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Neko^2 ([info]nekoneko) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-10-03 15:43:00


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Someone's wanking in the Quad!
On the seventeenth of September, my college was visited by the group Tradition Family Property, who stood right outside the Student Memorial Center and played the bagpipes badly. I took pictures and video, since I love my digital camera and will take pictures of almost everything, put it on my LJ, it was over.

Wrong. The student newspaper, The Snapper, ran an article about it, with someone who agrees with their principles. And they cite the Facebook group that's against Tradition Family Property.

In tune with my own beliefs, I also think that those who oppose the TFP should do so in a more respectful fashion. This was not the case last Monday. Irate verbal attacks on the organization included calling the group Nazis and “Aryan Wackos.” A stroll around the dining halls that day would have revealed a number of anti-TFP conversations. I even stumbled across a Facebook group called Coalition against the Red Bagpiper. If you visit the group, you will find that their posts are full of cynicism and hate. One writer complains, “They’re destroying everything I love, including baby killing.” The worst part about such opposition is that it is usually in the name of tolerance, respect, and freedom. Yet, it seems people of this opinion are intolerant of any views opposing their own.

Why they would take the 'baby killing' comment seriously, I don't know.

The comments asplode.

Eleanor: I'm female, 56 years old, and lived through the illegal abortion era. Here are some facts: When a woman is pregnant and doesn't want to be, she WILL look for an abortion, whether it's safe and legal or dirty and dangerous.
Hypnotiq(who shows up frequently):I believe that abortions can lead to irresponsibility and reckless sexual behavior. If you choose to 'sleep around' with people, then be prepared to accept the consequences if something should go wrong. Take responsibility instead of looking for the easy way out.
'student':I just want to say thank you TFP for visiting Millersville University and for having the guts to say what virtually everyone is afraid to say in public: abortion is wrong and sinful. [...] College students today are indoctrinated to follow liberal ideas like a cows are led to pasture. Keep up the good work and never give up! God will give you victory.
'RE:Student':To student: Really? You agree with the recruitment of vulnerable children so that they can be used as political tools of the TFP's self-aggrandizing leaders?
The matter at hand: It really makes me sick to hear people praising a cult. That's what they are. Their recruiting tactics mirror the hitler youth, going into rural areas claiming to be fighting for god, and recruiting young boys ages 12 to 14.
Hypnotiq: "The matter at hand", i think you are looking at the abortion issue the wrong way. this isn't about women and what they should/shouldn't be allowed to have done to their bodies. it is an issue of personal responsibility, and depending on your views on abortion, murder. sorry, but women don't have the only say in this. the males that make them pregnant and the innocent lives they are deciding to terminate should also have a say.
'student':Wow! I guess I can't have my own opinion any more or support the peaceful actions of TFP. Someone posted this comment: "You agree with the recruitment of vulnerable children" and "I was pretty sure the Catholic Church (not some cult) was pretty adamant about condemning abortion in an intellectual way..." Well, for the record, that group doesn't recruit children. Stop making things up. Thank you. Second - did your read the flyer TFP was giving out on campus??? Did you??? It condemned abortion in a very calm and intellectual way.

Yesterday it was contraception. Today it's abortion, the murder of unborn children, same sex "marriage" (sic) and euthanasia Doesn't strike me as being very calm and intellectual, but whatever.

And there's going to be another article sometime, probably next week, as I've been asked if the paper can use my photos.



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[info]kadath
2006-10-03 08:21 pm UTC (link)
Ha! Bagpipe protest! I think I would have been too busy laughing to be offended.

What hole did Hypnotiq crawl out of, anyway, and if you see him, can you shove him back in?

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[info]caito
2006-10-03 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to stand on the side of the road, holding up a sign that says "HONK IF YOU LOVE HONKING."

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[info]tianxiaode
2006-10-03 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Oh, God, they're claiming to be Catholic. *backs away slowly*

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shempskaya
2006-10-03 08:48 pm UTC (link)
This group also has a history of harassing our Women's Center. They apparently made an appearance at the Wellness Festival (I don't remember if it was the same day or a few days afterward) and cornered one of my classmates who works there, trying to get them to give out their crazy pamphlets. Apparently one of them made quite an impassioned argument that their stuff should be included to give a "balanced" opinion.

The girl working the table wouldn't do it unless they'd take a bunch of the Wellness Center pamphlets in exchange. They wouldn't do that.

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[info]hallidae
2006-10-03 08:55 pm UTC (link)
Damn... I've apparently been exceedingly lucky to have never even heard of these loons.

Now that I've said so, they'll probably show up at the campus. ::facepalm::

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[info]nifflet
2006-10-03 09:13 pm UTC (link)
Hypnotiq: "The matter at hand", i think you are looking at the abortion issue the wrong way.

