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Yeah Yeah Beebiss I ([info]harrylovesron) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-11-13 20:49:00


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Current mood:Amazed

Have YOU been touched by His Noodly Appendage?
I originally posted this video to [info]fandom_lounge, but the wanky reaction to it is worth noting.

A video of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in all of His starchy glory appears on a blog. But if you scroll further down to the comments, people have managed to spectacularly miss the point of the video and Pastafarianism itself.

FSM Apostate: While FSM proves nothing, the point is this: there is just as much evidence for the existence of FSM as any other deity.

At the risk of inciting violent rioting among the FSM-believing population, let me make the math clearer:

Reasons for believing in FSM = Reasons for believing in [BibleGod | KoreshGod | GreekGod]

Reasons for believing in [BibleGod | KoreshGod | GreekGod] = 0

therefore ...

Reasons for believing in FSM = 0


John Brownlee: "Reasons for believing in [BibleGod | KoreshGod | GreekGod] = 0"

There's actually significantly more reason to believe any of those exist than "0", and I say that as an atheist who doesn't believe in any of them. When you start spouting rank dismissal like this in the form of pseudomath, the only applause you get? From people just as insufferably smug, who already happen to agree with you.

It's a stupid meme amongst atheists (my peer group, for the record) whom are no where near as impervious to standard mob-mentality Groupthink in the name of their beliefs as the Christians or other god-believers they love to snort at. In other words, it's pretty much a cute character design incarnated as an open symbol of their own hypocrisy.

There's nothing inherently ridiculous in believing in God: it all comes down to whether you think the begin point of existence is sentient or not.


Matrym: I think you guys are missing the original point of the FSM. He was "discovered" in order to argue that a school teaching a deity such as Christianity's God must also teach the FSM, and in doing so, block any Gods from being taught.

The point was never to disprove another religion's God, it was to prove that such an entity could not be proven, and should therefore be absent in a public school's education.


Chris: 1) The debate over the true meaning of the Flying Spaghetti Monster really helpes illustrate a couple of things. First, it shows how rapidly an idea may be repurposed by other people to make it mean most anything they want. Second, it shows that geeks are way too fond of acronyms.

2) As for the 'clever' person who pointed out that there is as much proof for the existence of 'God' as any other diety. Wow. Did you come up with that all on your own? Look pal, if there was proof then there wouldn't be any need for faith or trust as both are based on unknowability and doubt.


Jay: Don't you people believe the real God is going to be slightly offended by comparing him to a flying Spaghetti Monster?

Roger: "There is as much proof for the existence of FSM as there is any other deity"

There is? Wonderful, could you point me in the direction of a first-century messianic Jewish sect who, on their crucifixion of their messianic candidate, generated a FSM based theology? Given your self-confidence, I figured you must have some first-century evidence that the scholarly world is dying to see.


And on and on. Good grief.

For those of you wondering just who FSM is, read His Wikipedia article.




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[info]napalmnacey
2006-11-14 03:08 am UTC (link)
Great. Now I'm hungry.

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-11-14 04:53 am UTC
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[info]ichigatsu
2006-11-14 03:11 am UTC (link)
Well, it is kind of hard to worship a deity that inspires hunger instead of awe.

Then again I'm Catholic so we're used to eating God. And spaghetti instead of communion wafers would be so much better.

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(no subject) - [info]sisterelwood, 2006-11-14 03:16 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2006-11-14 06:55 am UTC
He's omnifunctional! - [info]pariforma, 2006-11-14 04:07 pm UTC
Re: He's omnifunctional! - [info]caito, 2006-11-14 05:25 pm UTC
Re: He's omnifunctional! - [info]pariforma, 2006-11-14 07:36 pm UTC
Re: He's omnifunctional! - [info]caito, 2006-11-14 08:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ichigatsu, 2006-11-14 03:26 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-11-14 03:16 am UTC (link)
We just had communion last night :) With homemade marinara sauce.

--ljuser peaseblossom03

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-11-14 04:57 am UTC

[info]toph
2006-11-14 03:22 am UTC (link)
I rather liked this bit-

Jesus doesn't talk about "bettering" yourself, he says go be poor, throw away everything, and hang out with the most destitute people you can find. Jesus was the moocher who would crash on your couch, drink your beer and eat your Cheetos, then when you told him to leave, he would give you some hard luck story about how he was an out of work carpenter but now he was the son of God.

Made me giggle, at least.

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(no subject) - [info]brown_betty, 2006-11-14 05:22 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-11-14 03:24 am UTC (link)
STOP IT!1! NOW I'M ALL HUNGRY!!!

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"That's a good meatball!"
[info]wickedchild
2006-11-14 03:39 am UTC (link)
Tell me The Wedding Singer didn't enter your mind when seeing this!

Somehow though I think Matrym is the one using actual logic. S/he should stop. The logic makes things less humorous.

I'd be far more attempted to believe in a Reece's Pieces Monster/God/Diety/Thing.

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Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 04:12 am UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]wickedchild, 2006-11-14 04:14 am UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 04:37 am UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]wickedchild, 2006-11-15 01:51 am UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]singe, 2006-11-15 02:38 am UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]bitca, 2006-11-14 04:04 pm UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]queencallipygos, 2006-11-14 04:58 pm UTC
Re: "That's a good meatball!" - [info]wickedchild, 2006-11-15 01:50 am UTC
Billy Crystal sez... - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 05:46 pm UTC

[info]mookie
2006-11-14 04:11 am UTC (link)
I have nothing to say, but I can't stop staring at your icon.

