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Josephine ([info]muffinbutt) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-09-07 20:46:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*

Politiwank on Pajiba
I thought about posting this on f_w, but decided that it was more that people were wanking about politics and it just happened to be on a movie review site, rather than a fannish phenomenon.

So! Pajiba is a movie review site which specializes in brief but brilliant takes on current releases. There is a comment section after each review, and while most discussions in the comments are fairly benign, Jeremy Fox's review of The Wicker Man garners a really strange wankfest.



Matt starts the ball rolling with this comment:

And aside from women, its also a-ok to take cheap shots at the suburban middle class without true fear of reprisal(American Beauty, The Quiet, Little Miss Sunshine, Donnie Darko), Republicans (The Day After Tomorrow, Ice Age 2-this own website seems to verify this), and Christianity (that God-awful adaptation of Silent Hill). Did I miss anything? Probably.


Vi replies:

Ok, yeah. Despite the fact that, as groups, they have the most power and voice in the country, Christians, Republicans, and suburban dwellers are sometimes portrayed as (gasp!) the bad guys. But the mild cultural disrespect those groups sometimes get is one thing; the real problems women deal with (and anticipate) every day are a whole different story. Can you really say that Christians, Republicans, and suburbanites face the same vilification, threats of violence, and life-altering discrimination that women, gays, and minorities face?

I call bullshit.


And it's on! Various other posters begin to chime in with their opinions, and it gets increasingly heated. Nazis are invoked. Good times. A few gems:

Oh GAWD. If I hear another Christian complain about how persecuted they are in this country, I'm gonna crucify myself. Seriously, are you nuts? Please stop expecting the rest of us to overindulge your fairy-tale fantasies.

And yeah, as a white guy, I'm sure you're sooooo friggin' persecuted...


Ah, the white christian male, so persecuted, so segregated, forced to live in rich ghettos forever forced to enjoy 95% of all the wealth generated in this country, oh, poor poor white guys.
Cry me a fucking river Adolf.


Charlotte, I recommend a silicon-based lubricant to help scrub the sand out of your vagina. It doesn't dilute in the bathtub the way the water-based stuff does.


I guess if the facts don't jive with your own biases, you own't consider it and will dig up whatever to make a comeback. This makes you a presumptuous twat. Seriously, do I have to break out puppets to explain this to you?


And my favorite wtf non sequitur:

I agree, but let's not forget about Italian-Americans. It's apparently also perfectly OK to demonize us.


It goes on and on. I'll say it again: Good times.


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[info]doomsday
2006-09-08 01:45 am UTC (link)
Having spent $9.50 to see The Wicker Man last Friday, I totally understand how it could piss people off enough to get this wanky. I, however, chose to give up on taking it seriously somewhere near the middle and instead laughed my ass off through the end. "YOU BITCHES!"

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[info]pyratejenni
2006-09-08 02:25 am UTC (link)
Have you seen the original?

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2006-09-08 05:13 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2006-09-08 02:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aislyn, 2006-09-08 06:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-09-08 06:46 pm UTC

[info]ladyrogue
2006-09-08 02:39 am UTC (link)
Well... that tells me I won't be seeing it.

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2006-09-08 05:14 am UTC

[info]squib
2006-09-08 01:48 am UTC (link)
Because the "Christians, Republicans, and suburbanites" Venn-diagram circle never, ever overlaps with the "women, gays, and minorities" Venn-diagram circle.

(Poor [info]political_wank. Never gets any attention anymore. *emo tear*)

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[info]muffinbutt
2006-09-08 02:08 am UTC (link)
Sorry! I thought it kind of applied to both, but didn't want to crosspost.

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[info]warrioreowyn
2006-09-08 02:26 am UTC (link)
Excellent point. As a Christian suburban woman, I'm confused - am I oppressed or not?

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(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2006-09-08 02:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brown_betty, 2006-09-08 05:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2006-09-10 02:09 am UTC

[info]ladyrogue
2006-09-08 02:38 am UTC (link)
It's apparently like crossing the streams.

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(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2006-09-08 02:53 am UTC
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[info]slavekitty
2006-09-08 03:02 am UTC (link)
That's because we don't exist for longer than a few seconds. Apparently the inherent instability of such a union makes us spontaneously explode.

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[info]itsirtou
2006-09-08 04:12 am UTC (link)
GIP!

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[info]selene_avis
2006-09-09 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I prefer not to think about the existence of gay Republicans.

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(no subject) - [info]squib, 2006-09-09 11:14 pm UTC
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[info]gal_montag
2006-09-08 02:48 am UTC (link)
You know what I want to see? A movie about Native Americans that doesn't involve Kevin Costner, noble savagery or code talking. Randomly.

