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They're Fighting! With Meat! ([info]meatfight) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-09-15 18:56:00


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Feminist wank.
Bloggers pose for a picture with Bill Clinton. Comments get going here, starting with "Let's just array these bloggers... randomly." The bait is picked up by Goesh, who says, "Who is the Intern directly in front of him with the black hair?"

As it turns out, the "intern" (har de har har) is Jessica from Feministing, and she is none too happy.

She says:

You know, I was psyched to be invited to this lunch and was feeling pretty honored. But then things like this remind me that no matter what I do or accomplish, because I'm a young woman all I'm good for is fodder for tacky intern jokes and comments that I don't "represent feminist values" because of the way I posed in a picture.

Meanwhile, Ann Althouse, who threw out the "'random' arrangement" idea, has this to add (I really don't know which post was made first, hers or Jessica's):

Sooooo... apparently, Jessica writes one of those blogs that are all about using breasts for extra attention. Then, when she goes to meet Clinton, she wears a tight knit top that draws attention to her breasts and stands right in front of him and positions herself to make her breasts as obvious as possible?

The wank is on in the comments (incidently, if you only want to click one link, pick this one, because it seems to explain the whole thing pretty well).

I may be missing some stuff here, because I have no history with nor knowledge of either of them. If I should add something, let me know.



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[info]sarracenia
2006-09-16 01:26 am UTC (link)
Damn. According to Ann Althouse, I'm pretty sure I'm a complete whore in my photos. I *gasp* reveal cleavage. Although I have no idea how the hell I'm supposed to pose to make my breasts more obvious. Also,

From a Darwinian perspective, Femisnisting was simply featuring what she perceives to be natural advantages. Sexual display for a powerful male is quite common in Washigton, by that I mean the animal kingdom. And the old lech, I mean President Clinton, is obviously enjoying the show.

What the hell.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-16 04:34 pm UTC

[info]kadath
2006-09-16 01:30 am UTC (link)
Check out Feministe for some reactions.

For the record, Althouse's post came first. Jessica is one of the names in feminist blogging, and (full disclosure) I'm fully on her side on this one. Althouse is being an inexcusable asshole.

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(no subject) - [info]meatfight, 2006-09-16 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-09-16 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-16 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2006-09-16 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]meatfight, 2006-09-16 01:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2006-09-16 01:55 am UTC

[info]frequentmouse
2006-09-16 02:03 am UTC (link)
The comments about "cleavage" and "pajama tops" are just totally WTF- worthy. She's wearing a decent, high-necked, cap sleeved summer blouse, which would be considered modest anywhere not requiring a burkah; if anyone in that photo is wearing sexy clothing, it's the blonde in the black-and-white dress, and she's standing sothat she's pretty much hidden, from both President Clinton and the camera.

And they're not arranged at random: as is common in these kinds of shots, the shortest people are in front of the celebrity.

Ann whosis is a jealous old biddy disguised as a celebrity. And whoever is bitching and moaning aboyt mentioning Ann Richards and not Orriana Fallaci, well, Fallaci has been irrelevant for a long time, since she lost her mind and decided that she was an athiest, but the God she didn't believe in was the one who kept His see in Rome.

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[info]entelodont
2006-09-16 02:05 am UTC (link)
I personally am most concerned for those three fellows in the back left of the picture who are various levels of obscured. The old "tall, but not tall enough" syndrome. I feel your pain, guys.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2006-09-16 02:49 am UTC

[info]iwanttobeasleep
2006-09-16 02:14 am UTC (link)
What? Dude, she's not standing to emphasize her breasts, *everyone* is standing sideways, and that's because if you don't you can't fit everyone. These people are a font of stupid.

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[info]hallidae
2006-09-16 02:18 am UTC (link)
Jesus, I want to smack half the comments in Althouse's bitchwank-fest. If a girl wearing a summer blouse and slacks is considered immodest and fishing for sexual compliments (just because she happens to actually have boobs), fuck, I better whip out the sackcloth.

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(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2006-09-16 02:38 am UTC

[info]semirecluse
2006-09-16 02:20 am UTC (link)
By today's standards that top is very modest indeed.

She's cute, too.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-09-16 02:30 am UTC (link)
she wears a tight knit top that draws attention to her breasts and stands right in front of him and positions herself to make her breasts as obvious as possible?

*blink* What should she do? Wear a burka? And WTF is up with this catty bitchcaking? That's some high school shit right there.

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-09-16 02:47 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-09-16 04:33 am UTC

[info]blackjackrocket
2006-09-16 02:33 am UTC (link)
How does calling her an intern equal "not representing feminist values"?

