once got them into a catfight in a game of the Sims. (Reply to this)

starkers
2006-07-26 09:19 pm UTC (link)

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that in the end, zenostortoise comes off looking better in this argument. In my opinion, anyway. And I don't even agree with her, necessarily, in regards to this rant. I just respect that she kept her cool and dignity while all these people went off on her with swearing and namecalling and patronizing with "honeycakes" and headpats and what have you. That shit is so ridiculous.

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	honorh 2006-07-26 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	May be so, but she loses major points in my eyes for missing the point so stubbornly. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	starkers 2006-07-26 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	Good point. Mayhaps I am blinded for my hatred of condescending pet names ;D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ruby_tuesday 2006-07-26 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	Personally, I think everyone comes off looking bad. Yeah, zenostortoise kept her cool and didn't namecall, which is admirable, but... THE POINT OF THE ORIGINAL RANT Zenostortoise's head. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	seiberwing 2006-07-26 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	I think what might have happened is that she didn't know this was Sages or didn't understand exactly what Sages was. It's not your average small RPG group where everyone knows about everyone else and the mods can watch every bit of potential conflict. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	starkers 2006-07-26 11:10 pm UTC (link)
	I'll admit, that threw me for a loop at first until it was stated that it was Sages. Generally I play in smaller games, so I didn't understand how players could hope to be that distanced from each other. Makes sense, though, considering the size of the game. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	seiberwing 2006-07-26 11:16 pm UTC (link)
	The immense number of people involved + the ever-growing number of characters being created = the fact that you could play for a year with a dozen characters and not interact with half of the actual players. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2006-07-26 11:17 pm UTC (link)
	That's the feel I got when I saw that reply to the post before it showed up here. Hell, I remember what it was like trying to understand Sages at first. It's hard to understand if all you're used to is places with low player to mod ratios. -EmpyrealDragon (Reply to this)(Parent)

	iczer6 2006-07-27 12:10 am UTC (link)
	The thing is that kept missing the point after several people explained it to her. It's not that hard to understand what's going on and I don't think you have to understand the intricacies of places like SoC and DM to understand the situation. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	loony666 2006-07-27 05:52 am UTC (link)
	What is Sages? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2006-07-27 05:59 am UTC (link)
	http://www.nexuslol.net/Sages-of-chaos (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2006-07-27 12:42 am UTC (link)

I understand why Aurora is upset, honestly. However, I'm convinced there was no malicious intent by Snow.

It took me most of the post to figure out who was who, and Snow (from what I've seen on the RP) sticks to threads involving the people she regularly RPs with. Since Snow RPs with Cinderella a lot, they both probably lost track of which thread it was in.

Snow's character can be cruel and manipulative at times (which is in character,) but at other times is more playful or reflective.

I think there was an apology thread at the RP site, last I checked.

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	(Anonymous) 2006-07-27 01:02 am UTC (link)
	My bad, it was in a link from a Cinderella post. Anyway, the Original post has now been modified. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2006-07-27 01:07 am UTC (link)
	The OP said she'd repost the content of the post if people wanted it back. Kinda wanky to do it IMHO, but then again it looks like she might have been trying to stop any further complaints against this "Snow" person without outright deleting the whole post off the Internet. shrug Shit happens, lol Intarweb. - trainwrecked mousie (Reply to this)(Parent)

	herongale 2006-07-27 03:22 am UTC (link)
	What? zannechaos jumps to the hasty defense of a friend before getting all the facts straight, and then deletes the content of her rant when it turns out she was dead, dead wrong? Impossible! Impossible, I say! (Reply to this)(Thread)

unoriginality
2006-07-27 04:59 am UTC (link)

Zanne took to the defense of a friend based on what she was given, which was my fault. I took sole responsiblity for the entire mess, and I've already talked to the other muns involved and apologized and sorted things out as much as they can be right now. She apologized for jumping to conclusions, as have I. You can stop making it look like it was 100% her fault now, thank you.

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	herongale 2006-07-27 06:09 am UTC (link)
	Oh, no no. If it makes you feel any better, I'm sure it is at least 50% your fault. patspats You're welcome. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sepiamagpie 2006-07-27 12:29 pm UTC (link)
	Lulz, I say. Lulz. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	herongale 2006-07-27 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	What are these lulz of which you speak? Sorry, stained my dress a lil there, couldn't quite catch it. D: (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sepiamagpie 2006-07-27 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	The lulz are coming from inside the house. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	guilty_as_sin 2006-07-27 12:14 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, and it was a lovely apology zannechaos put up in place of her original rant. Very sincere. At least, once I understood what her edit actually said. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jat_sapphire 2006-07-27 12:25 pm UTC (link)
	It wasn't easy to read, was it? She needs to edit her edit, I think. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	aerobot 2006-07-27 12:03 pm UTC (link)
	If I were the player in question, judging from what's been posted here, I'd feel like the other person was sucking some of the fun out of the game for me. "You big fat meanie head, you're ruining all my fuuuuuuun! You hafta play what I want or go home!" (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2006-07-29 02:12 am UTC (link)
	Man, why oh why do I keep reading "bad_rpers_suck" as bad_rapers_suck? Balla the mouse (Reply to this)

	panthea 2006-07-29 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	...whoa. Call me slow, but I just figured out that Snow is actually a good friend of mine. Echoing what's already been said: there is no. fucking. way. she'd hurt someone like that on purpose. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	guilty_as_sin 2006-07-30 02:23 am UTC (link)
	Word. (Reply to this)(Parent)