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grapefruitzzz ([info]grapefruitzzz) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2006-11-29 00:23:00
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Racism? Nationalism? It's just not cricket.
England cricket player Sajid Mahmood has a column in the left-wing English newspaper 'The Guardian'. He discusses the match and his hopes to actually play next time and then ends with a comment on the crowd.

I was carrying a drink round the boundary to Harmy when the first thing I heard was a voice from the crowd saying: "You can't be English." You're going to get stuff like that out here and you've just got to learn to ignore it. There's no point biting back because there's going to be a lot of it. I have to learn to block it out and not let it affect my game.

Australians take exception to this generalisation. Britons take exception to the Australians taking exception. Wank ensues, including "You're generalising!" "No, you are!" "It's because you people all the same!". Someone defends the word 'wog'. Someone tries to discuss cricket. The Gulf War is brought up. Meaty.

Here we are

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[info]shadowkitty
2006-11-29 01:57 am UTC (link)
I don't see why the Guardian bothers having a reply facility to articles. It just brings wank.

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[info]t_boy
2006-11-29 02:55 am UTC (link)
What? Where then will the Common Man get his daily dose of moral indignation, unwarranted and unwanted pseudo-intellectual diversion, previously-hidden bigotries, grudge-holding for incredibly pointless and trivial matters and batshittery?

In order words, Where Then Shall The Common Man Wank?

Besides, it's a "Sports Blog". Fair game, I say.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 02:52 am UTC (link)
A wank involving Australia and cricket is just not complete without dragging in state stereotypes. Presumably then, some of the more vocal locals at the Gabba were just pissed parochial bogans.

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[info]napalmnacey
2006-11-29 09:05 am UTC (link)
Pissed parochial bogans: Our new ambassadors.

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[info]grapefruitzzz
2006-11-29 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Great word 'bogan'. I first saw it used in an article by Germaine Greer to describe Shane Warne.

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[info]napalmnacey
2006-11-29 04:56 pm UTC (link)
I never know what to do when someone doesn't know what it means. It's the same with 'dag'. It's *like* dork, but less with the intelligence and more with the bad clothes, bad hygeine and bad attitude. I can barely explain it.

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[info]grapefruitzzz
2006-11-30 04:28 am UTC (link)
If Warne's one, I think I can work it out :D

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D:
[info]t_boy
2006-11-29 03:00 am UTC (link)
It's so sad. I'm so used to seeing blog comments sorted out in thread format, that when I see it like this I get hopelessly confused.

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[info]mistal
2006-11-29 03:24 am UTC (link)
Where did you get the icon? Because the sentence in it sound very funky and isn't right. Unless it's suppose to be like that, but if you want it the right way l'internet est une chose serieuse would be better.

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[info]t_boy
2006-11-29 04:07 am UTC (link)
It probably is. Got it from </a></b></a>[info]fidchell.

I don't mind that the sentence is funky in itself; "l'internet est une chose serieuse" doesn't seem to have the same comedic impact as the current sentence, at least for non-French speakers like me. Hey, if Pratchett can get away with very bad doggy Latin I don't see why funky French isn't too bad.

Also, I'm lazy.

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[info]t_boy
2006-11-29 04:09 am UTC (link)
Er, I mean, "I don't see why funky French is too bad."

I have this problem with pronouns. And negatives. And distractions.

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[info]mistal
2006-11-29 04:23 am UTC (link)
Also, I'm lazy

Good reasons. Laziness if the best reason of all.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 04:12 am UTC (link)
Nah, that would translate to "the internet is a serious thing", and what we're going for here is "the internet is serious business".

I'd say (and, oh, how desperately you care), "L'internet: une affaire serieux".

...yeah. Shutting up now.

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[info]mistal
2006-11-29 04:20 am UTC (link)
Yeah, yours would sound better if one goes for "the internet is serious business". I didn't think of that when I saw it, my first thought was more like "that doesn't sound right..."

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 04:23 am UTC (link)
*nods* I felt that way when I first saw the icon, too. LOVE IT! ...but my grammar-dar is pinging.

But of course I got the gender wrong (thirteen years of bilingual education and I always got the gender wrong), so it'd be, "L'internet: une affaire serieuse."

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[info]mistal
2006-11-29 04:30 am UTC (link)
my grammar-dar is pinging.

So is mine. I rarely see French here, so when there's some I get all excited.

thirteen years of bilingual education and I always got the gender wrong

You're not alone, when I went to school 3/4 of the student got it wrong, and the 1/4 that didn't was because we were French and it came naturally.