And then I'd like it if white males would wake the fuck up and realize that just because you live in El Paso with a majority Minority doesn't mean you're opressed. It just means that you have a better excuse for your whining than just being a big, dirty douchebag.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-09-08 04:01 am UTC (link)
You know what I want to see? A movie about Native Americans that doesn't involve Kevin Costner, noble savagery or code talking. Randomly.

Can we add to that list keeping Colin Farrel as far as fuck away from the movie as possible? (Or just filmmaking in general, whatever's easier.)

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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 04:08 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2006-09-08 09:47 pm UTC
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[info]cadesama
2006-09-08 05:39 am UTC (link)
You know what I want to see? A movie about Native Americans that doesn't involve Kevin Costner, noble savagery or code talking. Randomly.

I had some hope when I saw they were making Skinwalkers. Except, no, it's not based off the Tony Hillerman book. It's not even about skinwalkers. It's about werewolves. Which, okay, are sort of related, but as a Southwest raised girl it's criminal to make a movie about skinwalkers without a single Navajo in sight. Way to ruin the campfire stories of my childhood, guys.

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-09-08 01:21 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]cadesama, 2006-09-08 10:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-08 04:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cadesama, 2006-09-08 10:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bangoskank, 2006-09-08 05:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cadesama, 2006-09-08 10:32 pm UTC

[info]innsmouth_eyes
2006-09-08 09:27 am UTC (link)
Have you seen Smoke Signals?

"The only thing more pathetic than Indians on TV is Indians watching Indians on TV."

:D

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[info]phosfate
2006-09-08 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Wolfen?

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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 06:26 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 06:34 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 06:31 pm UTC
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[info]gal_montag
2006-09-08 02:52 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah, PS, Lilith Fair? Women can thrash. Women can drop mad flows. How come those women don't get to perform at Lilith? Not enough granola in their burkenstocks?

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-09-08 01:22 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2006-09-08 07:48 pm UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2006-09-08 03:59 am UTC (link)
4. Charlotte, I recommend a silicon-based lubricant to help scrub the sand out of your vagina. It doesn't dilute in the bathtub the way the water-based stuff does.

Right, because the best way to prove you aren't being sexist is to use a female poster's gender as a vulgarity in order to undermine and underwhelm her point.

Jackass.

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[info]khym_chanur
2006-09-08 04:37 am UTC (link)
The original movie sounds like it's made of cheesy goodness. I'll have to give it a try sometime.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-08 01:29 pm UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-14 01:06 pm UTC

[info]squib
2006-09-08 05:29 am UTC (link)
Random squick semi-related to this wank: people who wish they could live in the original movie's Summerisle bother me. "But it's such cool, joyous paganism! Except for the human sacrifice bit, but so cool!" Erm...

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(no subject) - notmonkey, 2006-09-08 09:35 pm UTC

[info]notjo
2006-09-08 06:32 am UTC (link)
Did I miss something when I saw Donnie Darko? I don't remember it being a slam at the suburban middle-class. I remember the big scary rabbit.

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(no subject) - [info]mochibuni, 2006-09-08 06:48 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-08 06:30 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-09-08 09:06 am UTC (link)
"At least half of all spousal abuse cases are by women against men"

Er... I don't think a 1:1 ratio really proves your point.

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(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2006-09-09 08:49 pm UTC

[info]aerobot
2006-09-08 12:41 pm UTC (link)
P.S: I am white and am from El Paso Tx, which is 95% hispanic. You are preaching to the fucking choir about persecution.

Being a racial minority in one city =/= persecution. Unless people give you wary looks in the street after dark, or whisper about 'those people', or you get refused job after job to a hispanic person, THOU ART NOT PERSECUTED.

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(no subject) - [info]jetamors, 2006-09-08 02:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-09-08 06:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jetamors, 2006-09-08 07:26 pm UTC
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[info]mcity
2006-09-09 01:31 am UTC (link)
And aside from women, its also a-ok to take cheap shots at the suburban middle class without true fear of reprisal(American Beauty, The Quiet, Little Miss Sunshine, Donnie Darko), Republicans (The Day After Tomorrow, Ice Age 2-this own website seems to verify this), and Christianity (that God-awful adaptation of Silent Hill). Did I miss anything? Probably.
He forgot Bush. Don't forget Bush.
Ah, the white christian male, so persecuted, so segregated, forced to live in rich ghettos forever forced to enjoy 95% of all the wealth generated in this country, oh, poor poor white guys.
Cry me a fucking river Adolf.
1. Where is he pulling this statistic from?
2. Why is it that the second a white boy complains about white boys being stereotyped, he's assumed to be rich and privileged, and therefore wrong?

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(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2006-09-10 01:52 am UTC
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[info]big_bad_wolf
2006-09-09 01:52 pm UTC (link)
Has anyone mentioned that the shots being taken at the white suburban middle class are being taken BY the white suburban middle class?

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[info]visp
2006-09-10 01:40 am UTC (link)
it’s only scary if you were frightened by a vagina as a child.

*snicker*

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