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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-10-02 23:25:00


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LJ is listening. Unfortunately, its users are not.
LJ says they've listened to the complaints and are going to make changes/announcements soon.

[info]ghostmaster points out this follow-up post that seems to be getting pretty wanky, complete with troll.

[info]expeliarbum points out that there's a new LJ petition. Because those ALWAYS work.

LJ attempts to explain about sponsored communities and how they're different.

And now Brad has come out of hiding to try and do more damage control and talk about renaming the sponsored communities something else. He also pleads for LJ users to please reply, but constructive, please.... it's a lot for us to read.

[info]grrilz found this gem: First they came for the free users, but you were a paid user so you didn't care. Then they came for the paid users, and there were no free users left with any objection to advertisements, so there was no one left to take your side and try to save LiveJournal. Not quite Godwin's, but close enough.

Edit: [info]grrilz has corrected me on the almost-Godwin's thing. It's now "Cydian's Law" from [info]bloodfyr: 'As a discussion grows longer, the probability of paraphrasing a poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller approaches one.'

Edit the second: [info]semirecluse has found another incident of Cydian's Law: In Live Journal they first said for "we're stopping the invite codes",
and I didn't speak up because I had one.
Then they said "We are going to have Ads even though we promised we wouldn't",
and I didn't speak up because "well, it's a business and they have to make money."
Then they came for the fanfiction people,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a fanficcer.
Then they came for the icon people,
and I didn't speak up because I was a icon maker.
Then they came for me -
and by that time no one was left to speak up.



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[info]grrliz
2006-10-03 04:34 am UTC (link)
Regarding the almost Godwin's Law comment: it's now officially called "Cydian's Law", sez [info]bloodfyr.
As a discussion grows longer, the probability of paraphrasing a poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller approaches one.

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-10-03 05:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]grrliz, 2006-10-03 05:16 am UTC

[info]white_serpent
2006-10-03 04:34 am UTC (link)
First they came for the free users, but you were a paid user so you didn't care. Then they came for the paid users, and there were no free users left with any objection to advertisements, so there was no one left to take your side and try to save LiveJournal

Well, now I feel bad for mocking those poor schmucks who can't have breastfeeding icons as a default.

Next they'll probably kill us all-- or, worse, take away icons altogether OMG.

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(no subject) - [info]theantifooosh, 2006-10-03 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2006-10-03 12:33 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2006-10-03 07:32 pm UTC

[info]charmian
2006-10-03 04:41 am UTC (link)
As I was saying in the other thread, I would have never had heard of this movie if there hadn't been a huge boycott and petition. Is this what they call... the combination of viral marketing and "no publicity is bad publicity"?

Anyway, Brad is going about this the wrong way. He can offer apologies and be all listen-y, but if he wants people to stop complaining, he should just say that everyone who endorses the policy gets ten free icons!!!!!

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-10-03 04:53 am UTC
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[info]wolfsamurai
2006-10-03 04:44 am UTC (link)
Every time I see someone whining about this stuff, I've trained myself to mentally replace the whining with Garth from the first Wayne's World movie saying "We fear change." It's much more amusing to deal with that way.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-03 05:16 am UTC (link)
Then they came for me -
and by that time no one was left to speak up.


Because we're getting all sorts of evidence that no one will speak up at something they don't like here?

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(no subject) - [info]grrliz, 2006-10-03 05:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2006-10-03 03:27 pm UTC

[info]amxjm
2006-10-03 05:18 am UTC (link)
I don't know how, but I've somehow never realized that LJ was so full of whiners. It's nice and (relatively) quiet when one tends to stick to one's own small circle, I suppose.

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(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2006-10-03 06:12 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-10-03 11:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2006-10-03 03:08 pm UTC

[info]mistal
2006-10-03 05:32 am UTC (link)
Maybe you have no interest in talking to them ... that's fine. Don't go there.

He's telling LJusers to use logic, isn't he?

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(no subject) - [info]cafferty, 2006-10-03 11:35 am UTC

[info]velvet_mace
2006-10-03 05:38 am UTC (link)
You know, no matter how many times they spin it, those sponsored "extra features" sound just like the same crap that EVERY company puts up on it's website. I mean really, how rare is it for a movie to offer up a trailer on the web. But you'd think from the way they were spinning it, these companies were offering up free bandwidth for our porn collections.