God Flying Spaghetti Monster. Damn. That's hot.

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-11-14 04:58 am UTC
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[info]ghostmaster
2006-11-14 04:11 am UTC (link)
Well, I'm a believer.

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[info]plazmah
2006-11-14 04:14 am UTC (link)
His noodly worshipfulness has blessed us! RAMEN!

On the other hand, I could see the point clearly sailing over these people's heads.

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(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-11-14 06:21 am UTC
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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-11-14 04:33 am UTC (link)
"My belief system is the best!"

"No, mine is!"

"NO MINE!"

"MINE!"

I swear, it's like watching two-year olds fight over a Tickle-Me-Elmo.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-11-14 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 02:02 pm UTC

[info]gal_montag
2006-11-14 04:38 am UTC (link)
Man, if I saw some shit like that, I'd run screaming into the night. The video was funny, though. Fliegenes Spaghetti Monster indeed.

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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2006-11-14 12:54 pm UTC

[info]singe
2006-11-14 04:41 am UTC (link)
PIRATES! I'm now a convert.

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2006-11-14 05:51 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-11-14 05:56 am UTC
;) - [info]tehrin, 2006-11-14 05:57 am UTC
Re: ;) - [info]mmanurere, 2006-11-14 06:41 am UTC
Re: ;) - [info]mmanurere, 2006-11-14 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-11-14 01:57 pm UTC
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[info]rosehiptea
2006-11-14 05:41 am UTC (link)
I keep thinking that FSM stands for some sort of sexual practice.

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(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2006-11-14 06:50 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-11-14 05:44 am UTC (link)
Tastiest deity since sliced bread.

-dustmotes

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(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-11-14 08:52 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2006-11-14 05:50 am UTC (link)
Now I really want spaghetti. Why couldn't this wank be posted before I went to the dining hall?!

And Roger fails for throwing the first century around(but not so much as the super athiest guy, John) Just because one major world religon emerged doesn't mean its that long ago. It's actually quite recent if you look at the rest of history.

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-11-14 06:31 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-11-14 08:10 am UTC (link)
Don't you people believe the real God is going to be slightly offended by comparing him to a flying Spaghetti Monster?

Comedy gold.

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[info]michmatch
2006-11-14 09:39 am UTC (link)
I was totally distracted by the Jedi census reference. That was my favorite religious/political kerfluffle ever. People are making it really hard not to move to New Zealand.

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[info]elektra3
2006-11-14 10:36 am UTC (link)
What is it with religious debaters and bringing up proof? I mean... isn't part of the point of faith that you don't have any proof? There's a reason why it's called a "belief" system and not a "rigorously proven facts" system.

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[info]verpon
2006-11-14 03:01 pm UTC (link)
"It used to be people feared an eternity in hell for killing someone, now they only have to fear 10 to 15 in prison. Reason to believe in God = 0?? Tell that to the parents of the 16 year old girl who got her head blown off for $37.50 out of the register when they watch their daughters murderer fear nothing but his parole officer. But then again, I guess you can keep blaming it on society."

What?

Seriously, what?

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(no subject) - [info]avari, 2006-11-14 03:16 pm UTC
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[info]caito
2006-11-14 05:27 pm UTC (link)
Damn it, I'm too late to make the requisite "We Catholics already eat our God" joke.

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[info]isntitironic
2006-11-14 05:47 pm UTC (link)
See, I remember Discordianism, so I predict that the ultimate irony is going to be in 15 years when, given the resilience of the religious impluse in the human mind, many of the people who use the FSM as purely a giddy way of scoffing at traditional religionists will find, to their surprise, that they have become *sincere* Pastafarians.

I hope he's kidding.

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(no subject) - [info]hellespont, 2006-11-14 08:10 pm UTC
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[info]okalintu
2006-11-14 06:00 pm UTC (link)
The Pastafarian belief of heaven stresses two points. "A) It has beer volcanos as far as the eye can see & B) It has a stripper factory", the fact that pirates are "absolute divine beings" and The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster have just converted me.

I'm a believer!

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[info]viralmemory
2006-11-14 10:38 pm UTC (link)
Just for this, I made an icon. I have nothing else to contribute because I'm starving, and I wanna go home. Lacking actual spaghetti, I'll have to make due with Ravioli. Woe.

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(no subject) - [info]lottelita, 2006-11-14 10:47 pm UTC

[info]lottelita
2006-11-14 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Forget internet lawyers. Internet theologians are for the lose.

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[info]marciamarcia
2006-11-15 10:32 pm UTC (link)
There is? Wonderful, could you point me in the direction of a first-century messianic Jewish sect who, on their crucifixion of their messianic candidate, generated a FSM based theology? Given your self-confidence, I figured you must have some first-century evidence that the scholarly world is dying to see.

Fact #1: The presence of old Christian texts does not prove the reality of a Christian God any more than the Venus of Willendorf proves that there's a Wiccan Goddess.

Fact #2: The presence of old Christian texts written about Jesus 70 years after his death doesn't prove there was a Jesus. And, if someone found objective, outsider, contemporary texts that mentioned Jesus, that would still not prove the existance of God, let alone the divinity of Christ.

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