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-09-16 02:36 am UTC
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[info]delcj
2006-09-16 02:37 am UTC (link)
clearly it's ALL Jessica's fault that Goesh referred to her as an "intern". as a pretty young woman with "black" hair (it looks more like dark brown to me, really) and perky breasts she should have KNOWN that stupid intern jokes would be inevitable if she got too close to Clinton, and therefore she should've made every attempt to position herself as far away as possible from him. no one would have said anything if it were the lady in the twinset who stood directly in front of Clinton. [/snark]

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[info]redcoast
2006-09-16 02:39 am UTC (link)
Why are they wanking about this person -





When they should be wanking about these people -



-doomed to be forever known as "partially obscured."

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(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-09-16 09:55 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2006-09-16 02:40 am UTC (link)
My first thought when I saw the picture?

Mmmmm. Clinton's still got it going on.

Does that make me a bad feminist?

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-09-16 02:42 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]majorburns, 2006-09-16 08:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2006-09-16 01:17 pm UTC
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[info]tangentialone
2006-09-16 02:41 am UTC (link)
Funny, I don't see where she blogs about "using breasts for extra attention". Maybe Althouse means the post about the breast cancer survivor getting "extra attention" from airport security because of her fake breast?

Nice.

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OT!
(Anonymous)
2006-09-16 03:06 am UTC (link)
I'm really liking Althouse's photos, linked to from her blog. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/althouse/) Nice. Peaceful.

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-09-16 03:40 am UTC (link)
she wears a tight knit top that draws attention to her breasts

That's hardly tight. I must dress like a three-dollar hooker if that's tight.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-09-16 03:51 am UTC (link)
So merely dressing to flatter my body is now considered overtly sexual? I'm glad that men continue to dictate the status of feminine apparel in this day and age. Surely, I would be lost without it.

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(no subject) - [info]chrome327, 2006-09-16 07:56 pm UTC

[info]honorh
2006-09-16 04:32 am UTC (link)
From that Ann woman's comments, I was really expecting a Jessica Simpson pose and an ultra-tight top. Instead, the girl's standing normally and is dressed rather conservatively. I'm kind of disappointed.

OTOH, I don't think Ann What's-her-nose could find anything wrong with my professional wardrobe (see icon), so at least I'm in the clear.

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-09-16 04:47 am UTC
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[info]aerobot
2006-09-16 04:54 am UTC (link)
WTF? Having an amusingly snarky banner with those silluoettes and showing a picture of a t-shirt product equals 'OMG BREASTBLOG BOOBS EVERYWHERE!!!11!!'?

Geez, this so called feminist has real issues about boobs, huh?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-16 04:56 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-09-16 05:19 am UTC (link)
. . .

She'd have to tape 'em down if she didn't want to draw attention - and it ain't her fault if others are too ignorant to notice the rest of her. And those clothes aren't tight-fitting; they're tailored.

(also, I fully admit to being jusjelus. I barely got to shake his hand once, but omfg I still remember his eyes. Omfg.)

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[info]chikane
2006-09-16 08:22 am UTC (link)
What. The. HELL?

When I read the wank description, I thought they were wanking about clothes like this:
http://images.joke.co.uk/images/products/cc232-med.jpg

Turns out she's perfectly covered. Cue me going: "Uh...what?"

Newsflash, Ann Althouse: It's not feminist to ask women to hide that they are female. No, not even if you wank hard. Taping down breasts is NOT feminist. Not even if these breasts make you jealous.

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(no subject) - [info]ailei, 2006-09-17 01:55 am UTC
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[info]lidane
2006-09-16 09:03 am UTC (link)
They're kidding, right?

She's dressed like a normal person, and she's posing normally in a group photo. How is this an affront to feminism again?

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(no subject) - [info]majorburns, 2006-09-16 05:33 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-09-17 03:20 am UTC (link)
Goddammit, why are there so many crazy people with (one of) my name(s)? Anne Rice, Anne Mccaffrey, Ann Althouse, I know there are some more I can't think of right now.

ainself

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2006-09-17 04:07 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-09-17 07:59 am UTC (link)
Is this the same Ann Althouse who once declared that she thought novels were irrelevant?

She's semi-famous in lib blogging circles (and some conservative circles as well) for being kind of a giant moron.

Also, someone honestly said that the fucking LEAD BLOGGER OF FEMINISTE isn't representing feminist values? WTF, seriously.

~~ Anonyrat

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(no subject) - [info]dere, 2006-09-17 02:58 pm UTC

[info]camilla
2006-09-17 11:41 am UTC (link)
Someone didn't send me that memo. But I'm not buying a Burka. Find it strange that I dress like a two-bit whore according to their standards - I have to! For balance! My students' butts are hanging out all over the place! - and that none of those animals, animals! (= men) have attacked me yet.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-18 12:06 am UTC (link)
Wow, I actually agree with Ginmar for once.

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