*snerk* You are interrogating this text from the wrong perspective!

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[info]theantifooosh
2006-10-03 09:22 pm UTC (link)
I think my favorite point is #10. I mean, all along you think that the plot is about abortion. Abortionists are like terrorists, in a way. Stem cell research is about ending life. Abortion destroys the family. Abortionists are like Hitler, in a way.

And then, out of the blue: SAME SEX MARRIAGE = MURDER!!!

What a plot twist! Worthy of M. Night Shyamalan, himself! I give this screed A+++

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[info]ladysorka
2006-10-03 09:27 pm UTC (link)
That poor bagpipe didn't deserve to be abused like that.

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[info]shaggydogstail
2006-10-03 09:32 pm UTC (link)
the innocent lives they are deciding to terminate should also have a say.

How does Hypnotiq think foetuses can 'have a say'?

Also, as someone once said, a true gentleman is one who knows how to play the bagpipes, and doesn't.

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[info]honorh
2006-10-03 09:50 pm UTC (link)
One writer complains, “They’re destroying everything I love, including baby killing.”

Okay, I have to love that sentence. It's either English cluelessness to the nth degree or a fine example of satire. Either way, I love it.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2006-10-03 09:57 pm UTC (link)
Damn. Why doesn't anybody Bagpipe For Great Justice for causes I can get behind?

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[info]tez
2006-10-03 10:06 pm UTC (link)
I feel totally deprived that our campus bagpiper never did anything but try to pick up chicks by the belltower with his mad pipin' skillz.

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[info]iris
2006-10-03 10:15 pm UTC (link)
I wish our crazy protesters would play the bagpipes. We just get people with big signs who yell at us and tell us that our professors are servants of the devil. :(

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2006-10-04 02:18 am UTC

verthandi
2006-10-03 10:30 pm UTC (link)
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices--oh, wait, that's just the bagpiper.

Is there a sudden rise in campus protests or is it just me? I've been going to this uni five years now and other than dodging the Mormons and the occasional (single) preacher, I haven't seen any protests. Last winter, there was some anti-choice group and this year alone, we've had two, possibly three groups protest.

Annoying protesters, please, have a chill pill and a baby sandwich. I guarantee you'll feel better.

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[info]splorch
2006-10-03 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Woo! PA SSHE represent! (WCU alum. Hee.) This whole thing reminds me of the random preacher who stood on the quad with his briefcase covered in bumper stickers and ranted all day about hellfire and sin and whores. Bagpipes would have been the perfect finishing touch.

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[info]altoidsaddict
2006-10-03 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Oh, damn that is some bad piping. Hell, last night at practice some of our pipers got reamed because one of them was a teensy bit off on tempo during a difficult transition. I'd love our pipe major to have about five minutes with that guy.

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[info]geegaw
2006-10-03 11:03 pm UTC (link)
TFP thinks *Walmart* is pro-communist and pro-homosexual? WALMART?

Good God.

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[info]smo
2006-10-03 11:10 pm UTC (link)
LOL bagpipers.

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[info]kijikun
2006-10-03 11:24 pm UTC (link)
I...I...*head desks a few million times*

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[info]seiberwing
2006-10-03 11:24 pm UTC (link)
So the terrorists are responsible for abortions. Cool.

And against with the making a baby a punishment for not going along with their ideals on sex.

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[info]goldberry
2006-10-04 12:18 am UTC (link)
Anybody notice the poll they've got on the side re: Hugo Chavez?

What should be done about Hugo Chavez’s anti-American tirade at the UN?
1. He is a threat to US security and should be dealt with as such
2. His communist rhetoric is something that could cause future trouble and should be publicly denounced
3. He should be made to apologize
4. All of the above
5. Undecided

Damn, that is a good range of options, right there. It's fair and balanced enough to have come straight from Faux Noos!

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[info]amyheartssiroc
2006-10-04 12:29 am UTC (link)
I wish there were more arguments against abortion by non-religious pro-lifers. They tend to be more convincing and less "because God said so, beyotch!"

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[info]moonjaguar
2006-10-04 03:17 am UTC (link)
I thought these guys were a joke site like Landover Baptist?

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-04 03:28 am UTC (link)
http://www.tfp.org/TFPForum/PCO/pagan_manliness.htm

......O_o

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I need to not read this page. - [info]seiberwing, 2006-10-04 03:33 pm UTC
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[info]innsmouth_eyes
2006-10-04 04:18 am UTC (link)
Yesterday it was contraception. Today it's abortion, the murder of unborn children, same sex "marriage" (sic) and euthanasia

Contraception is murder? But doesn't contraception help prevent the need for abortion? *thinks about singing 'Every Sperm Is Sacred', decides against it*

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