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Zee ([info]zee) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-10-21 12:48:00


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Fanfic Rants Strikes Again! Or...does it?
Yesterday on [info]fanficrants, [info]football_girl posted a tl;dr rant about...people who rant.

The essence of her issue is that people dare to complain about authors who don't write their characters in character. According to her, because this is fandom, anyone should be able to write any character in whatever style they prefer, and no one should complain about it:

Because, you see, the whole point of fan-fic is for people who want to see the different sides of the characters the writers have written to be able to do so. For those of us who think Draco should end up with Harry to be able to read/write about it. For those of us who think Draco would be a gentle lover to write/read about it. ETC ETC ETC

So why are people yelling all around in this community things like: "Draco is supposed to be crule and vile and stubborn, stop portraying him as actually good deep inside!! What must I do to make people understand Draco is vile and cruel? Can't you people read? Haven't you read the books?"

If we were satisfied with "the books", fan-fic would not exist. Because someone wants to portray a character differently than you, YOUR MAJESTIES, would like to see him/her, it doesn't mean their work is crappy or wrong. If you don't like nice!Draco, don't read it! If someone wants to dress Snape in a tutu and you don't like it? DON'T READ IT, stop bitching on here that: "HOW DARE THEY, BIATCHES, NOT SHARE MY OPINION ON WHAT THING SHOULD BE!!!"


This is obvious wank fodder, but the replies are surprisingly civil. Some people agree outright, others agree to a point, and others disagree strongly, but are resonably polite. In fact, there are only a few outright wanky responses, and are mostly limited to silly things like this, and only a few are outright rude in response, but are actually articulate and make some excellent points.

In short, there were over 200 replies and there was practically no real wank to speak of at all. That's frankly amazing and probably makes this one of the least-wanky wanky posts ever posted in [info]fanficrants.

So why is this even being posted in a wank community?

Because the very next day she posted this:

Hey!

This may be eventually deleted, and that's fine, because I'm not staying and may be breaking a couple of rules of this community, for which I apologise.

You all know my post. The ever-famous bitching post that got about, oh, I don't know, about 200 replies by now? There was a reason I posted it, and you'll all find out soon enough why if you keep your eyes open on LJ. You did exactly what I expected you to do. Flame me, bitch at me, tell me I was a dumb-ass. All for doing what you've been doing all along - posting insults about people. Only this time, I posted an insult about YOU, and that sucked, didn't it?

I never approved of communities like this, but I had to stick it out. I had some fun, I had some support, but mostly just over 100 people telling me I was a bitch and I had no right to insult and generalise. Which is more ironic than your defensive mechanism against my attacks at you will ever allow you to see.

So, my job is done. Thank you for contributing. I enjoyed it. Keep your eyes open. I'm sure you're just going to love it. xD

Also, I apologise if this actually long-term hurt someone.

Me.

P.S. And really, if you still have a personal grudge against me, go to therapy, not to my LJ to finish your rants.


...OH NO! [info]fanficrants has just been INSULTED! I'm sure everyone's suitably horrified that this er, "ever-famous" post has exposed the awful, awful hypocrisy inherent in this community! I'd say she was new to the internet, but I know she's not.

She has yet to post anything in her journal, but I truly look forward to further self-righteous idiocy from this chick.



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[info]agent_hyatt
2006-10-21 08:27 pm UTC (link)
There are no amusing mod tags. I expected amusing mod tags. I feel so cheated...

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[info]altoidsaddict
2006-10-21 08:28 pm UTC (link)
"ever-famous"?

What is she, new?

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[info]brown_betty
2006-10-21 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Oh, snap!

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[info]hallidae
2006-10-21 08:34 pm UTC (link)
The part that's the funniest is that she seems honestly surprised that people called her an overgeneralizing bitch.

It also sounds like she's getting ready to pull a giant "it was a social experiment" exuse sometime soon, which will be even more amusing.

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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-10-21 09:55 pm UTC

[info]rekall
2006-10-21 08:35 pm UTC (link)
The ever-famous bitching post that got about, oh, I don't know, about 200 replies by now?

Only 200 replies? That's pretty bad for a ffrants wank. Guess she should try harder next time.

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[info]semtex
2006-10-21 08:36 pm UTC (link)
*yawn*...

Where is this Snape in a tutu she speaks of?
Hopefully in illustrated form.

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(no subject) - [info]azazello, 2006-10-21 08:38 pm UTC
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I'll let Benry speak for me on this one. - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2006-10-22 11:55 pm UTC
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[info]azazello
2006-10-21 08:37 pm UTC (link)
Reasons to be pleased I took ranficfants off my flist #9,566,456...

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2006-10-21 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Hm. If I had to guess, I'd say she's going to go to LJAbuse and complain about the attack she suffered while ranting in a rant community. Either that or she'll try to bring public attention to the comm.
The point is that FFRants Will Not Escape Impune.

I'd bring popcorn, but she sounds so full of herself that the outcome surely will be boring.

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(no subject) - [info]rekall, 2006-10-21 08:41 pm UTC
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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-10-21 08:44 pm UTC (link)
You all know my post.

No.