Do they honestly think we are going to say, "Gosh how wonderful! Thank you LJ! If you hadn't put these Adcoms on your site, I'd have to resort to using Google to get my movie trailers and 50 cent off coupons!"

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[info]derumi
2006-10-03 06:30 am UTC (link)
At least LJ hasn't given in to hiring a PR staff that understands how to deal with people. (BWAH. HA.)

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(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2006-10-03 10:44 am UTC

[info]squib
2006-10-03 06:34 am UTC (link)
I can kinda understand the ads. I less understand all the spam I'm getting through my paid user email address, or LJ trying to con people into "accidentally" signing up for automated payments. If I could come up with somewhere else to go, I'd take my money and leave. Of course, then I'd have to convince all the RL friends that I convinced to sign up for LJ to sign up for something else, and find a Pagan comm that isn't full of fluffy nitwits, and... ahscrewit, I guess I'll just stay on LJ. *grumble*

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[info]seraphtrevs
2006-10-03 06:36 am UTC (link)
SO MUCH LOVE FOR THIS WANK! ♥ They wank about color blindness in this one! It just keeps getting better! : D

[info]expeliarbum and I were talking earlier about how this has the making of an awesome drinking game. One drink for every reference to MySpace, one for threats of class action lawsuits, one for Big Brother-esque paranoia, one for claims of emotional betrayal, one for each quote of the original LJ statement about no ads...

Did I miss any?

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(no subject) - [info]expeliarbum, 2006-10-03 06:48 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-10-03 06:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mookie, 2006-10-03 01:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]grrliz, 2006-10-03 03:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mookie, 2006-10-03 08:46 pm UTC

[info]tez
2006-10-03 06:50 am UTC (link)
I seriously want to shove the nose of everyone who's bitching about the 'vocal majority' in the counter on LJ's front page.

But hell, colorblindness wank? That's freakin' genius! LOVE it!

--Tez, who has NO inclinations of giving up her four-year-old (paid for two of those years) LJ

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(no subject) - [info]slackeremeritus, 2006-10-03 07:09 am UTC
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[info]expeliarbum
2006-10-03 07:10 am UTC (link)
This is beautiful, imho. Small, yes, but beautiful.

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[info]keri
2006-10-03 07:16 am UTC (link)
I love my analogy too much to leave it buried in a reply to [info]phadguy on page three.


See, this whole sponsored community thing reminds me SO MUCH of those stupid corporate sponsored events at the mall. You know, Madden Challenge '06 or what was it we had last week, some dance contest. Basically, some corporate group (or even just the local humane society) brings in a bunch of superficial things like signs, booths, musicians, whatever. And they attract people who flock to see what's going, to get freebies. With the Madden one from EA Sports, people came not only to try and get to Vegas or wherever by winning the games, but they got to play for free and hang out with people who also liked playing Madden on the XBOX.


A month ago, there was this thing with Radio Disney that had that new girl from MTV who's really short and maybe 16 and with a reality show? I don't know who, but they broguht her and some other bands to play all day (and lemme tell you what...it SUCKED working in a store located behind the stage that day! you might think it's good for business, because we're close, so people trail in, but they actually slow up because it's hard to get to our door, or it's too loud - god it was so fucking loud, people left without buying things, and we had to go into our backroom to hear each other). Anyway, loads of teens showed up for the concerts and to get free stuff (pretty crappy stuff, but free) and hang out. Not much of a community, more like a group that was brought together by the suits.



If you can make sense of the analogy, that's what I see sponsored comms as. And I think [info]phadguy's suggestion of "Sponsored Group" rocks, and I also like his Monopoly houses like whoa.

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(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-10-03 01:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]monsley, 2006-10-03 02:08 pm UTC

[info]slackerbitch
2006-10-03 07:29 am UTC (link)
So ... am I the only one who got tempted to create a sock account and troll the [info]scienceofsleep comm? Y HELLO THAR, THIS MOVIE CURED MY ASS CANCER AND I'M TOTALLY NOT A SOCK AT ALL, GO TEAM!

I didn't do it, because they probably have moderated posts I'm far too mature for that. But I sat and giggled like a fiend at the idea.