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[info]kittenmommy
2006-11-29 07:53 am UTC (link)
La francais et une affaire serieux.

And I probably got a bunch of stuff wrong (grammar, gender, etc.) because it's been a million years since I took French.

Kittenmommy.

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[info]teruhiko
2006-11-29 09:57 am UTC (link)
Yay, a Safari version of the 'Serious Business' internet browser icon thingy!

Ahem, that is all.

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[info]kittenmommy
2006-11-29 11:58 am UTC (link)

Yay, a Safari version of the 'Serious Business' internet browser icon thingy!

Ahem, that is all.

Yeah... I figured, why should Windows users have all the fun? ;)

Kittenmommy.

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[info]sabinelagrande
2006-11-29 10:43 am UTC (link)
"L'internet, c'est une affaire serieux" would be the most "French" way to say it, without losing impact for English speakers.

But I've been doing Spanish homework (staring the cast of Casa, D.M.) all week, so don't trust it.

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[info]smo
2006-11-30 01:47 am UTC (link)
"Serieuse."

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[info]sabinelagrande
2006-11-30 03:13 am UTC (link)
Aha, you're right. Stupid agreement.

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[info]smo
2006-11-30 03:54 am UTC (link)
Heh. No worries.

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[info]t_boy
2006-11-29 02:38 pm UTC (link)
See? That is cool. Because it has an 'x'.

Sadly not cool enough to pierce my armor of ennui.

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[info]kijikun
2006-11-29 04:06 am UTC (link)
*looks around for the 5th Doctor*

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[info]puipui
2006-11-29 05:33 am UTC (link)
Too bad he never traveled with Ace. The world could use some cricket balls filled with Nitro 9.

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[info]kijikun
2006-11-29 05:59 am UTC (link)
Someone needs to write that story.

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[info]kittenmommy
2006-11-29 07:50 am UTC (link)

I've no doubt that someone somewhere has. And wouldn't it be wonderful if someone else gave us a link to it? ;)

Kittenmommy.

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[info]shadowkitty
2006-11-29 01:27 pm UTC (link)
The only story I've seen with Five & Ace doesn't involve cricket.

But it does involve balls.

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[info]whimsy_chan
2006-11-29 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Lawl. I was just thinking that.

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[info]puipui
2006-11-29 07:45 pm UTC (link)
OMG LINK PLZ

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[info]shadowkitty
2006-11-29 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Triangle. This is it, I think. It's pretty famous so you might have already read it.

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[info]napalmnacey
2006-11-29 09:08 am UTC (link)
Don't worry, Sajid. Most sane Australians ignore those wankers too.

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[info]aerobot
2006-11-29 12:19 pm UTC (link)
Sure, there are idiots in our society who harbour prejudices, but they are in the overwhelming minority!

... Right.

So we have illegal immigrants in unfair detention, the Cronulla riots, politicians arguing over the 'Aboriginal problem', people complaining about mixed-hertiage people flying other countries' flags at sports, health and economic problems in Aboriginal society, a bill trying to install a 'test' for immigrants to pass, people believing that the 'Stolen Generation' was justified/dramatized/made up, White Pride recruitment flyers, not to mention the hundreds of personal accounts of racism ... but they're a OVERWHELMING minority.

Sure. Whatever.

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[info]hallidae
2006-11-29 07:55 pm UTC (link)
::googles Stolen Generation:: ...Holy shit. That gives me bad mental images of Lebensborn.

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[info]aerobot
2006-11-30 09:45 am UTC (link)
Tell me about it. When I was at school, we had a lecture from a Aboriginal man who was stolen from his parents. He hadn't seen his parents since he was little, and he could hardly remember anything about them. He doesn't know where they are, where to find them, or even if they're still alive. And he said he'd probably die before he ever knew. Just thinking about that breaks my heart.

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[info]aerobot
2006-11-30 09:48 am UTC (link)
Sorry to double post, but there's also a good movie about it, the Rabbit-Proof Fence, based on a true story.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-30 02:02 am UTC (link)
*cries*
Dear Australia, wtf? Why are we in this handbasket, and where are we going? :(

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-30 06:48 am UTC (link)
People are actually trying to say that the Stolen Generation didn't happen? WTF is wrong with them?

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[info]aerobot
2006-11-30 09:38 am UTC (link)
I am completely serious. They think that the 'Stolen Generation' was merely the government taking away abused children, like the Child Protection Service we have today. They didn't target Aboriginals specifically for their race and those children were all being abused, so there's no such thing as a 'Stolen Generation'!

Really. Someone said this to my face.

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