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	kadath 2006-11-19 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	He got tased because he refused to give his ID to people in authority, not because of his race. Aw, shit, yeah! Jaywalking? Tase 'im! Wise-ass T-shirt? ZAP! Parking violation? 50,000 volts, bitch! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kahteh 2006-11-19 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	I often feel the urge to tase people wearing wiseass t-shirts. shifty eyes (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	verpon 2006-11-19 07:37 pm UTC (link)
	He refused to get up when given a clear order by the cops and he was told he would be tased again if he didn't get his ass up. Why are there so many dumb people in the world? The aim of the tazer is to incapacitate a person and therefore getting to ones feet after being tazed is kinda difficult if not bloody impossible. So many people need dictionaries wipes up (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Zap! singe 2006-11-19 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	What a wuss that guy was for being stunned by, y'know, a stun-gun. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	cat_mcdougall 2006-11-19 08:46 pm UTC (link)
	The aim of the tazer is to incapacitate a person and therefore getting to ones feet after being tazed is kinda difficult if not bloody impossible. There are, somewhere (NaNo has eaten my brain, and I'm too tired to go looking), accounts of those hyped on PCP/drug of choice getting back up, but umm... I saw the video and yeah, he wasn't getting up. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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criticalcricket
2006-11-24 06:27 am UTC (link)

In one report of this incident, the cops explained that their tazers have two functions. The incapacitating one and another, move along type zap that is just a mild shock to get people moving (how mild is mild? I don't know). They say that they used their move along type zap on him to get him moving, because what is the point of incapacitating someone they're trying to get rid of yes? If you dig around, I'm sure you'll find the same info on the gajillion news articles of the incident.

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	shinga 2006-11-19 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	Whaaa? Y'know... I thought, of all things, childfree wouldn't be brought into this. Shows how naive I still am sometimes. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	jira 2006-11-19 07:56 pm UTC (link)
	HAH. Your icon made me sporfle coffee. Heee. (Reply to this)(Parent)

nevadafighter
2006-11-19 09:16 pm UTC (link)

Well, when you have someone willing to make a really far-out connection . . .

I love the assumption that this guy MUST have been raised to be an entitle-brat with no knowledge of him whatsoever. I know that there are kids out there being raised to believe that the sun and moon shine out of their asses (I taught a few of them in college), but making the "refusal to comply = must have been raised by parents who never said 'no' to him" is a bit of a stretch.

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	krazycat 2006-11-19 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	Kanun_tei. Bad spelling, crap opinions. F-. (Reply to this)

	keleri 2006-11-19 08:21 pm UTC (link)
	aklsdjklsjdklasjdkjkksRAGE. (Reply to this)

	iris 2006-11-19 08:24 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, look, we even have Godwin's. Insert tl;dr about how Hitler's tactics went far beyond just "teaching children to obey," etc etc I should save this for my next paper, bottom line YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON, SIR OR MA'AM. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	judyhazeleyes 2006-11-19 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	Oh God, I've witnessed other issues with that one before. He's a special case. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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	jenova 2006-11-19 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	Can I dare to hope, with a username like that, that perhaps this is a troll with a mythology fetish? (Eris -- trolling the gods since before the Trojan War!) (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	rotten_fish 2006-11-19 08:41 pm UTC (link)
	I don't care how many times they spell Ashleigh wrong, it will never be funny. >:( (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	alpheratz 2006-11-19 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	I see dumb people. (Reply to this)

	oxydosic 2006-11-19 11:30 pm UTC (link)
	Not all ill-mannered children come from lax parenting. Telling your child no and disciplining them properly does not guarantee they'll be an upstanding law-abiding citizen. Earth logic - my anti-drug. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-19 11:40 pm UTC (link)

While I agree that the whole situation could have been avoided if he had given the cops his ID... um... that in no way excuses the cops behavior. It is still not OK to tase someone that much. If you wanted to remove him from the library, they could have just picked him up and dragged him out of the library and into the UCPD car if they needed to.

I go to UCLA. The angry protests have been awesome.

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	eli_eli_oh 2006-11-20 12:38 am UTC (link)
	Kids get an additude that anyone who messes with them gets messed up, even the cops. Kids today with their additudes. Doing math on the streets; getting sums wherever they can find them. Makes me sick! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2006-11-20 01:23 am UTC (link)
	He was being helped up by the cops. They weren't asking him to stand up on his own stregnth. He was not ocmplying with officers who were trying to help him up get your facts straight. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (Reply to this)

	ashenmote 2006-11-20 01:55 am UTC (link)
	What? The theory makes perfect sense to me. It's clearly a case of bad parenting! That is, on the preliminary condition that his parents are campus cops. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	wrongly_amused 2006-11-20 03:34 am UTC (link)
	Why is this so hard for people to understand? Taser = alternative to be used in a situation that would otherwise require a firearm Kid being belligerent over ID = NOT A LETHAL SITUATOIN KTHX For the love of sanity. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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issendai
2006-11-20 10:42 am UTC (link)

*groans*

This whole mess reminds me of a study done in England quite a while ago. The police didn't carry guns, but they did carry batons. Baton use was extremely low. A squad of police were issued guns as an experiment. The police force discovered that gun use didn't go out of control--not one officer used their gun. What did go out of control was baton use. Once the police had guns, the batons looked like nothing to them.

That's happening here, too. Tasers are supposed to be a form of nonlethal gun. Once you've got a gun, though, nothing else looks all that serious, so you wind up using everything else that much more. Worse, tasers are neat and clean. No blood, no bruising, just a little tidy electricity. Beating someone with a baton feels brutal, but giving them a quick zap? Psh, doesn't hardly count as real violence.

(I'm not excusing the cops in this case. They should all serve jail time, preferably in a prison where the guards are taser-happy. They're definitely riding the wave of a more general indifference to taser use, though.)

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	aerobot 2006-11-20 01:10 pm UTC (link)
	I like the idea that only bad parents raise jerks. Because I've seen well-mannered people have bad parents and have absolute hellions have good parents. Shit, my mother's side of the family abides by the good/evil kid rule - if you have two kids, one will be a nice kid, and the other will be a terror, regardless of the parenting. It's put me off having kids, period. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	soupspooks 2006-11-22 08:39 pm UTC (link)
	cough Danger! Danger! High Voltage! (damn you, Manfred von Karma, Electric Six, and the unholiness of Phoenix Wrong that brought you together! ...goes to newgrounds) (Reply to this)