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(no subject) - [info]itsirtou, 2006-10-03 01:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mookie, 2006-10-03 01:59 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2006-10-03 06:25 pm UTC

[info]batshitinsane
2006-10-03 08:21 am UTC (link)
this is why i just read the announcements and don't read the comments

Not going to leave lj soon, but then that's because I'm one of the schmucks who coughed up dough to pay for a perm account XD

(No seriously, I like lj.)

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[info]ryuutchi
2006-10-03 08:37 am UTC (link)
Then they came for the icon people,
and I didn't speak up because I was a icon maker.
Then they came for me -
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
and then I left LJ because it had gotten all boring.

Fixed!

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(no subject) - [info]wickedlester, 2006-10-04 08:29 pm UTC

dearladydisdain
2006-10-03 09:01 am UTC (link)
Either that last poem is missing a crucial word or [info]semirecluse should define "icon people" for the class.

*scratches head*


My personal favourite moment out of all this is the impassioned use of R.E.M. lyrics (from "It's the End of the World as We Know It," no less!) in mourning for the forgotten Social Contract. I mean, I love me some Stipe, but it's just so... Dwight Schrute.

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[info]bubosquared
2006-10-03 09:04 am UTC (link)
Re: Edit the Second, the way I remember it, it was more like this:

First they implemented invite codes*, and people claimed the sky was falling.
Then they did away with invite codes, and people claimed the sky was falling.
Then they were bought by Six Apart, and people claimed the sky was falling.
Then they implemented opt-in ads, and people claimed the sky was falling.
Then they--actually, what they hell is [info]blktauna on about with her/his "they came for the fanficcers/icon makers" bullshite? Was there a pogrom while I wasn't looking?

* Which were always meant to be a temporary measure, you whingers!

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(no subject) - eviemouse, 2006-10-03 09:25 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lindentreeisle, 2006-10-03 05:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-03 07:47 pm UTC
Livejournal: A Protest Song
[info]fevered_ego
2006-10-03 09:34 am UTC (link)
The fuhrer wants a new regime
And thousands fill with fear
The attics fill with trembling fen
As the Antichrist draws near.

He marches down each city street
In a hunt for works forbidden
If you're caught slashing Kirk x Spock
He might have to shoot your kitten.

"O brave new world!" The fandom cries,
"It's so damn terrifying.
It's just like 1939
But without all that icky dying."

And hark--a stomping up the steps!
He's found your secret lair!
The door flies open! Tremendous noise!
And you see him standing there!

Black three-piece suit, a briefcase
And a bad toupee to top it
The deadly menace has come at last
And no one's left to stop it.

"Aha," the devil says, and laughs
He's got you in his grasp.
He opens up his briefcase
"It's a gun! A gun!" you gasp.

But no! A can of soda!
And he holds it out to you.
"Drink this," he cries, "It's super-neat!
By the folks who make The Dew!"

And there it is, the secret plan
The Antichrist's desire:
No jack-boot thugs with machine guns
No nurseries on fire!

Just some dude who wants to sell you crap.
And though you may surely scoff,
There's still a way to fight this fiend:
TURN THE BLOODY POWER OFF.

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Re: Livejournal: A Protest Song - (Anonymous), 2006-10-03 04:18 pm UTC
Re: Livejournal: A Protest Song - [info]lindentreeisle, 2006-10-03 05:39 pm UTC

eviemouse
2006-10-03 09:41 am UTC (link)
Paranoia is spreading:

Count me as nervous, too. I just deleted all my fanwork in my LJ, but I can't find everything in the comms I'm a member of. I'm genuinely scared here.

To make it complete, the user deleted the journal.

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[info]nymeria
2006-10-03 11:20 am UTC (link)
Oh, mother. At least making pointless petitions beats trolling your own comms again, I'll give you that.

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[info]snarkbunny
2006-10-03 11:28 am UTC (link)
I love flashfire to pieces now. Actually, I seem to remember him/her/it being really awesome in comments in a past announcement post in much the same way, so I think I already did.

On the other hand, I don't love when I see someone I vaguely know in fandom and had a certain amount of respect for whining like a paranoid but somewhat more eloquent twelve year old. :/

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(no subject) - [info]verpon, 2006-10-03 12:36 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]grrliz, 2006-10-03 03:59 pm UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2006-10-03 11:39 am UTC (link)
They've got their Cydian's Law violations all wrong. Everybody knows that first they came for the breastfeeding mommies and their boobie!icons.

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