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Velouria ([info]number13baby) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-09-05 13:25:00


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More Steve Irwin wank: Ginmar is not sorry
Well, it had to happen. Ginmar weighs in on Steve Irwin's death. And again, a few minutes later. Discussion, disagreement, and trolling ensue, along with yet another demonstration of ginmar's mad debate skillz. Mainly, I'm impressed by her ability to deconstruct any situation to make it into an example of patriarchy in action.



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[info]gloria_mundi
2006-09-05 07:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm in there.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-09-05 08:02 pm UTC (link)
She might have a point about how the media treats men v.s. women in dangerous careers, but channeling it towards a recently deceased man isn't the answer. Point the anger at the media or the culture that allows for such attitudes to occur.

As for Steve Irwin? He wasn't perfect. He wasn't the best. He fucked up sometimes, like any other person. But I'm tired of seeing him pigeon-holed for so many issues when he's just one person. He died. It's a shame. He did his best to contribute to the world as best he could and he did it passionately. From what I've seen of him (and my family used to watch this show religiously), he involved his family in his living not because he wanted to put them in danger, but because he wanted them to experience the kind of passion and invigoration *he* felt living on the edge. Alot of people may criticize that as negligent or dangerous, and they may have good points, but I can't help but envy what his children have seen and experienced in their young lives that most people don't feel for most of their adulthood. He paid the price, so let's forgive him for being human and drop it.

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(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-09-06 02:03 am UTC
*dies laughing* - [info]singe, 2006-09-06 02:13 am UTC
Re: *dies laughing* - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-09-06 02:36 am UTC
... - [info]singe, 2006-09-06 02:43 am UTC
... - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-09-06 02:58 am UTC
... - [info]singe, 2006-09-06 03:07 am UTC

[info]vigilanterodent
2006-09-05 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Ginmar. Don't ever change - because if you did, who would we laugh at?

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[info]sorchar
2006-09-05 08:16 pm UTC (link)
Does she NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP??

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[info]atalantapendrag
2006-09-05 08:16 pm UTC (link)
Gah, if Ginmar is the true face of feminism, I'll be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-09-05 08:33 pm UTC (link)
Because if you don't gloat over Steve Irwin's death the patriarchy wins.

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[info]ehann
2006-09-05 08:35 pm UTC (link)
God. My stomach ulcer resolved so quickly after I stopped reading her blog.

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[info]freezer
2006-09-05 08:45 pm UTC (link)
So here I am thinking that that Irwin actually DID get raked over the coals pretty good for the baby dangling stunt and that Brit-Brit's car seat stunt was seen less as "BAD MOMMY" and more as proof of her K-Fed-fueled downward spiral.

Of course, I don't see the world through "FEMINIST RAGE! RAHR!" colored glasses, so I could be wrong...

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[info]ayezur
2006-09-05 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Did Steve Irwin support his family?

That might be the most asinine question I have ever been unfortunate enough to hear. He has a fuckin' zoo, and he's a television celebrity. He did conservation work; it's not like he was using his paycheck to go out and buy booze and hookers, then coming home and deamding to know where his dinner is.

I am not privy to the Irwin family finances, but it's entirely possible that Mum was athe breadwinner. In which case she's probably fine with being the breadwinner and letting hubby get on with his important work.

If a woman was being supported by her husband because she was spending all her time, energy, and money on political activism, would she still be complaining?

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[info]nekoama
2006-09-05 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Ginmar makes me want to go rape a dude. And then finally solve the question of wether or not she'd give me praise for the deed.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-05 08:59 pm UTC (link)
Oh, when someone brings up a good point? Just call them a bunch of names and don't respond to their point.

I'd pay a fair amount of money to slap her just once. ~jdr

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[info]phosfate
2006-09-05 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Have you ever been raped by a stingray on a mass grave?

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[info]april_hurst
2006-09-05 09:03 pm UTC (link)
Where's his family now, huh? Who's going to support them---and not just financially?

I'm confused. Is she saying that his wife NEEDS his support and can't get along without a man? That seems a little odd, coming from Ginmar. This is the 21st century. Deaths are sad and tragic, but I think Irwin's family can survive without him.

"Boys will be boys, right? If a mother did that, she'd get crucified."

Oh, no, there are NEVER any mothers who endanger or even kill their kids and get away with it. Ever.

o___o

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[info]billymasqets
2006-09-05 09:06 pm UTC (link)
You know, I like fire-breathingly passionate and angry feminists. Really, my heart flutters every time I see one tear through the patriarchy like Godzilla through Tokyo. It's glorious.

But ginmar... it's like she's only into the whole feminist thing so that she can yell at and insult people. Ew.

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[info]hickorydickory
2006-09-05 09:07 pm UTC (link)
You know, I somehow get the eerie impression that there would be less wank about this if Irwin had left his wife and kid and ran off with someone half his age. But no, he had to go and die on them! Selfish bastard!

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[info]oxydosic
2006-09-05 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Does Ginmar ever shut up, ever? And why does she have to pick on poor Steve?

*Goes to cry some more*

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2006-09-05 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Can we please hire a stingray to go after her, next?

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[info]deadgayrobin
2006-09-05 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Oh Mijan gets a big fat word. Ginmar, why won't you shut up? I'm going to go read porn now, it's better for my digestion.

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sharonapple
2006-09-05 09:14 pm UTC (link)
I think only elephant tranquilizers could stop that woman from raging all over the place.

That said, bad form Ginmar, bad form. It's not like he died on purpose to screw over the women of the world, let alone his wife and kids.

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[info]freezer
2006-09-05 09:21 pm UTC (link)
I am having to bite down hard on the urge to go in there with a "BITCH PLEASE" stick in each hand. This exchange with mijan was particularly enraging. It's like any point that might put a dent in her "DOWN WITH TEH PATRIARCY!!!1!" world view is met with "That's nice, dear."

You know what, Ginmar? Fuck you and the broom you rode in on.

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Re: Having read her entries in more depth... - sharonapple, 2006-09-05 10:37 pm UTC
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[info]darkvalkyrie
2006-09-05 09:27 pm UTC (link)
It's amazing how often the phrase "please go die in a fire" comes to mind every time she opens her e-mouth.

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[info]rolling_my_eyes
2006-09-05 09:38 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I've ever loathed a person I don't know as much as I absolutely detest ginmar. With every fiber of my being. And the fibers of everyone else's being. Also, I'm sometimes stunned by just how many people AGREE with her.

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[info]hallidae
2006-09-05 09:42 pm UTC (link)
::twitch:: Aaaand, Ginmar continues to fuel my rage against a sub-group of my gender. I swear, she has to be a closet mysoginist or something, the way some of her shrieking rants go.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-05 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Ginmar remains one of the most sexist jerks I've ever come across, if not the most.

--ljuser peaseblossom03

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-05 10:27 pm UTC (link)
It's not like Terri was barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. What, so he's an awful father for leaving behind his kids all irresponsible-like, but she's an awful mother because she's not actually without means and is fully able to live and raise their kids comfortably (at least financially)? What is Ginmar even mad at this time?

. . . down with the stingrayarchy!

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