The ever-famous bitching post

Ever-famous? What?

about 200 replies by now?

Oh, no wonder I haven't heard of it. Only 200 comments is pretty small, as fanficrants wank goes.

if you still have a personal grudge against me

Actually, they just have grudges against stupidity. It's nothing against you personally. You're really not that important.

...man, she certainly thinks highly of herself. It'd pretty cute if she hadn't disallowed comments, but since she did - and that's against the rules (she must be above those, or something) - I'm banning her.

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[info]caito
2006-10-21 08:45 pm UTC (link)
Wow, this girl comes off as a real ass.

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[info]caito
2006-10-21 08:48 pm UTC (link)
AND NOW THERE ARE MOD TAGS. HOORAY!

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[info]entelodont
2006-10-21 08:51 pm UTC (link)
OMG you guys! She never approved of communities like that! Although if she had been showered with love and flowers no doubt she'd be spamming it with posts everyday.

Also, I apologise if this actually long-term hurt someone.

Ah, sweet, sweet delusion. Did she disable comments or was that a mod move?

There was a reason I posted it, and you'll all find out soon enough why if you keep your eyes open on LJ.

INTERNET TERRORIST THREAT?!?


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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-10-21 08:54 pm UTC

[info]hallidae
2006-10-21 08:53 pm UTC (link)
banhammer!, egotistical wankers, fap fap fap, hating the haters/wank wank wank, i want a pony, inflated sense of self-importance, keeping jergens in business, repeat offender, smile you're on fandom wank you moron, too cowardly to allow comments, wank fodder, we don't care who you are, you are the weakest link

Bwahahahaha. I also like how she violated comm rules by disabling commenting on her whine post.

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[info]saralina25
2006-10-21 09:00 pm UTC (link)
Hurray for the new "Too cowardly to allow comments" tag!

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[info]chibikaijuu
2006-10-21 09:05 pm UTC (link)
What really bothers me is that she's got all these wonderful Beauty and the Beast icons. Nobody that obnoxious should have icons I covet. She used this wonderful giggling Lumiere on me here, which made it really difficult to actually be snarky at her.

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[info]chikane
2006-10-21 09:21 pm UTC (link)
Wow, now THAT is an attention-whore.

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[info]elektra3
2006-10-21 09:27 pm UTC (link)
Because, you see, the whole point of fan-fic is for people who want to see the different sides of the characters the writers have written to be able to do so.

Wow. Looks like someone is a bit unclear on the difference between "allowing for a reasonable degree of variation with regards to characterization" and "mangling said character beyond all recognition".

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(no subject) - [info]quettaser, 2006-10-21 10:05 pm UTC
Because I missed the party over there...
rachelthedemon
2006-10-21 10:05 pm UTC (link)

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Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]smo, 2006-10-21 10:29 pm UTC
Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2006-10-21 10:35 pm UTC
Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]smo, 2006-10-21 10:39 pm UTC
Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]semtex, 2006-10-22 06:10 am UTC
Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]smo, 2006-10-23 04:11 pm UTC
Re: Because I missed the party over there... - [info]semtex, 2006-10-22 06:11 am UTC

dracothelizard
2006-10-21 10:06 pm UTC (link)
So, she's pleased that she's insulted fanficrants, even though the majority of the people commenting in that post aren't actually insulted? And then there's all those members who didn't actually *bother* commenting on that post, so, er, I'm not sure where she gets that 'Yay I insulted you and proved your hypocrisy!' thing from.

Also, I think her own LJ shows why she's so sensitive to people critisising other people: She's a model/actress and she's working on making it big!

And she doesn't believe in beta's as far as her own work is concerned, but she does beta for lots and lots of people herself.

Because thinking that YOUR work doesn't need a beta whilst happily beta'ing other people's fics isn't hypocritical AT ALL.

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[info]sarajayechan
2006-10-21 10:10 pm UTC (link)
Well, she just lost a buttload of internets there. "LOL OMG I JUST WANTED TO SEE YOU REACT!!! LOL I'M SO CLEVAR!!!!"

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(no subject) - [info]kalicephirot, 2006-10-21 11:04 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-10-21 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Ah, FFR. Come for the rants, stay for the wank. Wait... Is that backwards?

-viralmemory @ lj

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[info]kalicephirot
2006-10-21 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Wait... 200 comments is big over FFR now? Isn't that sort of... you know, the minimum required for it to be semi-wanky? Like, 'Okay, hit the 200 and you'll get funky mod tags'?

But other than that... YAY for mod tags! =D

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(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2006-10-22 01:12 pm UTC

[info]straykat
2006-10-21 11:05 pm UTC (link)
"The ever-famous bitching post that got about, oh, I don't know, about 200 replies by now?"

She loses to scottswife by like, what? Two hundred, maybe closer to three hundred some comments, total? I'll still remember scottswife and her levels of batshit in six months, but I'll probably forget about football_girl's bitching in about a week, if not sooner.

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[info]missdaisy
2006-10-21 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Ooohhh, BURN! Only not.

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[info]aerobot
2006-10-22 12:11 am UTC (link)
Wow.

That second post is the pure definition of a 'hollow victory', isn't it?

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-10-22 01:48 am UTC
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